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posted on 5/3/17

These sum up my thoughts..

"Personally I think Haye was injured but couldn't pull out again (wouldn't that be a 4th time?), as it would be the end of him especially with the Hearn monopoly.

He thought he could manage it and get through the fight to set up a AJ fight later in the year where he'd have 6 months rest/repair time to get ready for that.

He was in the ring pre-fight testing it out which he never usually does - I wonder if he was testing the ankle on the canvas and how it felt...trying to do it with as few people there as possible.

His foot then gave out on him in the 6th due to it being damaged already, hence when it totally ruptured you could see why it caused him such distress.

As with most people the initial pain was crippling and he was all over the place. Strangely as we all seem to do, within a few minutes adrenaline had kicked in as well as him being able to somehow sustain the pain (it's why some sportsmen have played on with broken legs etc and don't notice)...

It appears his biggest weakness (everyone has one!) is that his body just can't cope with the wear and tear of boxing and is giving out on him. A shame really as for me he should have had enough to beat Bellew and I'd rather have seen Haye v AJ in a British Super fight.

Can't take it away from Bellew though, he wasn't to know these issues, boxed well in rounds 1-3 where he defended and moved well, he then took the shots when Haye found range in 4-5, tnen got the opponent out of there in bizarre circumstances and has etched his name in history."

posted on 5/3/17

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posted on 5/3/17

Haye is a fool, too damn vain, fat helps prevent injuries.

Too worried about his six pack.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 5/3/17

Mr C yup that sounds about right

posted on 5/3/17

One thing I've found annoying though is Sky just completely rewriting the fight and ignoring the leg/ankle injury that David suffered.Barely any mention has been made of it, yet with Brook fought GGG, we couldnt hear enough of the broken eye socket.

David had to play it real smart at the end and not make any mention of it in the post fight interview but he overcooked the request for a rematch though to the point where it became embarassing to see him begging like that.

posted on 5/3/17

That's cos Bellew is in a position to bring in more big money fights for sky. Sport media is no different to mainland media.

posted on 5/3/17

I was looking at the footwear Haye used in the fight and they didn't appear to have much ankle support. They almost looked like low trainers with a little bit of that wet suit type material a few inches up the ankle. Contrast that with Bellew in a more traditional type.

I'm sure he takes lots of advice on these matters and perhaps his were some hi-tech wizardry but perhaps he just used what he feels more familiar with in favour of something with more support.

In the slow motion replay his ankle really buckles, I can't help think more appropriate footwear could've lessened that chance.

I can't believe people are giving credit for Haye saying Bellew won fair and square and not making a meal of his injury. Given his whinging about his toe and the fact this injury was so clear he didn't really need to say anything on this occasion. I'm very cynical of Haye and everything he says, self preservation at all times.

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comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 5/3/17

One thing I've found annoying though is Sky just completely rewriting the fight and ignoring the leg/ankle injury that David suffered.Barely any mention has been made of it
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It's very weird Mr C and it's not just Sky either. I don't understand it at all. It's like they're trying to completely play the injury down because it gets in the way of this shock upset angle they seem so desperate to go with.

If Bellew hadn't been able to stop Haye under those circumstances then that in itself would have been a huge upset. I've never seen anyone as physically injured in a boxing ring as Haye was last night and still carry on fighting.

Also the idea that the WBC Champion of the world (albeit at cruiser) beating a virtual cripple for six rounds who also hadn't fought a competitive fight in five years is somehow some massive shock upset is quite absurd when you break it down.

Had Bellew beaten Haye in anything even remotely resembling normal circumstances then he'd deserve all the credit in the world but he simply didn't and that's no fault of Bellew's either.

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They're a pair of clowns Smith and Nelson

They sacked Glenn McCrory because he didn't toe the party line.

posted on 5/3/17

If Fury does come back he has to have a tune-up fight first, that's the problem most boxers make, so you can't slate Haye for fighting two bums when he'd been out so long. You need it to get your timing right. Still maintain Hatton would have won his comeback fight if he'd just had a tune up fight before hand, as he's timing with his punches was so off, pride just got in the way.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 6/3/17

I actually think that BBC's coverage of events has been even more one-sided than Sky.

Sky at least had the decency to release the entire statement from Haye's camp after the operation on his achilles which read:

"David underwent surgery to his right Achilles this afternoon, after completely rupturing the tendon during Saturday night's fight with Tony Bellew.

http://www.skysports.com/haye-vs-bellew/news/34770/10791305/1

The BBC article by comparison didn't even want to include that bit and just wanted to skip to Bellew supposedly breaking his hand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/39171240

It seems that the less said about an actual ruptured achilles tendon the better because the reality is that you can't even walk on a ruptured achilles tendon let alone fight in a professional boxing contest.

posted on 6/3/17

Superb I agree. The coverage has been weird.

I would like to see a rematch though.

I thought David Haye would be as good as he was saying he was. In reality his body broke down in camp and he went straight for the knockout as soon as the first bell rang. His timing was way off though. He looked a mess.

Adam Booth was talking to five live and he said that he could tell straight away that David hasn't done any sparring for a long time because his timing was way off and Booth knows Haye more than anyone in that arena on Saturday.

Haye just couldn't pull out of this fight. He had no alternative.

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Casual mess.

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I was there in the barclays arena.

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comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 6/3/17

Adam Booth was talking to five live and he said that he could tell straight away that David hasn't done any sparring for a long time because his timing was way off and Booth knows Haye more than anyone in that arena on Saturday.
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Mr C yeah his timing was certainly out and if that's true about no sparring then it's highly unusual and makes me doubt if we'll even see Haye fight again in truth.

I'm not sure we'll see a Bellew rematch, they were so pally together at the end it would be a difficult sell that fight now. If Haye is able to come back from this latest injury then he'll probably have to aim at fighting someone like Whyte or Briggs. Maybe even a Chisora rematch.

posted on 6/3/17

Looks like Whyte has started a war of words with Bellew. No doubt Hearn has something to with this. Next fight maybe as there is no chance Bellew will get any of the current world champs.

Another domestic dust up with the phoney wars.

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