comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 22 minutes ago
Stick to The S*n you absolute bellend.
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What sort of person reads that piece of shiite and takes it seriously
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Oscar the dullard.
BBC News - Tory aides invited to 'Jingle and Mingle' at Covid party
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65952298
Jingle and Mingle ffs
Surely Bailey can't weasel out of this one now, has to get an FPN
Met Commissioner Mark Rowley as good as says attendees at CCHQ party will be fined.
“I think we can all guess which way it will go,” he tells @TheNewsAgents
“We can all see the colourful nature of the video and how much it tells a story way beyond the original photo”
Labour leads by 20%, the largest lead for Labour since 19 March.
Westminster VI (18 June):
Labour 46% (+2)
Conservative 26% (-4)
Liberal Democrat 12% (-1)
Reform UK 7% (+1)
Green 6% (+2)
Scottish National Party 3% (&ndash
Other 1% (&ndash
Changes +/- 11 June
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOCK
Theresa May:
I will vote in favour of the report of the Privileges Committee
I urge all members of this House to do so
To uphold standards in public life, to show that we all recognise the responsibility we have to the people we serve and to help restore faith in our democracy
Depressing times when this old hag is speaking sense
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 46% (+4)
CON: 27% (-4)
LDM: 10% (-2)
Via @DeltapollUK, 16-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 9-12 Jun.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOCK
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 16 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 46% (+4)
CON: 27% (-4)
LDM: 10% (-2)
Via @DeltapollUK, 16-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 9-12 Jun.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOCK
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Red Tories?
MPs vote to endorse the Privileges Committee report which found Boris Johnson lied to the House of Commons
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 36 minutes ago
MPs vote to endorse the Privileges Committee report which found Boris Johnson lied to the House of Commons
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What a waste of time political energy and public money it took to find him out.
Just 7 MPs (count them) voted against it. Whst a waste of Parliamentary time and public money it took to confirm the bleedin obvious.
I see Rishi took the cowards way out on the vote. Didn't want to upset the Boris bootlickers.
I have questions about the new MET investigation.
This is them re-investigating the same event due to new evidence. I hope it's going to encompass why this video wasn't shared to them, and the witness statements about that particular party (considering the METs conclusion was that it wasn't against the rules) because either
A) the statements were knowingly false, and then it's a perversion of justice surely?
Or
B) The MET have decided not to prosecute and there needs to be an enquiry in to why they came to that decision, and a possible reopening of the investigation.
Little Rishi and melted welly face Gove are cowards, too chicken to express an opinion on a parliamentary proven liar, that's the type of hard choice Tory leadership we have.
Couple of right-wingers where on here decrying Just Stop Oil as hypocrites for having a vehicle and plastic water bottles, doubt we'll hear a peep out of them this morning re: "integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level” as the wee fella in no.10 arrogantly crowed when he *eventually* got into the hot seat.
There's gonna be a 4th by-election, 4 rats deserting the sinking ship, 12 months before a general, weak, spineless Sunak should call the general election now but he won't. Buck buck baaah! Or maybe Gove would prefer cockwilldowilldooo!
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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All because of a pizza box and an internet beef with Greta 😂😂
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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The Matrix has won <>
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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Fritzl we win in tears
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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Fritzl we win in tears
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comment by Robb #gotheSwans (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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All because of a pizza box and an internet beef with Greta 😂😂
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Greta is Grate
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
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For the reasons I stated.
Glass and metal containers use thousands of times the energy to produce, unless they are used 1000s of times before being destroyed and recycled then you are increasing the power we need to generate.
The same is true of shipping them, a lorry containing 1000 plastic bottles of water Vs 1000 glass bottles of water will be markedly lighter and use less fuel. The weight of metal and glass materials mean transporting them inherently uses more fuel.
What's bad for the ENVIRONMENT (Not the climate) is the way we as humans act with regards to the waste, which is in itself an opportunity that humans really should factor in, we use the word waste too easily, almost everything is reusable in one form or another.
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
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For the reasons I stated.
Glass and metal containers use thousands of times the energy to produce, unless they are used 1000s of times before being destroyed and recycled then you are increasing the power we need to generate.
The same is true of shipping them, a lorry containing 1000 plastic bottles of water Vs 1000 glass bottles of water will be markedly lighter and use less fuel. The weight of metal and glass materials mean transporting them inherently uses more fuel.
What's bad for the ENVIRONMENT (Not the climate) is the way we as humans act with regards to the waste, which is in itself an opportunity that humans really should factor in, we use the word waste too easily, almost everything is reusable in one form or another.
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Ah so the carbon footprint of the alternatives being high. In a similar vein to electric cars Vs combustion; sounds like electric is the greener choice on the face of it but not necessarily true.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
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For the reasons I stated.
Glass and metal containers use thousands of times the energy to produce, unless they are used 1000s of times before being destroyed and recycled then you are increasing the power we need to generate.
The same is true of shipping them, a lorry containing 1000 plastic bottles of water Vs 1000 glass bottles of water will be markedly lighter and use less fuel. The weight of metal and glass materials mean transporting them inherently uses more fuel.
What's bad for the ENVIRONMENT (Not the climate) is the way we as humans act with regards to the waste, which is in itself an opportunity that humans really should factor in, we use the word waste too easily, almost everything is reusable in one form or another.
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Ah so the carbon footprint of the alternatives being high. In a similar vein to electric cars Vs combustion; sounds like electric is the greener choice on the face of it but not necessarily true.
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Depends on the statistics you use with regards to the vehicles emissions + cost of building the car etc. There's too many factors in it to ever get an accurate accounting, most car figures assume all the metal has been excavated rather than recycled, and most articles in favour of either type will often assume most of its been recycled.. everyone has an agenda.
Combustion engines are horrifically inefficient though, it's still better to burn fuel at a power plant and put it on our horrifically inefficient power grid (worst in Europe) and charge a car than to use it directly in the car..
Real life data is also showing battery degredation is better than expected, and that's before we start seeing the new battery tech, wear on the cars themselves is also significantly less, i.e. the chassis etc will last a lot longer than with rattly ICE cars.
All in all I very much believe electric cars are still the best option, you won't ever run a combustion engine on sunshine and wind after all, but we can get there with electic vehicles.
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 47% (+5)
CON: 28% (-3)
LDM: 10% (-3)
RFM: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
Via @Moreincommon_*, 15-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 12-15 May.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOOCK
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 47% (+5)
CON: 28% (-3)
LDM: 10% (-3)
RFM: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
Via @Moreincommon_*, 15-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 12-15 May.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOOCK
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honestly lad, what is the difference between Starmer and Sunak on most of the important issues ?
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posted on 19/6/23
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 22 minutes ago
Stick to The S*n you absolute bellend.
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What sort of person reads that piece of shiite and takes it seriously
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Oscar the dullard.
posted on 19/6/23
BBC News - Tory aides invited to 'Jingle and Mingle' at Covid party
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65952298
Jingle and Mingle ffs
Surely Bailey can't weasel out of this one now, has to get an FPN
posted on 19/6/23
Met Commissioner Mark Rowley as good as says attendees at CCHQ party will be fined.
“I think we can all guess which way it will go,” he tells @TheNewsAgents
“We can all see the colourful nature of the video and how much it tells a story way beyond the original photo”
posted on 19/6/23
Labour leads by 20%, the largest lead for Labour since 19 March.
Westminster VI (18 June):
Labour 46% (+2)
Conservative 26% (-4)
Liberal Democrat 12% (-1)
Reform UK 7% (+1)
Green 6% (+2)
Scottish National Party 3% (&ndash
Other 1% (&ndash
Changes +/- 11 June
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOCK
posted on 19/6/23
Theresa May:
I will vote in favour of the report of the Privileges Committee
I urge all members of this House to do so
To uphold standards in public life, to show that we all recognise the responsibility we have to the people we serve and to help restore faith in our democracy
Depressing times when this old hag is speaking sense
posted on 19/6/23
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
posted on 19/6/23
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 46% (+4)
CON: 27% (-4)
LDM: 10% (-2)
Via @DeltapollUK, 16-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 9-12 Jun.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOCK
posted on 19/6/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 16 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 46% (+4)
CON: 27% (-4)
LDM: 10% (-2)
Via @DeltapollUK, 16-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 9-12 Jun.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOCK
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Red Tories?
posted on 19/6/23
MPs vote to endorse the Privileges Committee report which found Boris Johnson lied to the House of Commons
posted on 19/6/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 36 minutes ago
MPs vote to endorse the Privileges Committee report which found Boris Johnson lied to the House of Commons
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What a waste of time political energy and public money it took to find him out.
Just 7 MPs (count them) voted against it. Whst a waste of Parliamentary time and public money it took to confirm the bleedin obvious.
posted on 19/6/23
I see Rishi took the cowards way out on the vote. Didn't want to upset the Boris bootlickers.
posted on 19/6/23
I have questions about the new MET investigation.
This is them re-investigating the same event due to new evidence. I hope it's going to encompass why this video wasn't shared to them, and the witness statements about that particular party (considering the METs conclusion was that it wasn't against the rules) because either
A) the statements were knowingly false, and then it's a perversion of justice surely?
Or
B) The MET have decided not to prosecute and there needs to be an enquiry in to why they came to that decision, and a possible reopening of the investigation.
posted on 20/6/23
Little Rishi and melted welly face Gove are cowards, too chicken to express an opinion on a parliamentary proven liar, that's the type of hard choice Tory leadership we have.
Couple of right-wingers where on here decrying Just Stop Oil as hypocrites for having a vehicle and plastic water bottles, doubt we'll hear a peep out of them this morning re: "integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level” as the wee fella in no.10 arrogantly crowed when he *eventually* got into the hot seat.
There's gonna be a 4th by-election, 4 rats deserting the sinking ship, 12 months before a general, weak, spineless Sunak should call the general election now but he won't. Buck buck baaah! Or maybe Gove would prefer cockwilldowilldooo!
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
posted on 20/6/23
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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All because of a pizza box and an internet beef with Greta 😂😂
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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The Matrix has won <>
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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Fritzl we win in tears
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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Fritzl we win in tears
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posted on 20/6/23
comment by Robb #gotheSwans (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Andrew Tate charged with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime group to sexually exploit women
Peks and the rest of the incels in tears
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All because of a pizza box and an internet beef with Greta 😂😂
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Greta is Grate
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
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For the reasons I stated.
Glass and metal containers use thousands of times the energy to produce, unless they are used 1000s of times before being destroyed and recycled then you are increasing the power we need to generate.
The same is true of shipping them, a lorry containing 1000 plastic bottles of water Vs 1000 glass bottles of water will be markedly lighter and use less fuel. The weight of metal and glass materials mean transporting them inherently uses more fuel.
What's bad for the ENVIRONMENT (Not the climate) is the way we as humans act with regards to the waste, which is in itself an opportunity that humans really should factor in, we use the word waste too easily, almost everything is reusable in one form or another.
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
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Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
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Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
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For the reasons I stated.
Glass and metal containers use thousands of times the energy to produce, unless they are used 1000s of times before being destroyed and recycled then you are increasing the power we need to generate.
The same is true of shipping them, a lorry containing 1000 plastic bottles of water Vs 1000 glass bottles of water will be markedly lighter and use less fuel. The weight of metal and glass materials mean transporting them inherently uses more fuel.
What's bad for the ENVIRONMENT (Not the climate) is the way we as humans act with regards to the waste, which is in itself an opportunity that humans really should factor in, we use the word waste too easily, almost everything is reusable in one form or another.
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Ah so the carbon footprint of the alternatives being high. In a similar vein to electric cars Vs combustion; sounds like electric is the greener choice on the face of it but not necessarily true.
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 15 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 8 seconds ago
Of course it's farking hypocritical, jeez! I cannot believe I'm having to spell out the very obvious point about how does anyone exist in this moment in time without relying on fossil fuels?
I thought you where both better than this to be honest, you disappoint me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok let me spell out the truly fling obvious thing that you’re clearly missing.
1. It’s one thing living in a world that is run on fossil fuels bad using some necessary items that also pollute.
2. It’s something else entirely for those items to be a 4x4 and plastic water bottles
You fking donut
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Plastic water bottles are actually pretty good for combatting climate change.
Of course re-useables are best, but only if you use them like 2000 times.
And if you sold the water in glass bottles in the shop because it's easily recyclable, well that would be pretty catastrophic too, in terms of energy invested in manufacture and transport.
Climate and environment are somewhat linked, but on certain issues they are at odds with one another..
On the part of the car, do we know what his job is? Where he lives? Seems a bit rash to judge without the facts, you can be very pro climate change whilst still needing certain tools in your day to say, I'm pro reduction of oil, but I drive a 4x4 because when I bought it I was towing two trailers of hay to the smallholding every week, and lived in a house that was up a sloped gravel driveway (with a gate halfway up)
A 2 wheel drive car was not an option. If you don't know the guys circumstances, seems odd to assume he's being a hypocrite.
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Plastic water bottles are good? How’s that? We’ve been told the polar opposite for decades?
As for the assumption, it’s a safe bet. Just because you had a need for a 4x4 doesn’t change the fact that the vast, vast majority of 4x4 owners don’t. Another difference between you and he is that you’re not disrupting peoples’ lives for a cause that you believe in. The exception isn’t the rule. Does he need a new 4x4? Could he not have bought an old one?
Anyway, not interested in discussing that hypocrite. The plastic water bottles combatting climate change is something I’ve never heard of.
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For the reasons I stated.
Glass and metal containers use thousands of times the energy to produce, unless they are used 1000s of times before being destroyed and recycled then you are increasing the power we need to generate.
The same is true of shipping them, a lorry containing 1000 plastic bottles of water Vs 1000 glass bottles of water will be markedly lighter and use less fuel. The weight of metal and glass materials mean transporting them inherently uses more fuel.
What's bad for the ENVIRONMENT (Not the climate) is the way we as humans act with regards to the waste, which is in itself an opportunity that humans really should factor in, we use the word waste too easily, almost everything is reusable in one form or another.
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Ah so the carbon footprint of the alternatives being high. In a similar vein to electric cars Vs combustion; sounds like electric is the greener choice on the face of it but not necessarily true.
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Depends on the statistics you use with regards to the vehicles emissions + cost of building the car etc. There's too many factors in it to ever get an accurate accounting, most car figures assume all the metal has been excavated rather than recycled, and most articles in favour of either type will often assume most of its been recycled.. everyone has an agenda.
Combustion engines are horrifically inefficient though, it's still better to burn fuel at a power plant and put it on our horrifically inefficient power grid (worst in Europe) and charge a car than to use it directly in the car..
Real life data is also showing battery degredation is better than expected, and that's before we start seeing the new battery tech, wear on the cars themselves is also significantly less, i.e. the chassis etc will last a lot longer than with rattly ICE cars.
All in all I very much believe electric cars are still the best option, you won't ever run a combustion engine on sunshine and wind after all, but we can get there with electic vehicles.
posted on 20/6/23
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 47% (+5)
CON: 28% (-3)
LDM: 10% (-3)
RFM: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
Via @Moreincommon_*, 15-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 12-15 May.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOOCK
posted on 20/6/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 47% (+5)
CON: 28% (-3)
LDM: 10% (-3)
RFM: 6% (+1)
SNP: 4% (+1)
GRN: 4% (-1)
Via @Moreincommon_*, 15-19 Jun.
Changes w/ 12-15 May.
INJECT IT INTO MY COOOOCK
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honestly lad, what is the difference between Starmer and Sunak on most of the important issues ?
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