comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 9 minutes ago
🚨 | NEW: Tory MP Owen Paterson has stated he would ‘not hesitate’ to take £100,000 from two companies and lobby on behalf of them again
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Chris Bryant said as much during his captivating speech this afternoon.
Paterson told the committee he wouldn't hesitate to do it again. Including using his constituency office, (which he did on 16 separate occasions) again for hosting meetings with Randox and Lynn's Foods, a breach of MP's conduct
https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/be47898e-2937-495e-a050-1cb40148deeb?in=15:15:30
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Probably thinks he’s being clever saying that as in “I did nothing wrong so of course I’d do it again” and that saying he wouldn’t do it again would be admitting he was wrong.
Should have just not said anything…basic level PR
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'm all for paying MPs performance related pay. Most of them would be on minimum wage. Then we'd quickly learn whether £9.50 per hour is enough.
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Lol
The obvious problem with this is a. It won’t ever be brought in and b. Someone has to set the targets etc so it will probably never happen.
But paying more could happen.
“Earn £200k instead of £60k? Yar I’ll vote for that sure”
“Hi yes your services are no longer required as we have someone competent now”
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It wouldn't work like that though. We'd just end up paying the same incompetent fools more.
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At first maybe but over time more talent would get into it. Ask any barrister you know if they’d recommend getting into it these days or not. I’d bet that most wouldn’t recommend it as much as in previous years. So you take a certain percentage of those types of candidates and present them with a career in politics that can pay well even outside of the top top positions then some would go for it, then the standards would raise and so on.
The fact that the PM is paid £160k is a bit of a joke, it’s a ridiculously big job, very few CEO positions are bigger or more complex yet they’re paid a fortune.
You get what you pay for comes to mind.
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The selection processes would still be the same. The parties would still select the same types of people. Until that changes and the system changes, we will still end up with the same types of people becoming MPs.
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Yeah was mentioned earlier, another hurdle. It’s all well and good having 3 geniuses on offer but if they’re up against matey matey school friend ties to businesses etc then they’ll never get in.
But isn’t it only the Conservatives that are like that? Nothing stopping labour or any other party adopting it and getting talent in who would then certainly destroy a standard bunch of Conservative politicians, certainly the current bunch.
Just picture a level of quality that would make Starmer look like an actual moron (which he obviously isn’t) going up against any of the current Conservatives; they’d run rings around them without breaking a sweat. It would take 10-20 years to have an effect but I think it could work.
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Quarter of MPs calling to replace sleaze watchdog have been punished by it
59 MPs trying to prevent Owen Paterson suspension include MP who didn’t declare several mansions, and one asked questions after a £10,000 donation
https://twitter.com/peterkgeoghegan/status/1455921445612277762?s=21
Shameful. This country really is broken.
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Facking corrupt sham of a filthy scuuumshack
The Commons today has exposed itself as an absolute disgrace, in contempt of the general public, and existing to protect its own and the further enrichment of its already privileged members.
Facking shame. Facking shame. Absolute scuuumbags.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'm all for paying MPs performance related pay. Most of them would be on minimum wage. Then we'd quickly learn whether £9.50 per hour is enough.
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Lol
The obvious problem with this is a. It won’t ever be brought in and b. Someone has to set the targets etc so it will probably never happen.
But paying more could happen.
“Earn £200k instead of £60k? Yar I’ll vote for that sure”
“Hi yes your services are no longer required as we have someone competent now”
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It wouldn't work like that though. We'd just end up paying the same incompetent fools more.
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At first maybe but over time more talent would get into it. Ask any barrister you know if they’d recommend getting into it these days or not. I’d bet that most wouldn’t recommend it as much as in previous years. So you take a certain percentage of those types of candidates and present them with a career in politics that can pay well even outside of the top top positions then some would go for it, then the standards would raise and so on.
The fact that the PM is paid £160k is a bit of a joke, it’s a ridiculously big job, very few CEO positions are bigger or more complex yet they’re paid a fortune.
You get what you pay for comes to mind.
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The selection processes would still be the same. The parties would still select the same types of people. Until that changes and the system changes, we will still end up with the same types of people becoming MPs.
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The Greeks had it right: people should be randomly selected from the general populous to oversee - effectively to question and check - the technocrats who are rightly best placed to govern the areas they are best educated, qualified and experienced to direct.
@washingtonpost
‘In 2018, the richest 400 Americans paid a lower overall tax rate than the bottom 50%’
#wealthcreators
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
@washingtonpost
‘In 2018, the richest 400 Americans paid a lower overall tax rate than the bottom 50%’
#wealthcreators
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I believe the nominal federal tax rate is something like 14% and as one example: Elon Musk paid (off the top of my head) 3/4%
And he's hardly unique, the funniest part for me is how they always gaslight everyone else, it's not their fault they don't pay, they have more to give and would do so willingly if it wasn't going to be "wasted".
Recently when challenged to contribute to help solve world hunger Musk laid out terms such as open source accounting for him to contribute anything towards the idea, saying that he's much better at spending the money for humanity than governing bodies. Which is probably why he's amassed so much personal wealth.
Its just an out so people can argue in his behalf that's he's agreed to it but the other side were being unreasonable, I believe he even posted something a while back saying he wouldn't waste his money by giving it to the government, and would instead "use it to get humanity to mars"
Yet those federal taxes he and his mates avoid would probably go a long way towards making sure this planet remains livable.
Tax the rich ffs
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
🚨 | NEW: Tory MP Owen Paterson has stated he would ‘not hesitate’ to take £100,000 from two companies and lobby on behalf of them again
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Of course he wouldn't. He's corrupt and allowed to get away with it.
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They're shameless.
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
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I'm sure their poll ratings will go up this week though.
They will obv lose support over this but it will probably bounce back up next week with looming war with France and the bunny huggers
Just been reading an opinion piece in the Guardian about all this. Labour’s shadow leader of the Commons, is called Thangam Debbonaire,
What an excellent name
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
Just been reading an opinion piece in the Guardian about all this. Labour’s shadow leader of the Commons, is called Thangam Debbonaire,
What an excellent name
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Thangam Style should become a thing.
💥@maitlis quotes Dominic Grieve “it cannot escape notice that the P.M. is currently the subject of an investigation for failure to declare his interest by that same Commissioner.
EM”Was this Boris Johnson getting in early because he could see where this trail was going?”💥 https://t.co/1jpFXaa4Yk
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 6 minutes ago
💥@maitlis quotes Dominic Grieve “it cannot escape notice that the P.M. is currently the subject of an investigation for failure to declare his interest by that same Commissioner.
EM”Was this Boris Johnson getting in early because he could see where this trail was going?”💥 https://t.co/1jpFXaa4Yk
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That should be headline news if true. Investigative reporters should be listing all the MPs that are under investigation.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 8 minutes ago
💥@maitlis quotes Dominic Grieve “it cannot escape notice that the P.M. is currently the subject of an investigation for failure to declare his interest by that same Commissioner.
EM”Was this Boris Johnson getting in early because he could see where this trail was going?”💥 https://t.co/1jpFXaa4Yk
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Prob a fair few MPs under investigation thinking about it
This is indefensible stuff.
Brexit voters wanted to give these guys more power into their few greedy hands.
How can you have a hope of an egalitarian society when you have lords, knights and a monarchy that and a political body that just shapes laws and conventions to their own ends.
This is a FACKING disgrace.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
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I'm sure their poll ratings will go up this week though.
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Probably it’ll be spun as the poor tories standing up for the downtrodden MP/lobbyist against the evil communists who seek him from doing his good works.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1456117636299952128
With any luck the real one will follow him in there soon enough.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1455992451924168715/photo/1
Lib Dem’s looking to capitalise on this, I can see the media quickly moving away from the story to protect their beloveds
https://mobile.twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1456171370971340807/photo/1
The Mail need to edit their headline and front page. Shameless Tory MP’s
Morning campers.
Biden blames trump voters, schools, jobs and petrol prices for the Virginia result, lmao....he should join the tories with that patter.
After having a "sleepoff" with bojo at Coq26, the world is witnessing truly funny wonders from western leaders.
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
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I'm sure their poll ratings will go up this week though.
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Probably it’ll be spun as the poor tories standing up for the downtrodden MP/lobbyist against the evil communists who seek him from doing his good works.
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Russia and China?
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1455992451924168715/photo/1
Lib Dem’s looking to capitalise on this, I can see the media quickly moving away from the story to protect their beloveds
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https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1456025968175423490?t=G_qR_wfr0o5wora38czKfA&s=19
🤔
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posted on 3/11/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 9 minutes ago
🚨 | NEW: Tory MP Owen Paterson has stated he would ‘not hesitate’ to take £100,000 from two companies and lobby on behalf of them again
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bryant said as much during his captivating speech this afternoon.
Paterson told the committee he wouldn't hesitate to do it again. Including using his constituency office, (which he did on 16 separate occasions) again for hosting meetings with Randox and Lynn's Foods, a breach of MP's conduct
https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/be47898e-2937-495e-a050-1cb40148deeb?in=15:15:30
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Probably thinks he’s being clever saying that as in “I did nothing wrong so of course I’d do it again” and that saying he wouldn’t do it again would be admitting he was wrong.
Should have just not said anything…basic level PR
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'm all for paying MPs performance related pay. Most of them would be on minimum wage. Then we'd quickly learn whether £9.50 per hour is enough.
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Lol
The obvious problem with this is a. It won’t ever be brought in and b. Someone has to set the targets etc so it will probably never happen.
But paying more could happen.
“Earn £200k instead of £60k? Yar I’ll vote for that sure”
“Hi yes your services are no longer required as we have someone competent now”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wouldn't work like that though. We'd just end up paying the same incompetent fools more.
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At first maybe but over time more talent would get into it. Ask any barrister you know if they’d recommend getting into it these days or not. I’d bet that most wouldn’t recommend it as much as in previous years. So you take a certain percentage of those types of candidates and present them with a career in politics that can pay well even outside of the top top positions then some would go for it, then the standards would raise and so on.
The fact that the PM is paid £160k is a bit of a joke, it’s a ridiculously big job, very few CEO positions are bigger or more complex yet they’re paid a fortune.
You get what you pay for comes to mind.
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The selection processes would still be the same. The parties would still select the same types of people. Until that changes and the system changes, we will still end up with the same types of people becoming MPs.
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Yeah was mentioned earlier, another hurdle. It’s all well and good having 3 geniuses on offer but if they’re up against matey matey school friend ties to businesses etc then they’ll never get in.
But isn’t it only the Conservatives that are like that? Nothing stopping labour or any other party adopting it and getting talent in who would then certainly destroy a standard bunch of Conservative politicians, certainly the current bunch.
Just picture a level of quality that would make Starmer look like an actual moron (which he obviously isn’t) going up against any of the current Conservatives; they’d run rings around them without breaking a sweat. It would take 10-20 years to have an effect but I think it could work.
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Quarter of MPs calling to replace sleaze watchdog have been punished by it
59 MPs trying to prevent Owen Paterson suspension include MP who didn’t declare several mansions, and one asked questions after a £10,000 donation
https://twitter.com/peterkgeoghegan/status/1455921445612277762?s=21
Shameful. This country really is broken.
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Facking corrupt sham of a filthy scuuumshack
posted on 4/11/21
The Commons today has exposed itself as an absolute disgrace, in contempt of the general public, and existing to protect its own and the further enrichment of its already privileged members.
Facking shame. Facking shame. Absolute scuuumbags.
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'm all for paying MPs performance related pay. Most of them would be on minimum wage. Then we'd quickly learn whether £9.50 per hour is enough.
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Lol
The obvious problem with this is a. It won’t ever be brought in and b. Someone has to set the targets etc so it will probably never happen.
But paying more could happen.
“Earn £200k instead of £60k? Yar I’ll vote for that sure”
“Hi yes your services are no longer required as we have someone competent now”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wouldn't work like that though. We'd just end up paying the same incompetent fools more.
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At first maybe but over time more talent would get into it. Ask any barrister you know if they’d recommend getting into it these days or not. I’d bet that most wouldn’t recommend it as much as in previous years. So you take a certain percentage of those types of candidates and present them with a career in politics that can pay well even outside of the top top positions then some would go for it, then the standards would raise and so on.
The fact that the PM is paid £160k is a bit of a joke, it’s a ridiculously big job, very few CEO positions are bigger or more complex yet they’re paid a fortune.
You get what you pay for comes to mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The selection processes would still be the same. The parties would still select the same types of people. Until that changes and the system changes, we will still end up with the same types of people becoming MPs.
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The Greeks had it right: people should be randomly selected from the general populous to oversee - effectively to question and check - the technocrats who are rightly best placed to govern the areas they are best educated, qualified and experienced to direct.
posted on 4/11/21
@washingtonpost
‘In 2018, the richest 400 Americans paid a lower overall tax rate than the bottom 50%’
#wealthcreators
posted on 4/11/21
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
@washingtonpost
‘In 2018, the richest 400 Americans paid a lower overall tax rate than the bottom 50%’
#wealthcreators
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I believe the nominal federal tax rate is something like 14% and as one example: Elon Musk paid (off the top of my head) 3/4%
And he's hardly unique, the funniest part for me is how they always gaslight everyone else, it's not their fault they don't pay, they have more to give and would do so willingly if it wasn't going to be "wasted".
Recently when challenged to contribute to help solve world hunger Musk laid out terms such as open source accounting for him to contribute anything towards the idea, saying that he's much better at spending the money for humanity than governing bodies. Which is probably why he's amassed so much personal wealth.
Its just an out so people can argue in his behalf that's he's agreed to it but the other side were being unreasonable, I believe he even posted something a while back saying he wouldn't waste his money by giving it to the government, and would instead "use it to get humanity to mars"
Yet those federal taxes he and his mates avoid would probably go a long way towards making sure this planet remains livable.
Tax the rich ffs
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
🚨 | NEW: Tory MP Owen Paterson has stated he would ‘not hesitate’ to take £100,000 from two companies and lobby on behalf of them again
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Of course he wouldn't. He's corrupt and allowed to get away with it.
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They're shameless.
posted on 4/11/21
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posted on 4/11/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
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I'm sure their poll ratings will go up this week though.
posted on 4/11/21
They will obv lose support over this but it will probably bounce back up next week with looming war with France and the bunny huggers
posted on 4/11/21
Just been reading an opinion piece in the Guardian about all this. Labour’s shadow leader of the Commons, is called Thangam Debbonaire,
What an excellent name
posted on 4/11/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
Just been reading an opinion piece in the Guardian about all this. Labour’s shadow leader of the Commons, is called Thangam Debbonaire,
What an excellent name
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Thangam Style should become a thing.
posted on 4/11/21
💥@maitlis quotes Dominic Grieve “it cannot escape notice that the P.M. is currently the subject of an investigation for failure to declare his interest by that same Commissioner.
EM”Was this Boris Johnson getting in early because he could see where this trail was going?”💥 https://t.co/1jpFXaa4Yk
posted on 4/11/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 6 minutes ago
💥@maitlis quotes Dominic Grieve “it cannot escape notice that the P.M. is currently the subject of an investigation for failure to declare his interest by that same Commissioner.
EM”Was this Boris Johnson getting in early because he could see where this trail was going?”💥 https://t.co/1jpFXaa4Yk
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That should be headline news if true. Investigative reporters should be listing all the MPs that are under investigation.
posted on 4/11/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 8 minutes ago
💥@maitlis quotes Dominic Grieve “it cannot escape notice that the P.M. is currently the subject of an investigation for failure to declare his interest by that same Commissioner.
EM”Was this Boris Johnson getting in early because he could see where this trail was going?”💥 https://t.co/1jpFXaa4Yk
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Prob a fair few MPs under investigation thinking about it
posted on 4/11/21
This is indefensible stuff.
Brexit voters wanted to give these guys more power into their few greedy hands.
How can you have a hope of an egalitarian society when you have lords, knights and a monarchy that and a political body that just shapes laws and conventions to their own ends.
This is a FACKING disgrace.
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sure their poll ratings will go up this week though.
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Probably it’ll be spun as the poor tories standing up for the downtrodden MP/lobbyist against the evil communists who seek him from doing his good works.
posted on 4/11/21
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1456117636299952128
With any luck the real one will follow him in there soon enough.
posted on 4/11/21
https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1455992451924168715/photo/1
Lib Dem’s looking to capitalise on this, I can see the media quickly moving away from the story to protect their beloveds
posted on 4/11/21
https://mobile.twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1456171370971340807/photo/1
The Mail need to edit their headline and front page. Shameless Tory MP’s
posted on 4/11/21
Morning campers.
Biden blames trump voters, schools, jobs and petrol prices for the Virginia result, lmao....he should join the tories with that patter.
After having a "sleepoff" with bojo at Coq26, the world is witnessing truly funny wonders from western leaders.
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about 2 hours ago
Owen Paterson, the ardent Brextremist and his chums, who never tired of telling the country that we cannot have another vote because we didnt like the outcome, just voted to change the result because they didn't like the outcome.
Sleazy, hypocritical, Conservatives.
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I'm sure their poll ratings will go up this week though.
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Probably it’ll be spun as the poor tories standing up for the downtrodden MP/lobbyist against the evil communists who seek him from doing his good works.
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Russia and China?
posted on 4/11/21
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1455992451924168715/photo/1
Lib Dem’s looking to capitalise on this, I can see the media quickly moving away from the story to protect their beloveds
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1456025968175423490?t=G_qR_wfr0o5wora38czKfA&s=19
🤔
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