Rabb v Rayner at PMQ today 😳

Have a good wan folks 👍

Oh, and get well soon Insert.🙏

comment by Harry Ambrose (U11781)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
Georgia GOP Senate candidate Herschel Walker casts doubt on evolution: "At one time, science said man came from apes, did it not? ... If that is true, why are there still apes? Think about it.”

Fooook me
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Why do the Americans insist on promoting utter facking remedials to positions of influence?

What a monumentally thick

comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 43 minutes ago
Boris landing in Saudi days Ukraine will not be joining Nato anytime soon.

An American outfit polled NATO Membership among Ukrainians, and joining was not popular, but Zelensky and Boris were popular in the same polling, apparently.
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Ukraine joining NATO ‘anytime soon’ has never been on the cards.

It hasn’t been at any point since the Berlin Wall came down, wasn’t before the invasion, and won’t be when the Russians pack up and leave.

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Harry Ambrose (U11781)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
Georgia GOP Senate candidate Herschel Walker casts doubt on evolution: "At one time, science said man came from apes, did it not? ... If that is true, why are there still apes? Think about it.”

Fooook me
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Why do the Americans insist on promoting utter facking remedials to positions of influence?

What a monumentally thick
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"Think about it"

comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by 🇾🇪 peks - 1974 🇾🇪 Justice for Yemen (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/CursedFootball/status/1503857475887501312

hypocrisy of the highest order


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Morning peks.

The very fact the world cup is going to Qatar highlights hypocrisy in football at the highest ranks.

Just discovered the Saudi family who own Man City also own Sheffield Utd, while Bournemouth have a Russian owner, so they better not get promoted🤔
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morning TBAB

yes the filth runs deeeep

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is on her way home

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is on her way home
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Just saw that 👍

6 years it took, she can thank the Russians for her release.

This must mean we’ve also repaid our debt to the Persians from the Shah era.

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 43 minutes ago
Boris landing in Saudi days Ukraine will not be joining Nato anytime soon.

An American outfit polled NATO Membership among Ukrainians, and joining was not popular, but Zelensky and Boris were popular in the same polling, apparently.
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Ukraine joining NATO ‘anytime soon’ has never been on the cards.

It hasn’t been at any point since the Berlin Wall came down, wasn’t before the invasion, and won’t be when the Russians pack up and leave.
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No argument from me on that, Rosso.

Why do you or others think that Ukraine should not be in NATO or why they are not doing planning to or welcome.., as they seek to join the EU and Brussels seem to be ok with that going forward?

Does non NATO membership highlight the situation in Ukraine is more nuanced and complex than some think?

Peter Tatchell calling out Stop the war Corbynista far left for being Putin apologists, claiming anti-war protestors are anti-west.

Tatchell did highlight that the left in general do not back the Stop the War Corbyn analysis.

Peter also calling on billionares to pay more tax, as nobody needs 5-6 billion quid and calling out our sordid deals with Saudi.

Top bloke.

UK and America selling weapons to Saudi then sending money to build bombed Yemen schools..the western way.😰

comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 43 minutes ago
Boris landing in Saudi days Ukraine will not be joining Nato anytime soon.

An American outfit polled NATO Membership among Ukrainians, and joining was not popular, but Zelensky and Boris were popular in the same polling, apparently.
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Ukraine joining NATO ‘anytime soon’ has never been on the cards.

It hasn’t been at any point since the Berlin Wall came down, wasn’t before the invasion, and won’t be when the Russians pack up and leave.
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No argument from me on that, Rosso.

Why do you or others think that Ukraine should not be in NATO or why they are not doing planning to or welcome.., as they seek to join the EU and Brussels seem to be ok with that going forward?

Does non NATO membership highlight the situation in Ukraine is more nuanced and complex than some think?
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Not planning to join or welcome by NATO?

comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 43 minutes ago
Boris landing in Saudi days Ukraine will not be joining Nato anytime soon.

An American outfit polled NATO Membership among Ukrainians, and joining was not popular, but Zelensky and Boris were popular in the same polling, apparently.
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Ukraine joining NATO ‘anytime soon’ has never been on the cards.

It hasn’t been at any point since the Berlin Wall came down, wasn’t before the invasion, and won’t be when the Russians pack up and leave.
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No argument from me on that, Rosso.

Why do you or others think that Ukraine should not be in NATO or why they are not doing planning to or welcome.., as they seek to join the EU and Brussels seem to be ok with that going forward?

Does non NATO membership highlight the situation in Ukraine is more nuanced and complex than some think?
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France, Germany, UK and US have all at different points cast doubt on Ukraine joining or talked about a long road to accession.

Firstly, they don’t meet the accession criteria, and wouldn’t have done so for another decade or so, at least.

Secondly, I think the major powers were probably worried (to put it lightly) about what has just happened happening, and being obliged to intervene to defend Ukraine. Even if Putin negotiates, settling for the annexation of a land bridge between Crimea and Donbas, and the Donbas region, he won’t be done in the medium to long term with Ukraine. If a deal ceding some territory were to be signed, it’d be a nothing more than a temporary reprieve for Kiev whilst Putin remains in power.

As to EU membership, as John Simpson and others have pointed out in recent days, I think the EU, US and UK need to recognise that Putin is close to as concerned about EU membership for Ukraine as NATO membership.

He didn’t want to see the democratisation of Ukraine, and EU membership would help cement that. He doesn’t want to see a wealthier Ukraine than Russia, and EU membership would help cement and accelerate that. He didn’t want to see a free, liberal Ukraine… You get the picture. This hasn’t been about territory, ‘denazification’, or NATO for Putin; it has been about protecting his power and his wealth, and a free, open, liberal, wealthy Ukraine is a very significant and direct threat to that.

I think whatever might have been said in Brussels the last few days, there will be quiet conversations going on between the major powers about the (very real) dangers of fast-tracking Ukrainian membership.

comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
UK and America selling weapons to Saudi then sending money to build bombed Yemen schools..the western way.😰
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Yep, despicable behaviour

*fast tracking Ukrainian membership of the EU.

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 43 minutes ago
Boris landing in Saudi days Ukraine will not be joining Nato anytime soon.

An American outfit polled NATO Membership among Ukrainians, and joining was not popular, but Zelensky and Boris were popular in the same polling, apparently.
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Ukraine joining NATO ‘anytime soon’ has never been on the cards.

It hasn’t been at any point since the Berlin Wall came down, wasn’t before the invasion, and won’t be when the Russians pack up and leave.
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No argument from me on that, Rosso.

Why do you or others think that Ukraine should not be in NATO or why they are not doing planning to or welcome.., as they seek to join the EU and Brussels seem to be ok with that going forward?

Does non NATO membership highlight the situation in Ukraine is more nuanced and complex than some think?
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France, Germany, UK and US have all at different points cast doubt on Ukraine joining or talked about a long road to accession.

Firstly, they don’t meet the accession criteria, and wouldn’t have done so for another decade or so, at least.

Secondly, I think the major powers were probably worried (to put it lightly) about what has just happened happening, and being obliged to intervene to defend Ukraine. Even if Putin negotiates, settling for the annexation of a land bridge between Crimea and Donbas, and the Donbas region, he won’t be done in the medium to long term with Ukraine. If a deal ceding some territory were to be signed, it’d be a nothing more than a temporary reprieve for Kiev whilst Putin remains in power.

As to EU membership, as John Simpson and others have pointed out in recent days, I think the EU, US and UK need to recognise that Putin is close to as concerned about EU membership for Ukraine as NATO membership.

He didn’t want to see the democratisation of Ukraine, and EU membership would help cement that. He doesn’t want to see a wealthier Ukraine than Russia, and EU membership would help cement and accelerate that. He didn’t want to see a free, liberal Ukraine… You get the picture. This hasn’t been about territory, ‘denazification’, or NATO for Putin; it has been about protecting his power and his wealth, and a free, open, liberal, wealthy Ukraine is a very significant and direct threat to that.

I think whatever might have been said in Brussels the last few days, there will be quiet conversations going on between the major powers about the (very real) dangers of fast-tracking Ukrainian membership.
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Rosso

You're a mind reader ?

You seem to know , or think you know, alot about Putin's reasoning

Given situation in Ukraine, and dependent on how things pan out, i'd be surprised if Ukraine are able to gain EU ascension before 2030.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 15 minutes ago
Given situation in Ukraine, and dependent on how things pan out, i'd be surprised if Ukraine are able to gain EU ascension before 2030.
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I don’t see how it could possibly happen without tearing up Article 49.

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 15 minutes ago
Given situation in Ukraine, and dependent on how things pan out, i'd be surprised if Ukraine are able to gain EU ascension before 2030.
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I don’t see how it could possibly happen without tearing up Article 49.
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Is that unanimous approved by the council? Yeah, both Germany and Holland have already noted their reservations in regard to membership.

4 day paddy's weekend starts tomorrow

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 15 minutes ago
Given situation in Ukraine, and dependent on how things pan out, i'd be surprised if Ukraine are able to gain EU ascension before 2030.
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I don’t see how it could possibly happen without tearing up Article 49.
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Is that unanimous approved by the council? Yeah, both Germany and Holland have already noted their reservations in regard to membership.
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They just really aren’t anywhere near the accession criteria, are they? And beyond the immediate risks, what kind of precedent would bypassing those set?

Last week Liz Truss said the UK would “stand up” to despots and cut its “strategic dependence on authoritarian regimes.”

Today Boris Johnson travelled to Saudi Arabia to beg its dictator to give us more oil.

Tory Britain

Russia has officially sanctioned Joe Bidens ded father