comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
Humza new leader of the SNP

Snazzy suits are back in fashion
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maybe he will get a snazzy suit allowance too from the SNP for Marks & Spencer, to look as smart as his predecessor did

Another ethnic minority leader elected... UK leading the way

Another ethnic minority leader elected... UK leading the way.
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To where?

the holy land

Thought all the holes were in Blackburn Lancashire.

Only 4,000 of them

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65088130.amp

Strong statement from Corbyn this afternoon following this news. Surely only two questions remain now:

1. Will he stand as an independent in Is North? (My guess is yes.)

2. Will he form new party if he does so? He’s being begged to do so by hordes on Twitter and Instagram. (My guess is no.)

No room for another "more socialist" labour offshoot, it always fails when they do

When we have PR there will be space and a need for such a party

I don't really know why Corbyn and his supporters can't just accept that he did a really good job of getting more people, especially younger, engaged in politics but that ultimately he wasn't the right man to lead the country.

There would be absolutely no shame in that, but it's like he always has to be right even if it's not actually the best thing to do for the country.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
Nobody under 18 should be strip searched

Should be a metal detector only (for knives)
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#iagreewithoscar
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What shocked me was the 51% (from memory) of searches were carried out without an appropriate adult! WTAF
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It’s power. You give poorly trained people power over others, and they will abuse vulnerable people.

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
Nobody under 18 should be strip searched

Should be a metal detector only (for knives)
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#iagreewithoscar
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What shocked me was the 51% (from memory) of searches were carried out without an appropriate adult! WTAF
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It’s power. You give poorly trained people power over others, and they will abuse vulnerable people.
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a policeman's Achilles Heel is his ego. In any situation with any member of the general public it comes surging into the open as soon as they feel questioned or vulnerable with. Especially if they feel that they are superior to that person. (ie young males, black and brown people, all females, youths wearing casual gear (hoodies) smarter better informed people than them.... etc. etc. etc. you know the drill.

Regarding the police, there's probably a stronger case with them for the "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys", than the one someone was making earlier about politicians - who get paid good money, and we still get the monkeys.

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2023/0327/1366647-nashville-school-shooting/

Another day another US shooting

More than 130,000 civil servants have voted to go on strike next month in a dispute over pay, pensions and job security.

Another bundle of working people for the Tories to attack and besmirch

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I don't really know why Corbyn and his supporters can't just accept that he did a really good job of getting more people, especially younger, engaged in politics but that ultimately he wasn't the right man to lead the country.

There would be absolutely no shame in that, but it's like he always has to be right even if it's not actually the best thing to do for the country.
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He isn’t trying to lead the country.

He’s just trying to keep the job he’s been doing as MP for Islington North, quite admirably, since 1983, for constituents who love him (almost 75% of the vote last time out), who have continuously re-elected him, and who want him to continue as their representative in Parliament.

comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I don't really know why Corbyn and his supporters can't just accept that he did a really good job of getting more people, especially younger, engaged in politics but that ultimately he wasn't the right man to lead the country.

There would be absolutely no shame in that, but it's like he always has to be right even if it's not actually the best thing to do for the country.
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He isn’t trying to lead the country.

He’s just trying to keep the job he’s been doing as MP for Islington North, quite admirably, since 1983, for constituents who love him (almost 75% of the vote last time out), who have continuously re-elected him, and who want him to continue as their representative in Parliament.
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You've just said in a previous post about him setting up a new party and that he is 'being begged to do so by hordes on Twitter and Instagram'.

That would imply that his followers at least, haven't given up on him trying to 'lead the country'.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I don't really know why Corbyn and his supporters can't just accept that he did a really good job of getting more people, especially younger, engaged in politics but that ultimately he wasn't the right man to lead the country.

There would be absolutely no shame in that, but it's like he always has to be right even if it's not actually the best thing to do for the country.
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He isn’t trying to lead the country.

He’s just trying to keep the job he’s been doing as MP for Islington North, quite admirably, since 1983, for constituents who love him (almost 75% of the vote last time out), who have continuously re-elected him, and who want him to continue as their representative in Parliament.
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You've just said in a previous post about him setting up a new party and that he is 'being begged to do so by hordes on Twitter and Instagram'.

That would imply that his followers at least, haven't given up on him trying to 'lead the country'.
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Yeah, I was talking about Corbyn.

It seems to me that a large proportion of those who are egging him on to create a new party if he stands as an independent are just looking for a left of centre option and see him as a useful figurehead. It’s less ‘Cult of Corbyn’ and more ‘where’s our option?’.

The chatter is usually about voters defecting en masse to the Greens if there’s no other alternative.

I think it’s all probably moot anyway. I can’t see Corbyn founding his own party in his 70s. He’s been a proud member of the Labour Party for more than half a century, and I expect he will fight as long and hard as he can to remain part of the Party and for the Party.

comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I don't really know why Corbyn and his supporters can't just accept that he did a really good job of getting more people, especially younger, engaged in politics but that ultimately he wasn't the right man to lead the country.

There would be absolutely no shame in that, but it's like he always has to be right even if it's not actually the best thing to do for the country.
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He isn’t trying to lead the country.

He’s just trying to keep the job he’s been doing as MP for Islington North, quite admirably, since 1983, for constituents who love him (almost 75% of the vote last time out), who have continuously re-elected him, and who want him to continue as their representative in Parliament.
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You've just said in a previous post about him setting up a new party and that he is 'being begged to do so by hordes on Twitter and Instagram'.

That would imply that his followers at least, haven't given up on him trying to 'lead the country'.
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Yeah, I was talking about Corbyn.

It seems to me that a large proportion of those who are egging him on to create a new party if he stands as an independent are just looking for a left of centre option and see him as a useful figurehead. It’s less ‘Cult of Corbyn’ and more ‘where’s our option?’.

The chatter is usually about voters defecting en masse to the Greens if there’s no other alternative.

I think it’s all probably moot anyway. I can’t see Corbyn founding his own party in his 70s. He’s been a proud member of the Labour Party for more than half a century, and I expect he will fight as long and hard as he can to remain part of the Party and for the Party.
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It's all probably moot anyway because regardless of whether Corbyn sets up his own party or these people defect to Greens, they will still be a comfortable minority and have little impact on the election.

I say that as someone who has voted Green the last two elections too. The cult of Corbyn is more about noise than anything. It won't translate into numbers at an election.

Corbyn clinging onto the Labour Party isn't 'for the party' anymore. Its for his own ego.

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 45% (=)
CON: 30% (-5)
LDM: 10% (+3)
SNP: 4% (=)
GRN: 4% (=)
RFM: 4% (+1)

Via @DeltapollUK, 24-27 Mar.
Changes w/ 17-20 Mar.


INJECT IT INTO MY COOOOCK

I'd be surprised if the tories are higher than 30% come the election

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'd be surprised if the tories are higher than 30% come the election
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A long time until the next GE yet, but as things are at present, a) I wouldn’t expect a huge turnout, which is something that always favours the Tories, and b) I think the opposition vote will be a little more split than usual.

A vote tomorrow I expect would see a very comfortable Labour majority, but nothing resembling a Blair-era landslide.

Yeah we're maybe 18months from a GE and 18 months ago the Tories had a 5point lead

Blair has more charisma than Starmer but also crucially he had Murdoch onside

I'll be happy just seeing some of the saboteurs voted out. Johnson, Truss, Gullies, Rees-Mogg and the likes.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 14 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I don't really know why Corbyn and his supporters can't just accept that he did a really good job of getting more people, especially younger, engaged in politics but that ultimately he wasn't the right man to lead the country.

There would be absolutely no shame in that, but it's like he always has to be right even if it's not actually the best thing to do for the country.
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He isn’t trying to lead the country.

He’s just trying to keep the job he’s been doing as MP for Islington North, quite admirably, since 1983, for constituents who love him (almost 75% of the vote last time out), who have continuously re-elected him, and who want him to continue as their representative in Parliament.
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You've just said in a previous post about him setting up a new party and that he is 'being begged to do so by hordes on Twitter and Instagram'.

That would imply that his followers at least, haven't given up on him trying to 'lead the country'.
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Yeah, I was talking about Corbyn.

It seems to me that a large proportion of those who are egging him on to create a new party if he stands as an independent are just looking for a left of centre option and see him as a useful figurehead. It’s less ‘Cult of Corbyn’ and more ‘where’s our option?’.

The chatter is usually about voters defecting en masse to the Greens if there’s no other alternative.

I think it’s all probably moot anyway. I can’t see Corbyn founding his own party in his 70s. He’s been a proud member of the Labour Party for more than half a century, and I expect he will fight as long and hard as he can to remain part of the Party and for the Party.
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It's all probably moot anyway because regardless of whether Corbyn sets up his own party or these people defect to Greens, they will still be a comfortable minority and have little impact on the election.

I say that as someone who has voted Green the last two elections too. The cult of Corbyn is more about noise than anything. It won't translate into numbers at an election.

Corbyn clinging onto the Labour Party isn't 'for the party' anymore. Its for his own ego.
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I disagree it's ego.

It's his job, he loves it, he does it well and as a trade unionist Labour is his home.

Why should he give up on the party because starmer is trying to usurp and de-democratise it?