comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
And I know it's timezones, numpty. Just a fun poke you donut.
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Now now. No need for personal abuse.
Can't help yourself.
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Donuts our grate
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
So vaccine rollout has stalled and the govt aren't saying why
Cancel April 12th plans
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Prioritising 2nd doses due to dip in supply I think
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Appears so.
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Seems to be the right call... once you have had the 1st then you're on the clock
Tbab, I was responding to YOUR question: Why have the EU27 not created their own vaccine. That's all.
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 6 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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AZ are a bollox and EU were spot on.
Told you all so.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
And I know it's timezones, numpty. Just a fun poke you donut.
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Now now. No need for personal abuse.
Can't help yourself.
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Donuts our grate
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If you're a North American cop.
Numpties not so grate.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 35 seconds ago
Tbab, I was responding to YOUR question: Why have the EU27 not created their own vaccine. That's all.
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I know mate, and you wete correct in where vaccines wete created, but my point remains the EU failed to feliver on vaccines to its people.
AZ to blame, bureaucracy, trying to get 27 states to agree or move in tandem, etc etc.
Bottom line is that folks are dying and Italy and France etc are seeing new waves of covid.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
Some fair comments Sat Nav. I think the major criticism the government should come under (and some/most should be sacked for) are:
* an island that doesn’t rely on exports/tourism as much as other nations should have reacted earlier - way earlier and it was so obvious.
* PPE scandal
* Hypocrisy from government (Cummings-Durham etc)
* Corrupt contract awarding (actually disgraceful)
* Test and trace failure
* Christmas flip-flopping and failing
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Agree with 1 but I think unless it was literally an airtight, nothing comes in nothing goes out scenario then we still would have got it. Even then how long could we really have shut the entire world out completely for?
2. PPE was a complete mess for most countries, we actually faired better than lots of places
3. I don’t buy into that too much. The country was already misbehaving long before Cummings.
4. Sure but not really on the topic of lockdowns, plenty of contracts were given to Labour donors too
5. Would have been great but we don’t have good social obedience in this country either. So even if it worked, it wouldn’t have done as people didn’t use it properly.
6. Christmas flip-flopping we were already in a tiered system which was anywhere from 60% of lockdown to 100% of lockdown anyway. This is the time of year that this thing was always going to hit hard here as per our influenza performance.
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Sweep sweep.
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The conversation was about lockdowns tbh but yeah what you label sweep sweep, I say is perspective and factual.
Is there anything I have written that you think is incorrect?
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Yes.
Operation Cygnus highlighted the lack of PPE and ventilators.
The country wasn't misbehaving as badly as you'rd insinuating, plus a fkn advisor refused to resign.
Labour contracts have got nothing to do with the corruption around £100m's for facemasks that were unfit for purpose that didn't even have earloops.
Christmas break because viruses take a holiday.
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Lol
Did I say that we didn’t have a PPE problem? I provided context, you know - perspective to properly gauge the level of a problem by comparison with other countries.
Yes it was, we’ve been over this already. Parks & beaches etc were filled with people long before Cummings.
The point is that everyone focused on Tory donor contracts even though Labour donors were also given contracts. The absolute joke ones such as one employee listed company and such like are a disgrace and heads should roll. I’ve said so many times as you know.
Christmas was cancelled and we were already in Tier 3/4 at the time that it was going ahead anyway. But thank you for agreeing that viruses of this nature come strongest at that time of year and decline massively by March. What month are we in now by the way? Oh yeah...
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So we can't compare deaths to other countries but PPE failure are conveniently comparable.
Nobody who helped set the restrictions drove a symptomatic wife hundreds of miles and no the beaches weren't full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52255091
What labour donors, crony, whatsapp pals from the pub got contracts?
Christmas tiers were 'relaxed' for 5 days.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
Some fair comments Sat Nav. I think the major criticism the government should come under (and some/most should be sacked for) are:
* an island that doesn’t rely on exports/tourism as much as other nations should have reacted earlier - way earlier and it was so obvious.
* PPE scandal
* Hypocrisy from government (Cummings-Durham etc)
* Corrupt contract awarding (actually disgraceful)
* Test and trace failure
* Christmas flip-flopping and failing
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Agree with 1 but I think unless it was literally an airtight, nothing comes in nothing goes out scenario then we still would have got it. Even then how long could we really have shut the entire world out completely for?
2. PPE was a complete mess for most countries, we actually faired better than lots of places
3. I don’t buy into that too much. The country was already misbehaving long before Cummings.
4. Sure but not really on the topic of lockdowns, plenty of contracts were given to Labour donors too
5. Would have been great but we don’t have good social obedience in this country either. So even if it worked, it wouldn’t have done as people didn’t use it properly.
6. Christmas flip-flopping we were already in a tiered system which was anywhere from 60% of lockdown to 100% of lockdown anyway. This is the time of year that this thing was always going to hit hard here as per our influenza performance.
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Sweep sweep.
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The conversation was about lockdowns tbh but yeah what you label sweep sweep, I say is perspective and factual.
Is there anything I have written that you think is incorrect?
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Yes.
Operation Cygnus highlighted the lack of PPE and ventilators.
The country wasn't misbehaving as badly as you'rd insinuating, plus a fkn advisor refused to resign.
Labour contracts have got nothing to do with the corruption around £100m's for facemasks that were unfit for purpose that didn't even have earloops.
Christmas break because viruses take a holiday.
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Lol
Did I say that we didn’t have a PPE problem? I provided context, you know - perspective to properly gauge the level of a problem by comparison with other countries.
Yes it was, we’ve been over this already. Parks & beaches etc were filled with people long before Cummings.
The point is that everyone focused on Tory donor contracts even though Labour donors were also given contracts. The absolute joke ones such as one employee listed company and such like are a disgrace and heads should roll. I’ve said so many times as you know.
Christmas was cancelled and we were already in Tier 3/4 at the time that it was going ahead anyway. But thank you for agreeing that viruses of this nature come strongest at that time of year and decline massively by March. What month are we in now by the way? Oh yeah...
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So we can't compare deaths to other countries but PPE failure are conveniently comparable.
Nobody who helped set the restrictions drove a symptomatic wife hundreds of miles and no the beaches weren't full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52255091
What labour donors, crony, whatsapp pals from the pub got contracts?
Christmas tiers were 'relaxed' for 5 days.
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Did I say we can’t compare deaths with our countries? I don’t remember saying that. Just like I didn’t say we didn’t have a PPE problem.
What’s the point in discussing the topic if you’re just going to continue to put words into my mouth to make straw man arguments? It’s just boring and a waste of time.
Yeah no point, enjoy your evening
No racism in Atlanta spa shootings.
Was just a guy addicted to s ex.
Well I hope his needs are seen to in prison. Could be a cure. Better than 12 steps.
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 6 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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AZ are a bollox and EU were spot on.
Told you all so.
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Shortage of AZ vaccines is maddening when you realise the EU squandered millions on the shelf.
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Nah the EU would never do that bro
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 57 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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Not surprised, the EU kicked up a stink over AstraZeneca because they didn’t adhere to the contracted doses that they promised.
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Moderna was supposed to arrive this month, heard nothing on it yet.
Hope we get the Johnson doses here, would much prefer a single shot of this than two.
my headache and stuff is gone now
thanks lads
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 57 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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Not surprised, the EU kicked up a stink over AstraZeneca because they didn’t adhere to the contracted doses that they promised.
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I thought the Tories had this under control. Most successful vaccine roll out ever.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
Some fair comments Sat Nav. I think the major criticism the government should come under (and some/most should be sacked for) are:
* an island that doesn’t rely on exports/tourism as much as other nations should have reacted earlier - way earlier and it was so obvious.
* PPE scandal
* Hypocrisy from government (Cummings-Durham etc)
* Corrupt contract awarding (actually disgraceful)
* Test and trace failure
* Christmas flip-flopping and failing
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Agree with 1 but I think unless it was literally an airtight, nothing comes in nothing goes out scenario then we still would have got it. Even then how long could we really have shut the entire world out completely for?
2. PPE was a complete mess for most countries, we actually faired better than lots of places
3. I don’t buy into that too much. The country was already misbehaving long before Cummings.
4. Sure but not really on the topic of lockdowns, plenty of contracts were given to Labour donors too
5. Would have been great but we don’t have good social obedience in this country either. So even if it worked, it wouldn’t have done as people didn’t use it properly.
6. Christmas flip-flopping we were already in a tiered system which was anywhere from 60% of lockdown to 100% of lockdown anyway. This is the time of year that this thing was always going to hit hard here as per our influenza performance.
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Sweep sweep.
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The conversation was about lockdowns tbh but yeah what you label sweep sweep, I say is perspective and factual.
Is there anything I have written that you think is incorrect?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.
Operation Cygnus highlighted the lack of PPE and ventilators.
The country wasn't misbehaving as badly as you'rd insinuating, plus a fkn advisor refused to resign.
Labour contracts have got nothing to do with the corruption around £100m's for facemasks that were unfit for purpose that didn't even have earloops.
Christmas break because viruses take a holiday.
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Lol
Did I say that we didn’t have a PPE problem? I provided context, you know - perspective to properly gauge the level of a problem by comparison with other countries.
Yes it was, we’ve been over this already. Parks & beaches etc were filled with people long before Cummings.
The point is that everyone focused on Tory donor contracts even though Labour donors were also given contracts. The absolute joke ones such as one employee listed company and such like are a disgrace and heads should roll. I’ve said so many times as you know.
Christmas was cancelled and we were already in Tier 3/4 at the time that it was going ahead anyway. But thank you for agreeing that viruses of this nature come strongest at that time of year and decline massively by March. What month are we in now by the way? Oh yeah...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we can't compare deaths to other countries but PPE failure are conveniently comparable.
Nobody who helped set the restrictions drove a symptomatic wife hundreds of miles and no the beaches weren't full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52255091
What labour donors, crony, whatsapp pals from the pub got contracts?
Christmas tiers were 'relaxed' for 5 days.
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Did I say we can’t compare deaths with our countries? I don’t remember saying that. Just like I didn’t say we didn’t have a PPE problem.
What’s the point in discussing the topic if you’re just going to continue to put words into my mouth to make straw man arguments? It’s just boring and a waste of time.
Yeah no point, enjoy your evening
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You know I'm not one to sensationalise but EUs politicising and scare mongering of the AZN vaccine has been really poor bordering on utterly shameful. It will cost lives in not only the EU but also UK. I know of old folk who have had AZN vaccine now concerned about clots, so I don't doubt it will have caused people to skip the injection.
Under 50’s excluded until May at least then and wouldn’t get both dose before August/September
Guessing that rules “vaccine” passports out? Or they’ll just add a negative test suffices
As I said months ago I doubt they’ll even offer under 50’s (unless front line worker) ever again after this year and hysteria dies down
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 13 seconds ago
You know I'm not one to sensationalise but EUs politicising and scare mongering of the AZN vaccine has been really poor bordering on utterly shameful. It will cost lives in not only the EU but also UK. I know of old folk who have had AZN vaccine now concerned about clots, so I don't doubt it will have caused people to skip the injection.
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I'm not sure you can blame the EU as an entity for that. At the end of the day there is still a level of independence and autonomy and these comments that were disparaging to AZV were not made on behalf of or intended to be representative of the EU IMO. The people who said those things should carry their own cross because ultimately I agree with you. They have caused damage that cannot be repaired not just for the UK, I think the world suffers a bit more. The fear of the vaccine is much greater in most countries in the world, many people in the UK will still take any vaccine given. This blood clots issue is just confirmation to reluctant people that they won't be taking the vaccine, like if one vaccine is fishy what makes you think the others aren't? Basically they've put the whole worldwide vaccination process in jeopardy. We need enough people worldwide to accept the vaccine and this blood clots issue is the most damaging thing that could have happened. Many people who refuse the vaccine will now give this as a reason.
They've made countries to suspend the vaccine even. It's low down dirty for a person in leadership to politically weaponise such an issue without caring or thinking about the collateral.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 16 minutes ago
You know I'm not one to sensationalise but EUs politicising and scare mongering of the AZN vaccine has been really poor bordering on utterly shameful. It will cost lives in not only the EU but also UK. I know of old folk who have had AZN vaccine now concerned about clots, so I don't doubt it will have caused people to skip the injection.
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Well I’m having my first dose on Sunday and I’m
a bit worried about clots, and there’s that woman that had a brain haemorrhage in Spain. Not sure how that’s the EU’s fault though, it’s what is happening.
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I’m going to have it regardless. Sure it’ll be fine,
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 57 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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Not surprised, the EU kicked up a stink over AstraZeneca because they didn’t adhere to the contracted doses that they promised.
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Baws
The EU thought they had a watertight contract. They didn’t. Some negotiation that eh?
So now they can’t get their own way; hijacking other countries equally legitimate contracts is the threat.
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posted on 17/3/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
And I know it's timezones, numpty. Just a fun poke you donut.
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Now now. No need for personal abuse.
Can't help yourself.
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Donuts our grate
posted on 17/3/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
So vaccine rollout has stalled and the govt aren't saying why
Cancel April 12th plans
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Prioritising 2nd doses due to dip in supply I think
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Appears so.
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Seems to be the right call... once you have had the 1st then you're on the clock
posted on 17/3/21
Tbab, I was responding to YOUR question: Why have the EU27 not created their own vaccine. That's all.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 6 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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AZ are a bollox and EU were spot on.
Told you all so.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
And I know it's timezones, numpty. Just a fun poke you donut.
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Now now. No need for personal abuse.
Can't help yourself.
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Donuts our grate
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If you're a North American cop.
Numpties not so grate.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 35 seconds ago
Tbab, I was responding to YOUR question: Why have the EU27 not created their own vaccine. That's all.
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I know mate, and you wete correct in where vaccines wete created, but my point remains the EU failed to feliver on vaccines to its people.
AZ to blame, bureaucracy, trying to get 27 states to agree or move in tandem, etc etc.
Bottom line is that folks are dying and Italy and France etc are seeing new waves of covid.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
Some fair comments Sat Nav. I think the major criticism the government should come under (and some/most should be sacked for) are:
* an island that doesn’t rely on exports/tourism as much as other nations should have reacted earlier - way earlier and it was so obvious.
* PPE scandal
* Hypocrisy from government (Cummings-Durham etc)
* Corrupt contract awarding (actually disgraceful)
* Test and trace failure
* Christmas flip-flopping and failing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with 1 but I think unless it was literally an airtight, nothing comes in nothing goes out scenario then we still would have got it. Even then how long could we really have shut the entire world out completely for?
2. PPE was a complete mess for most countries, we actually faired better than lots of places
3. I don’t buy into that too much. The country was already misbehaving long before Cummings.
4. Sure but not really on the topic of lockdowns, plenty of contracts were given to Labour donors too
5. Would have been great but we don’t have good social obedience in this country either. So even if it worked, it wouldn’t have done as people didn’t use it properly.
6. Christmas flip-flopping we were already in a tiered system which was anywhere from 60% of lockdown to 100% of lockdown anyway. This is the time of year that this thing was always going to hit hard here as per our influenza performance.
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Sweep sweep.
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The conversation was about lockdowns tbh but yeah what you label sweep sweep, I say is perspective and factual.
Is there anything I have written that you think is incorrect?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.
Operation Cygnus highlighted the lack of PPE and ventilators.
The country wasn't misbehaving as badly as you'rd insinuating, plus a fkn advisor refused to resign.
Labour contracts have got nothing to do with the corruption around £100m's for facemasks that were unfit for purpose that didn't even have earloops.
Christmas break because viruses take a holiday.
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Lol
Did I say that we didn’t have a PPE problem? I provided context, you know - perspective to properly gauge the level of a problem by comparison with other countries.
Yes it was, we’ve been over this already. Parks & beaches etc were filled with people long before Cummings.
The point is that everyone focused on Tory donor contracts even though Labour donors were also given contracts. The absolute joke ones such as one employee listed company and such like are a disgrace and heads should roll. I’ve said so many times as you know.
Christmas was cancelled and we were already in Tier 3/4 at the time that it was going ahead anyway. But thank you for agreeing that viruses of this nature come strongest at that time of year and decline massively by March. What month are we in now by the way? Oh yeah...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we can't compare deaths to other countries but PPE failure are conveniently comparable.
Nobody who helped set the restrictions drove a symptomatic wife hundreds of miles and no the beaches weren't full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52255091
What labour donors, crony, whatsapp pals from the pub got contracts?
Christmas tiers were 'relaxed' for 5 days.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
Some fair comments Sat Nav. I think the major criticism the government should come under (and some/most should be sacked for) are:
* an island that doesn’t rely on exports/tourism as much as other nations should have reacted earlier - way earlier and it was so obvious.
* PPE scandal
* Hypocrisy from government (Cummings-Durham etc)
* Corrupt contract awarding (actually disgraceful)
* Test and trace failure
* Christmas flip-flopping and failing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with 1 but I think unless it was literally an airtight, nothing comes in nothing goes out scenario then we still would have got it. Even then how long could we really have shut the entire world out completely for?
2. PPE was a complete mess for most countries, we actually faired better than lots of places
3. I don’t buy into that too much. The country was already misbehaving long before Cummings.
4. Sure but not really on the topic of lockdowns, plenty of contracts were given to Labour donors too
5. Would have been great but we don’t have good social obedience in this country either. So even if it worked, it wouldn’t have done as people didn’t use it properly.
6. Christmas flip-flopping we were already in a tiered system which was anywhere from 60% of lockdown to 100% of lockdown anyway. This is the time of year that this thing was always going to hit hard here as per our influenza performance.
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Sweep sweep.
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The conversation was about lockdowns tbh but yeah what you label sweep sweep, I say is perspective and factual.
Is there anything I have written that you think is incorrect?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.
Operation Cygnus highlighted the lack of PPE and ventilators.
The country wasn't misbehaving as badly as you'rd insinuating, plus a fkn advisor refused to resign.
Labour contracts have got nothing to do with the corruption around £100m's for facemasks that were unfit for purpose that didn't even have earloops.
Christmas break because viruses take a holiday.
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Lol
Did I say that we didn’t have a PPE problem? I provided context, you know - perspective to properly gauge the level of a problem by comparison with other countries.
Yes it was, we’ve been over this already. Parks & beaches etc were filled with people long before Cummings.
The point is that everyone focused on Tory donor contracts even though Labour donors were also given contracts. The absolute joke ones such as one employee listed company and such like are a disgrace and heads should roll. I’ve said so many times as you know.
Christmas was cancelled and we were already in Tier 3/4 at the time that it was going ahead anyway. But thank you for agreeing that viruses of this nature come strongest at that time of year and decline massively by March. What month are we in now by the way? Oh yeah...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we can't compare deaths to other countries but PPE failure are conveniently comparable.
Nobody who helped set the restrictions drove a symptomatic wife hundreds of miles and no the beaches weren't full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52255091
What labour donors, crony, whatsapp pals from the pub got contracts?
Christmas tiers were 'relaxed' for 5 days.
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Did I say we can’t compare deaths with our countries? I don’t remember saying that. Just like I didn’t say we didn’t have a PPE problem.
What’s the point in discussing the topic if you’re just going to continue to put words into my mouth to make straw man arguments? It’s just boring and a waste of time.
Yeah no point, enjoy your evening
posted on 17/3/21
No racism in Atlanta spa shootings.
Was just a guy addicted to s ex.
Well I hope his needs are seen to in prison. Could be a cure. Better than 12 steps.
posted on 17/3/21
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posted on 17/3/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 6 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
----------------------------------------------------------------------
AZ are a bollox and EU were spot on.
Told you all so.
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Shortage of AZ vaccines is maddening when you realise the EU squandered millions on the shelf.
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Nah the EU would never do that bro
posted on 17/3/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 57 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not surprised, the EU kicked up a stink over AstraZeneca because they didn’t adhere to the contracted doses that they promised.
posted on 17/3/21
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posted on 17/3/21
Moderna was supposed to arrive this month, heard nothing on it yet.
posted on 17/3/21
Hope we get the Johnson doses here, would much prefer a single shot of this than two.
posted on 17/3/21
my headache and stuff is gone now
thanks lads
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 57 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not surprised, the EU kicked up a stink over AstraZeneca because they didn’t adhere to the contracted doses that they promised.
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I thought the Tories had this under control. Most successful vaccine roll out ever.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 43 minutes ago
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comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
Some fair comments Sat Nav. I think the major criticism the government should come under (and some/most should be sacked for) are:
* an island that doesn’t rely on exports/tourism as much as other nations should have reacted earlier - way earlier and it was so obvious.
* PPE scandal
* Hypocrisy from government (Cummings-Durham etc)
* Corrupt contract awarding (actually disgraceful)
* Test and trace failure
* Christmas flip-flopping and failing
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Agree with 1 but I think unless it was literally an airtight, nothing comes in nothing goes out scenario then we still would have got it. Even then how long could we really have shut the entire world out completely for?
2. PPE was a complete mess for most countries, we actually faired better than lots of places
3. I don’t buy into that too much. The country was already misbehaving long before Cummings.
4. Sure but not really on the topic of lockdowns, plenty of contracts were given to Labour donors too
5. Would have been great but we don’t have good social obedience in this country either. So even if it worked, it wouldn’t have done as people didn’t use it properly.
6. Christmas flip-flopping we were already in a tiered system which was anywhere from 60% of lockdown to 100% of lockdown anyway. This is the time of year that this thing was always going to hit hard here as per our influenza performance.
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Sweep sweep.
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The conversation was about lockdowns tbh but yeah what you label sweep sweep, I say is perspective and factual.
Is there anything I have written that you think is incorrect?
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Yes.
Operation Cygnus highlighted the lack of PPE and ventilators.
The country wasn't misbehaving as badly as you'rd insinuating, plus a fkn advisor refused to resign.
Labour contracts have got nothing to do with the corruption around £100m's for facemasks that were unfit for purpose that didn't even have earloops.
Christmas break because viruses take a holiday.
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Lol
Did I say that we didn’t have a PPE problem? I provided context, you know - perspective to properly gauge the level of a problem by comparison with other countries.
Yes it was, we’ve been over this already. Parks & beaches etc were filled with people long before Cummings.
The point is that everyone focused on Tory donor contracts even though Labour donors were also given contracts. The absolute joke ones such as one employee listed company and such like are a disgrace and heads should roll. I’ve said so many times as you know.
Christmas was cancelled and we were already in Tier 3/4 at the time that it was going ahead anyway. But thank you for agreeing that viruses of this nature come strongest at that time of year and decline massively by March. What month are we in now by the way? Oh yeah...
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So we can't compare deaths to other countries but PPE failure are conveniently comparable.
Nobody who helped set the restrictions drove a symptomatic wife hundreds of miles and no the beaches weren't full.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52255091
What labour donors, crony, whatsapp pals from the pub got contracts?
Christmas tiers were 'relaxed' for 5 days.
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Did I say we can’t compare deaths with our countries? I don’t remember saying that. Just like I didn’t say we didn’t have a PPE problem.
What’s the point in discussing the topic if you’re just going to continue to put words into my mouth to make straw man arguments? It’s just boring and a waste of time.
Yeah no point, enjoy your evening
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posted on 17/3/21
You know I'm not one to sensationalise but EUs politicising and scare mongering of the AZN vaccine has been really poor bordering on utterly shameful. It will cost lives in not only the EU but also UK. I know of old folk who have had AZN vaccine now concerned about clots, so I don't doubt it will have caused people to skip the injection.
posted on 17/3/21
Under 50’s excluded until May at least then and wouldn’t get both dose before August/September
Guessing that rules “vaccine” passports out? Or they’ll just add a negative test suffices
As I said months ago I doubt they’ll even offer under 50’s (unless front line worker) ever again after this year and hysteria dies down
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 13 seconds ago
You know I'm not one to sensationalise but EUs politicising and scare mongering of the AZN vaccine has been really poor bordering on utterly shameful. It will cost lives in not only the EU but also UK. I know of old folk who have had AZN vaccine now concerned about clots, so I don't doubt it will have caused people to skip the injection.
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I'm not sure you can blame the EU as an entity for that. At the end of the day there is still a level of independence and autonomy and these comments that were disparaging to AZV were not made on behalf of or intended to be representative of the EU IMO. The people who said those things should carry their own cross because ultimately I agree with you. They have caused damage that cannot be repaired not just for the UK, I think the world suffers a bit more. The fear of the vaccine is much greater in most countries in the world, many people in the UK will still take any vaccine given. This blood clots issue is just confirmation to reluctant people that they won't be taking the vaccine, like if one vaccine is fishy what makes you think the others aren't? Basically they've put the whole worldwide vaccination process in jeopardy. We need enough people worldwide to accept the vaccine and this blood clots issue is the most damaging thing that could have happened. Many people who refuse the vaccine will now give this as a reason.
They've made countries to suspend the vaccine even. It's low down dirty for a person in leadership to politically weaponise such an issue without caring or thinking about the collateral.
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 16 minutes ago
You know I'm not one to sensationalise but EUs politicising and scare mongering of the AZN vaccine has been really poor bordering on utterly shameful. It will cost lives in not only the EU but also UK. I know of old folk who have had AZN vaccine now concerned about clots, so I don't doubt it will have caused people to skip the injection.
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Well I’m having my first dose on Sunday and I’m
a bit worried about clots, and there’s that woman that had a brain haemorrhage in Spain. Not sure how that’s the EU’s fault though, it’s what is happening.
posted on 17/3/21
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posted on 17/3/21
I’m going to have it regardless. Sure it’ll be fine,
posted on 17/3/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 57 minutes ago
And the reason why - well it appears a shortage of #AstraZenaca vaccines
AstraZeneca supply issues have beset not just the EU but UK and it appears that will continue for UK throughout April
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Not surprised, the EU kicked up a stink over AstraZeneca because they didn’t adhere to the contracted doses that they promised.
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Baws
The EU thought they had a watertight contract. They didn’t. Some negotiation that eh?
So now they can’t get their own way; hijacking other countries equally legitimate contracts is the threat.
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