🚨🚨🚨 | THERE ARE PHOTOS: There are photos of the Downing Street Christmas Party
Via @thetimes
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 40% (+3)
CON: 32% (-1)
LDM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 7% (=)
RFM: 7% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @YouGov, 9-10 Dec.
Changes w/ 8-9 Dec.
Tories have been consigned to the bin, the English have finally woken up and smelled the coffee
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 40% (+3)
CON: 32% (-1)
LDM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 7% (=)
RFM: 7% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @YouGov, 9-10 Dec.
Changes w/ 8-9 Dec.
Tories have been consigned to the bin, the English have finally woken up and smelled the coffee
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They'll change leader if this trend becomes long term... its why the tories are so successful
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
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Yeah and as BH said, it’s pretty hard to be completely original these days.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah and as BH said, it’s pretty hard to be completely original these days.
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It so is, mate.
Few of us left, tbh.
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 40% (+3)
CON: 32% (-1)
LDM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 7% (=)
RFM: 7% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @YouGov, 9-10 Dec.
Changes w/ 8-9 Dec.
Tories have been consigned to the bin, the English have finally woken up and smelled the coffee
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They'll change leader if this trend becomes long term... its why the tories are so successful
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very true, tories are ruthless as even the Iron Lady discovered...party before everything, and pun intended.
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 14 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 12 minutes ago
Oh wow wild black hawk appears
You doing ok?
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I actually commented on the thread last week!
And yes, I am good thank you! Just a little fed up with restrictions!
I have read that you are in Mexico? How have things been for you?
Also, last year you introduced me to HasanAbi through the thread. Been watching a little bit of his stuff from time to time. He is quite entertaining!
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BH, have you seen Benji Shapiro's rant against HasanAbi? Worth a listen.
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I have not!
As I have never heard him say anything worth listening to!
And thats not because he is conservative - there are plenty of people I dislike who are still quite fine engage with (like for example, JP).
Still, it might be interesting looking up whatever nonsense he has said now lol!
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Oi!
I remember you (rather accurately) characterising me to others as a classic liberal like Shapiro!
He and others similar lose on various topics; mostly anti-vax (can’t remember if he is, don’t think he is), abortion and gun rights.
Economics and pushing back against the identity politics items I’m generally in agreement with him/others. Most of their thoughts that they espouse generally come from Thomas Sowell / Walter E Williams types.
I can appreciate that Shapiro is an annoying character but he’s no shambles, despite the small handful of examples that people can quote from the internet (vaginosis etc).
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I would not describe yourself as similar to Shapiro, at least not in the ways which matter to me.
Conservative (or classically liberal) yes; but you are much more interesting as an individual.
The problem with Shapiro is that he is at his core a sophist. His arguments are not made in good faith like yourself.
At his core he is most interested in winning the debate, rather than examining what is true or false. I would consider yourself (and most others) to be interested in what you find to be true.
He can be considered as a great public speaker. However, he is not someone with any meaningful or interesting ideas of his own.
You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek.
Which isn't surprising as Hayek is a massively influential figure. Even respected by many progressive economists.
Thats not to say everyone has to provide an original thought. They don't. However, I respect people who you can engage sincerely with you. Shapiro from what I can see, is simply unable to do this.
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Welcome back buddy and hope you are well.
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 12 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted about an hour ago
Shapiro is a brand, maybe not a total grifter but hot takes is integral to his income
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I liked his one on climate change, the one where he said something along the lines of "should sea levels rise and seafront properties become unliveable the owners can always just sell their homes"
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Exvept Marshall Islanders etc.
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reading up on Hayek, and he appears to be a bit like your goodself, mate, being mildly socialist until 23 and then espousing the freemarket capitalist analysis, viewing marxism as too rigid and unnattractive?
Hope we tank Leeds.
Regarding the Boris-tory party never ending saga of being just awful at running the uk, this current group really have sank to new depths, morally, personally and politically, and people have turned, imo.
No idea who would replace clown bojo from the present stock, as none combine competence, charisma and leadership traits, so if Starmer-Labour cannot win next time, we are doomed to degrees of chaos, rinse, repeat.
Meanwhile, the poor get poorer, hungry, jobless, homeless and so on.
Happy Christmas All, lol
🚨 | NEW: Parliament will get powers to override European judges on human rights under plans to be unveiled by Dominic Raab next week.
Via @Telegraph
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 35 minutes ago
🚨 | NEW: Parliament will get powers to override European judges on human rights under plans to be unveiled by Dominic Raab next week.
Via @Telegraph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I predict this will go well
Is this the same Human Rights bull thats roots date back to the English Bill of Rights from 1689?
I believe I've just crossed the floor.
Bladdy unions.
The state run liquor stores(SAQ) warehouse staff is on strike and membership has rejected an agreement in principal voted on thus week.
comment by 4zA - I took a look into the hate. It made me feel very up to date (U22472)
posted 29 seconds ago
outragius!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lefty basrirts, 4za, I tell you.
Its called crossing the floor in Canada too?
They’ve leaked pictures of the party last year
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-pictured-hosting-number-25675443
Not the party actually, the quiz night he was having with 70 other members of Downing Street. Let’s see if this is enough evidence for the Met.
So...
I've made it to 50, ya bassa!
Roger Daltrey summed it up but I'm so glad I ignored him!🍺
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 3 hours ago
Not the party actually, the quiz night he was having with 70 other members of Downing Street. Let’s see if this is enough evidence for the Met.
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I reckon legally it will come down to whether that was during paid hrs. I cant load the article did they have details?
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted about 7 hours ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 3 hours ago
Not the party actually, the quiz night he was having with 70 other members of Downing Street. Let’s see if this is enough evidence for the Met.
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I reckon legally it will come down to whether that was during paid hrs. I cant load the article did they have details?
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Apparently there were four teams of six people in the room and staff stayed and drank alcohol late into the evening. I think the Mirror article has said that a source has told them that staff came into Downing Street specifically for the quiz.
Official guidance at the time said:
"Although there are exemptions for work purposes, you must not have a work Christmas lunch or party, where that is a primarily social activity and is not otherwise permitted by the rules in your tier."
Still, at least Brexit's going well.
https://twitter.com/borisjohnson_mp/status/1469817132791865350?s=21
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posted on 11/12/21
🚨🚨🚨 | THERE ARE PHOTOS: There are photos of the Downing Street Christmas Party
Via @thetimes
posted on 11/12/21
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 40% (+3)
CON: 32% (-1)
LDM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 7% (=)
RFM: 7% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @YouGov, 9-10 Dec.
Changes w/ 8-9 Dec.
Tories have been consigned to the bin, the English have finally woken up and smelled the coffee
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 40% (+3)
CON: 32% (-1)
LDM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 7% (=)
RFM: 7% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @YouGov, 9-10 Dec.
Changes w/ 8-9 Dec.
Tories have been consigned to the bin, the English have finally woken up and smelled the coffee
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They'll change leader if this trend becomes long term... its why the tories are so successful
posted on 11/12/21
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah and as BH said, it’s pretty hard to be completely original these days.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah and as BH said, it’s pretty hard to be completely original these days.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It so is, mate.
Few of us left, tbh.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 40% (+3)
CON: 32% (-1)
LDM: 8% (-1)
GRN: 7% (=)
RFM: 7% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @YouGov, 9-10 Dec.
Changes w/ 8-9 Dec.
Tories have been consigned to the bin, the English have finally woken up and smelled the coffee
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They'll change leader if this trend becomes long term... its why the tories are so successful
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very true, tories are ruthless as even the Iron Lady discovered...party before everything, and pun intended.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 14 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 12 minutes ago
Oh wow wild black hawk appears
You doing ok?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I actually commented on the thread last week!
And yes, I am good thank you! Just a little fed up with restrictions!
I have read that you are in Mexico? How have things been for you?
Also, last year you introduced me to HasanAbi through the thread. Been watching a little bit of his stuff from time to time. He is quite entertaining!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BH, have you seen Benji Shapiro's rant against HasanAbi? Worth a listen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have not!
As I have never heard him say anything worth listening to!
And thats not because he is conservative - there are plenty of people I dislike who are still quite fine engage with (like for example, JP).
Still, it might be interesting looking up whatever nonsense he has said now lol!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oi!
I remember you (rather accurately) characterising me to others as a classic liberal like Shapiro!
He and others similar lose on various topics; mostly anti-vax (can’t remember if he is, don’t think he is), abortion and gun rights.
Economics and pushing back against the identity politics items I’m generally in agreement with him/others. Most of their thoughts that they espouse generally come from Thomas Sowell / Walter E Williams types.
I can appreciate that Shapiro is an annoying character but he’s no shambles, despite the small handful of examples that people can quote from the internet (vaginosis etc).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would not describe yourself as similar to Shapiro, at least not in the ways which matter to me.
Conservative (or classically liberal) yes; but you are much more interesting as an individual.
The problem with Shapiro is that he is at his core a sophist. His arguments are not made in good faith like yourself.
At his core he is most interested in winning the debate, rather than examining what is true or false. I would consider yourself (and most others) to be interested in what you find to be true.
He can be considered as a great public speaker. However, he is not someone with any meaningful or interesting ideas of his own.
You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek.
Which isn't surprising as Hayek is a massively influential figure. Even respected by many progressive economists.
Thats not to say everyone has to provide an original thought. They don't. However, I respect people who you can engage sincerely with you. Shapiro from what I can see, is simply unable to do this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome back buddy and hope you are well.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 12 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted about an hour ago
Shapiro is a brand, maybe not a total grifter but hot takes is integral to his income
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I liked his one on climate change, the one where he said something along the lines of "should sea levels rise and seafront properties become unliveable the owners can always just sell their homes"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exvept Marshall Islanders etc.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
"You rightly say he is inspired by Sowell. However, even someone well respected like Sowell, is from what I have seen, just recycled versions of stuff already said by Hayek."
To be fair to Sowell, he is the first to acknowledge the influence of Hayek and Friedman on his work, he sees himself as kind of continuing their tradition of thinking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reading up on Hayek, and he appears to be a bit like your goodself, mate, being mildly socialist until 23 and then espousing the freemarket capitalist analysis, viewing marxism as too rigid and unnattractive?
Hope we tank Leeds.
posted on 11/12/21
Regarding the Boris-tory party never ending saga of being just awful at running the uk, this current group really have sank to new depths, morally, personally and politically, and people have turned, imo.
No idea who would replace clown bojo from the present stock, as none combine competence, charisma and leadership traits, so if Starmer-Labour cannot win next time, we are doomed to degrees of chaos, rinse, repeat.
Meanwhile, the poor get poorer, hungry, jobless, homeless and so on.
Happy Christmas All, lol
posted on 11/12/21
🚨 | NEW: Parliament will get powers to override European judges on human rights under plans to be unveiled by Dominic Raab next week.
Via @Telegraph
posted on 11/12/21
Nice
posted on 11/12/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 35 minutes ago
🚨 | NEW: Parliament will get powers to override European judges on human rights under plans to be unveiled by Dominic Raab next week.
Via @Telegraph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I predict this will go well
posted on 11/12/21
Is this the same Human Rights bull thats roots date back to the English Bill of Rights from 1689?
posted on 11/12/21
I believe I've just crossed the floor.
Bladdy unions.
The state run liquor stores(SAQ) warehouse staff is on strike and membership has rejected an agreement in principal voted on thus week.
posted on 11/12/21
outragius!
posted on 11/12/21
comment by 4zA - I took a look into the hate. It made me feel very up to date (U22472)
posted 29 seconds ago
outragius!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lefty basrirts, 4za, I tell you.
posted on 11/12/21
Its called crossing the floor in Canada too?
posted on 11/12/21
They’ve leaked pictures of the party last year
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-pictured-hosting-number-25675443
posted on 11/12/21
Not the party actually, the quiz night he was having with 70 other members of Downing Street. Let’s see if this is enough evidence for the Met.
posted on 12/12/21
So...
I've made it to 50, ya bassa!
Roger Daltrey summed it up but I'm so glad I ignored him!🍺
posted on 12/12/21
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 3 hours ago
Not the party actually, the quiz night he was having with 70 other members of Downing Street. Let’s see if this is enough evidence for the Met.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I reckon legally it will come down to whether that was during paid hrs. I cant load the article did they have details?
posted on 12/12/21
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted about 7 hours ago
comment by Amado Carrillo Fuentes (U11781)
posted 3 hours ago
Not the party actually, the quiz night he was having with 70 other members of Downing Street. Let’s see if this is enough evidence for the Met.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I reckon legally it will come down to whether that was during paid hrs. I cant load the article did they have details?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently there were four teams of six people in the room and staff stayed and drank alcohol late into the evening. I think the Mirror article has said that a source has told them that staff came into Downing Street specifically for the quiz.
Official guidance at the time said:
"Although there are exemptions for work purposes, you must not have a work Christmas lunch or party, where that is a primarily social activity and is not otherwise permitted by the rules in your tier."
posted on 12/12/21
Still, at least Brexit's going well.
https://twitter.com/borisjohnson_mp/status/1469817132791865350?s=21
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