Sorry, your guy might have connected with the boot, but the offence was a high foot, dangerous play. The referee was wrong and I agree it was wrong earlier in the game too.
But the rule is it's only an indirect free kick if he doesn't touch the player. If not it's a foul not dangerous play
Not sure what the problem is... Ball comes in Kos touches the ball with his head around chest height and then the defender MISSES the ball and connects with Kos face.
Clearest pen and foul ever, also abit rich spurs complain about pens when your players go down quicker than cheap hookers in the box.
It was a pen though and was before. High foot against Kos.
Justice served
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No that is where you are wrong, a high boot is dangerous play even if there is contact with another player. There is nothing in the Laws of the game that say otherwise, unless of course you can show me where it differentiates.
It is interpretation purely as a high foot and NOT an attempt to kick an opponent.
Now if they had been facing each other then it could be viewed in a different light.
Your rule seems to allow any time a player ducks for the ball they are free game to be punted in the head
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 2 minutes ago
But the rule is it's only an indirect free kick if he doesn't touch the player. If not it's a foul not dangerous play
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There no rules, only 17 Laws in football.
It doesn't matter if there is contact, the offence is still dangerous play.
But there was contact so its a foul and pen....
Actually Sir Digby, it is dangerous play if a player ducks his head down too low
Suggest you read up on the `Laws of the game!
But there was contact so its a foul and pen....
Incorrect, the contact is secondary to the offence, the offence was dangerous play, a high foot, or as I believe a low head!
Incorrect, the contact is secondary to the offence, the offence was dangerous play, a high foot, or as I believe a low head!
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That doesnt matter though. Kos touched the ball first the Burnely players missed it and connected with his head causing him to go down.. Replace head with foot and its still a penalty.
Direct free kick offences Edit
A direct free kick is awarded when a player commits any of the following in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
Kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
(Deleted these other ones)
Indirect free kick offences Edit
Fouls punishable by an indirect free kick are:
When a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area:
controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession
touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from his possession and before it has touched another player
touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate (the back-pass rule)
touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
When any player in the opinion of the referee:
plays in a dangerous manner
impedes the progress of an opponent
prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands
commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which play is stopped to caution or send off a player[1]:37
Pretty sure he kicked him
If Kos hadnt have ducked and the ball his his chest then the burnely played booted him in the chest it still would have been a penalty
Sorry, I was a Senior Class 1 referee for over 9 years, and as I have said both players could have been penalised. Koscielny for dangerous play in ducking his head down and the Burnley lad for a high boot. The contact as I said was secondary to the actual offence.
It was a penalty. But shouldn't have been because he was offside.
Koscielny for dangerous play in ducking his head down
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Oh my days GG
You have to be on the wind up here...
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It was a penalty. But shouldn't have been because he was offside.
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Aye, but if you play that game then you have to go back to the first ref error and discount everything after it!!
Koscienly bends down and puts his head into the boot of an opponent to initiate minimal contact = penalty.
Kyle Walker almost has his head removed by a head high boot from a dangerously high tackle = no punishment.
If Kos hadnt have ducked and the ball his his chest then the burnely played booted him in the chest it still would have been a penalty
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Now you are trying to shift the emphasis, if is a big word and often used in situations like this.
The Laws can be confusing at times, but it is clear here, a high foot or boot is dangerous play punished by an indirect free kick.
From my perspective as an ex referee, it should be a direct kick
Bet your games were fun when people lent forward to head the ball and we're free game for a sweet chin music
Koscielny headbutted the boot
What was the first ref error?
The ref did nothing wrong for the pen. It was a foul, he got kicked in the face. The lino not flagging before that was the issue.
clear here, a high foot or boot is dangerous play
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If it doesn't make contact.
Dangerous play is when there isn't contact
Playing in a dangerous manner is defined as any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player himself). It is committed with an opponent nearby and prevents the opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
What was the first ref error?
The ref did nothing wrong for the pen. It was a foul, he got kicked in the face. The lino not flagging before that was the issue.
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Dunno, probably a wrong offside or something. The first big error was the Mustafi penalty.
Koscielny for dangerous play in ducking his head down
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Oh my days GG
You have to be on the wind up here...
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Not all DJM, it can be categorised as dangerous play. The player ducking his head down is himself creating a dangerous situation. All covered by the Laws of Football.
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posted on 22/1/17
Sorry, your guy might have connected with the boot, but the offence was a high foot, dangerous play. The referee was wrong and I agree it was wrong earlier in the game too.
posted on 22/1/17
But the rule is it's only an indirect free kick if he doesn't touch the player. If not it's a foul not dangerous play
posted on 22/1/17
Not sure what the problem is... Ball comes in Kos touches the ball with his head around chest height and then the defender MISSES the ball and connects with Kos face.
Clearest pen and foul ever, also abit rich spurs complain about pens when your players go down quicker than cheap hookers in the box.
posted on 22/1/17
It was a pen though and was before. High foot against Kos.
Justice served
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No that is where you are wrong, a high boot is dangerous play even if there is contact with another player. There is nothing in the Laws of the game that say otherwise, unless of course you can show me where it differentiates.
It is interpretation purely as a high foot and NOT an attempt to kick an opponent.
Now if they had been facing each other then it could be viewed in a different light.
posted on 22/1/17
Your rule seems to allow any time a player ducks for the ball they are free game to be punted in the head
posted on 22/1/17
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 2 minutes ago
But the rule is it's only an indirect free kick if he doesn't touch the player. If not it's a foul not dangerous play
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There no rules, only 17 Laws in football.
It doesn't matter if there is contact, the offence is still dangerous play.
posted on 22/1/17
But there was contact so its a foul and pen....
posted on 22/1/17
Actually Sir Digby, it is dangerous play if a player ducks his head down too low
Suggest you read up on the `Laws of the game!
posted on 22/1/17
But there was contact so its a foul and pen....
Incorrect, the contact is secondary to the offence, the offence was dangerous play, a high foot, or as I believe a low head!
posted on 22/1/17
Incorrect, the contact is secondary to the offence, the offence was dangerous play, a high foot, or as I believe a low head!
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That doesnt matter though. Kos touched the ball first the Burnely players missed it and connected with his head causing him to go down.. Replace head with foot and its still a penalty.
posted on 22/1/17
Direct free kick offences Edit
A direct free kick is awarded when a player commits any of the following in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
Kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
(Deleted these other ones)
Indirect free kick offences Edit
Fouls punishable by an indirect free kick are:
When a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area:
controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession
touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from his possession and before it has touched another player
touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate (the back-pass rule)
touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
When any player in the opinion of the referee:
plays in a dangerous manner
impedes the progress of an opponent
prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands
commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which play is stopped to caution or send off a player[1]:37
Pretty sure he kicked him
posted on 22/1/17
If Kos hadnt have ducked and the ball his his chest then the burnely played booted him in the chest it still would have been a penalty
posted on 22/1/17
Sorry, I was a Senior Class 1 referee for over 9 years, and as I have said both players could have been penalised. Koscielny for dangerous play in ducking his head down and the Burnley lad for a high boot. The contact as I said was secondary to the actual offence.
posted on 22/1/17
It was a penalty. But shouldn't have been because he was offside.
posted on 22/1/17
Koscielny for dangerous play in ducking his head down
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Oh my days GG
You have to be on the wind up here...
posted on 22/1/17
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It was a penalty. But shouldn't have been because he was offside.
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Aye, but if you play that game then you have to go back to the first ref error and discount everything after it!!
posted on 22/1/17
Koscienly bends down and puts his head into the boot of an opponent to initiate minimal contact = penalty.
Kyle Walker almost has his head removed by a head high boot from a dangerously high tackle = no punishment.
posted on 22/1/17
If Kos hadnt have ducked and the ball his his chest then the burnely played booted him in the chest it still would have been a penalty
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Now you are trying to shift the emphasis, if is a big word and often used in situations like this.
The Laws can be confusing at times, but it is clear here, a high foot or boot is dangerous play punished by an indirect free kick.
From my perspective as an ex referee, it should be a direct kick
posted on 22/1/17
Bet your games were fun when people lent forward to head the ball and we're free game for a sweet chin music
posted on 22/1/17
Koscielny headbutted the boot
posted on 22/1/17
What was the first ref error?
The ref did nothing wrong for the pen. It was a foul, he got kicked in the face. The lino not flagging before that was the issue.
posted on 22/1/17
clear here, a high foot or boot is dangerous play
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If it doesn't make contact.
Dangerous play is when there isn't contact
posted on 22/1/17
Playing in a dangerous manner is defined as any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player himself). It is committed with an opponent nearby and prevents the opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury
posted on 22/1/17
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
What was the first ref error?
The ref did nothing wrong for the pen. It was a foul, he got kicked in the face. The lino not flagging before that was the issue.
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Dunno, probably a wrong offside or something. The first big error was the Mustafi penalty.
posted on 22/1/17
Koscielny for dangerous play in ducking his head down
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Oh my days GG
You have to be on the wind up here...
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Not all DJM, it can be categorised as dangerous play. The player ducking his head down is himself creating a dangerous situation. All covered by the Laws of Football.
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