comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 27 seconds ago
Does anyone know how the Plaid leader’s name is pronounced
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No worries
Rhun ap Iorwerth
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That helps
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 24 minutes ago
First polling in France: RN on 31%, left alliance 28%, Renaissance (Macron’s party) 18%.
https://x.com/meadwaj/status/1801086495266058257?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Well done calling that election Macron mate
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Biggest threat to the EU since Brexit IMO. France recently downgraded as far as credit rating too. Throw in the AI disruption of white collar jobs and we are in for a messy decade.
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The result in the poll would surely see Mélenchon (or one of his comrades) eventually become PM.
Renaissance won’t work with RN, and they otherwise Le Pen/Bardella wouldn’t be able to get remotely close to a majority coalition.
The left coalition would probably be able to stretch to mop up around 35% from the other leftists and best bet (speculation, granted, but very far from impossible) would be able to hook Renaissance in on a confidence-and-supply type agreement.
Long story short, RN is going to need to be polling well over 40% to have a chance of forming a govt with Bardella as PM.
*and otherwise Le Pen/Bardella
Labour will put failing water companies under special measures to clean up our water. We will give regulators new powers to block the payment of bonuses to executives who pollute our waterways and bring criminal charges against persistent law breakers. We will impose automatic and severe fines for wrongdoing and ensure independent monitoring of every outlet.
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About damn time
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Labour will put failing water companies under special measures to clean up our water. We will give regulators new powers to block the payment of bonuses to executives who pollute our waterways and bring criminal charges against persistent law breakers. We will impose automatic and severe fines for wrongdoing and ensure independent monitoring of every outlet.
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About damn time
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And dividends?
The problems with the private water companies running up vast debts and failing to invest in infrastructure haven’t been executive bonuses.
It has been failing companies paying exorbitant dividends to shareholders.
I suppose the automatic fines for any outlet that's pumping sewage will mean the companies are forced to either not pay/reduce dividends or let it go under, allowing the government to swoop in.
Here’s Ofwat explaining on a single page, on its very own website, why it’s a complete and utter waste of time:
https://www.ofwat.gov.uk/households/your-water-company/profits/
- Zero control over profits
- Zero control over dividends
- Zero control over debt/capital structure (and therefore long term stability)
“We encourage the companies to explain to their customers, and to the public generally, what returns they have made in the regulated business and what they intend to do with them.”
Pointless entity.
Hopefully the new powers Labour are talking about will actually allow OFWAT to have some teeth.
We can wait and see what “severe fines” means; but without regulation of a) reinvestment in infrastructure and either b) dividends or c) measures preventing leveraging up debt, the shiiiit will continue to flow, figuratively and quite probably literally.
British capitalism:
Hand an entire publicly-owned and perfectly functional industry - a key utility which every human being absolutely relies on to STAY ALIVE - to the private sector for pennies on the pound, allowing the creation of completely uncontested regional monopolies.
Then fail to require said monopolies to maintain the infrastructure, entirely paid for by Joe Public, that they’ve been handed. Fail to require said monopolies to maintain the safety and sanitation standards of the services they’ve inherited. Fail to regulate the financial structures or activities of said monopolies, allowing them to completely ignore reinvestment whilst wracking up vast debt solely in order to pay huge dividends to shareholders.
Finally, watch on with a baffled frown as the entire service descends into the abyss. “But how could this happen?!”
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 48 minutes ago
Labour will put failing water companies under special measures to clean up our water. We will give regulators new powers to block the payment of bonuses to executives who pollute our waterways and bring criminal charges against persistent law breakers. We will impose automatic and severe fines for wrongdoing and ensure independent monitoring of every outlet.
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About damn time
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It genuinely angers me.
The CEO of Severn Trent got £3.2m last year. £1.5m if that was a bonus.
They want to up the bill 48% to pay for infrastructure costs.
They had 60,000 unauthorised ‘spillages’ in that year.
It should be a criminal offence imo.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 32 minutes ago
British capitalism:
Hand an entire publicly-owned and perfectly functional industry - a key utility which every human being absolutely relies on to STAY ALIVE - to the private sector for pennies on the pound, allowing the creation of completely uncontested regional monopolies.
Then fail to require said monopolies to maintain the infrastructure, entirely paid for by Joe Public, that they’ve been handed. Fail to require said monopolies to maintain the safety and sanitation standards of the services they’ve inherited. Fail to regulate the financial structures or activities of said monopolies, allowing them to completely ignore reinvestment whilst wracking up vast debt solely in order to pay huge dividends to shareholders.
Finally, watch on with a baffled frown as the entire service descends into the abyss. “But how could this happen?!”
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Peks say he 100% agree
Two notes on the Labour manifesto.
Firstly, from IFS:
‘The tax rises and spending commitments promised by Labour are "trivial" and do "almost nothing" to address the "deep-seated problems" diagnosed by Labour, says the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS).
Paul Johnson, IFS director, says: "On current forecasts, and especially with an extra £17.5bn borrowing over five years to fund the green prosperity plan, this leaves literally no room – within the fiscal rule that Labour has signed up to – for any more spending than planned by the current government.
"And those plans do involve cuts both to investment spending and to spending on unprotected public services. Yet Sir Keir Starmer effectively ruled out such cuts."’
In short, the pledges in the manifesto aren’t going to deliver significant enough fresh revenue to do anything substantial.
Secondly, the absolute audacity of Sunak and pals:
‘Rishi Sunak responded to Labour's manifesto by claiming it would "mean the highest taxes in history".
"If you think they’ll win, start saving," he said on X.
Earlier, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt described Labour's plans as a "tax trap manifesto".’
They’re barely adding anything to the tax take! If taxes are going to be the “highest in history”, that’s primarily a result of your spectacular fiscal mismanagement and existing taxation schemes, ya bellends.
Also, just re-reading that, investment spending CANNOT be cut any further, or the UK is never going to escape this unending slump.
The opposite needs to happen, or this growth that Starmer keeps harping on about will simply not arrive.
Standard pensioner being racist to a mixed raced girl, and one of 30p’s constituents
https://x.com/mlothianmclean/status/1801239795395444771?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Just seen Chris Hope interview Starmer on GB News.
Fair play to him as he asked the question I wanted answered about the audience laughing (at the Sky debate yesterday) when he again mentioned that his father was a toolmaker. Starmer was visibly angry and said that his father worked in a factory his entire life and felt disrespected for it. To the extent that he withdrew from social occasions as he grew older.
Once again Starmer has completely missed the point, nobodies laughing at his fathers profession and the chip on his shoulder that he obviously had about it. Folk are laughing because he brings it up everytime he gets behind a microphone (he even did it again at the manifesto launch today).
In short nobodies laughing at his dad's job they are laughing at Starmers dull repetition. You'd think that he would have advisers who would point this out to him?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Just seen Chris Hope interview Starmer on GB News.
Fair play to him as he asked the question I wanted answered about the audience laughing (at the Sky debate yesterday) when he again mentioned that his father was a toolmaker. Starmer was visibly angry and said that his father worked in a factory his entire life and felt disrespected for it. To the extent that he withdrew from social occasions as he grew older.
Once again Starmer has completely missed the point, nobodies laughing at his fathers profession and the chip on his shoulder that he obviously had about it. Folk are laughing because he brings it up everytime he gets behind a microphone (he even did it again at the manifesto launch today).
In short nobodies laughing at his dad's job they are laughing at Starmers dull repetition. You'd think that he would have advisers who would point this out to him?
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Barry
As long as Starmer is winding up people as right-wing daft as you are, he's doing a very good job of being the PM elect. Long may he continue.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Just seen Chris Hope interview Starmer on GB News.
Fair play to him as he asked the question I wanted answered about the audience laughing (at the Sky debate yesterday) when he again mentioned that his father was a toolmaker. Starmer was visibly angry and said that his father worked in a factory his entire life and felt disrespected for it. To the extent that he withdrew from social occasions as he grew older.
Once again Starmer has completely missed the point, nobodies laughing at his fathers profession and the chip on his shoulder that he obviously had about it. Folk are laughing because he brings it up everytime he gets behind a microphone (he even did it again at the manifesto launch today).
In short nobodies laughing at his dad's job they are laughing at Starmers dull repetition. You'd think that he would have advisers who would point this out to him?
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You're right, it's only nobodies who are laughing at Starmer talking about his dad's job
Most people get why he says it, time and time again
📉NEW POLL @YouGov
BREAK: Crossover - @Nigel_Farage Reform party has overtaken the Conservatives in a poll for the first time
Labour maintain a 19 point lead
🔴LAB 37%
🟣REF 19%
🔵CON 18%
Go home Penny, you’re drunk
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
📉NEW POLL @YouGov
BREAK: Crossover - @Nigel_Farage Reform party has overtaken the Conservatives in a poll for the first time
Labour maintain a 19 point lead
🔴LAB 37%
🟣REF 19%
🔵CON 18%
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Farage will lead a Reform/Conservative coalition
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 7 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
📉NEW POLL @YouGov
BREAK: Crossover - @Nigel_Farage Reform party has overtaken the Conservatives in a poll for the first time
Labour maintain a 19 point lead
🔴LAB 37%
🟣REF 19%
🔵CON 18%
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Farage will lead a Reform/Conservative coalition
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Tories are too proud. Farage will make them kiss the ring.
I imagine that's Farage's plan to be honest. Win an ok amount of seats with the Tories tanking, and then offer to merge with himself being leader of the 'new Tories'.
Makes it the more madder the Tories actually put ads out saying you need to vote for us or Reform will overtake us.
How embarrassing for the Conservative Party, the mere thought that an unrepresentive party, ok one defector MP, can even think about dictating to the most successful political party ever.
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posted on 13/6/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 27 seconds ago
Does anyone know how the Plaid leader’s name is pronounced
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No worries
Rhun ap Iorwerth
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That helps
posted on 13/6/24
So it’s ’Roon Ap’
posted on 13/6/24
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 24 minutes ago
First polling in France: RN on 31%, left alliance 28%, Renaissance (Macron’s party) 18%.
https://x.com/meadwaj/status/1801086495266058257?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Well done calling that election Macron mate
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Biggest threat to the EU since Brexit IMO. France recently downgraded as far as credit rating too. Throw in the AI disruption of white collar jobs and we are in for a messy decade.
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The result in the poll would surely see Mélenchon (or one of his comrades) eventually become PM.
Renaissance won’t work with RN, and they otherwise Le Pen/Bardella wouldn’t be able to get remotely close to a majority coalition.
The left coalition would probably be able to stretch to mop up around 35% from the other leftists and best bet (speculation, granted, but very far from impossible) would be able to hook Renaissance in on a confidence-and-supply type agreement.
Long story short, RN is going to need to be polling well over 40% to have a chance of forming a govt with Bardella as PM.
posted on 13/6/24
*and otherwise Le Pen/Bardella
posted on 13/6/24
Labour will put failing water companies under special measures to clean up our water. We will give regulators new powers to block the payment of bonuses to executives who pollute our waterways and bring criminal charges against persistent law breakers. We will impose automatic and severe fines for wrongdoing and ensure independent monitoring of every outlet.
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About damn time
posted on 13/6/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Labour will put failing water companies under special measures to clean up our water. We will give regulators new powers to block the payment of bonuses to executives who pollute our waterways and bring criminal charges against persistent law breakers. We will impose automatic and severe fines for wrongdoing and ensure independent monitoring of every outlet.
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About damn time
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And dividends?
The problems with the private water companies running up vast debts and failing to invest in infrastructure haven’t been executive bonuses.
It has been failing companies paying exorbitant dividends to shareholders.
posted on 13/6/24
I suppose the automatic fines for any outlet that's pumping sewage will mean the companies are forced to either not pay/reduce dividends or let it go under, allowing the government to swoop in.
posted on 13/6/24
Here’s Ofwat explaining on a single page, on its very own website, why it’s a complete and utter waste of time:
https://www.ofwat.gov.uk/households/your-water-company/profits/
- Zero control over profits
- Zero control over dividends
- Zero control over debt/capital structure (and therefore long term stability)
“We encourage the companies to explain to their customers, and to the public generally, what returns they have made in the regulated business and what they intend to do with them.”
Pointless entity.
posted on 13/6/24
Hopefully the new powers Labour are talking about will actually allow OFWAT to have some teeth.
posted on 13/6/24
We can wait and see what “severe fines” means; but without regulation of a) reinvestment in infrastructure and either b) dividends or c) measures preventing leveraging up debt, the shiiiit will continue to flow, figuratively and quite probably literally.
posted on 13/6/24
British capitalism:
Hand an entire publicly-owned and perfectly functional industry - a key utility which every human being absolutely relies on to STAY ALIVE - to the private sector for pennies on the pound, allowing the creation of completely uncontested regional monopolies.
Then fail to require said monopolies to maintain the infrastructure, entirely paid for by Joe Public, that they’ve been handed. Fail to require said monopolies to maintain the safety and sanitation standards of the services they’ve inherited. Fail to regulate the financial structures or activities of said monopolies, allowing them to completely ignore reinvestment whilst wracking up vast debt solely in order to pay huge dividends to shareholders.
Finally, watch on with a baffled frown as the entire service descends into the abyss. “But how could this happen?!”
posted on 13/6/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 48 minutes ago
Labour will put failing water companies under special measures to clean up our water. We will give regulators new powers to block the payment of bonuses to executives who pollute our waterways and bring criminal charges against persistent law breakers. We will impose automatic and severe fines for wrongdoing and ensure independent monitoring of every outlet.
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About damn time
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It genuinely angers me.
The CEO of Severn Trent got £3.2m last year. £1.5m if that was a bonus.
They want to up the bill 48% to pay for infrastructure costs.
They had 60,000 unauthorised ‘spillages’ in that year.
It should be a criminal offence imo.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 32 minutes ago
British capitalism:
Hand an entire publicly-owned and perfectly functional industry - a key utility which every human being absolutely relies on to STAY ALIVE - to the private sector for pennies on the pound, allowing the creation of completely uncontested regional monopolies.
Then fail to require said monopolies to maintain the infrastructure, entirely paid for by Joe Public, that they’ve been handed. Fail to require said monopolies to maintain the safety and sanitation standards of the services they’ve inherited. Fail to regulate the financial structures or activities of said monopolies, allowing them to completely ignore reinvestment whilst wracking up vast debt solely in order to pay huge dividends to shareholders.
Finally, watch on with a baffled frown as the entire service descends into the abyss. “But how could this happen?!”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Peks say he 100% agree
posted on 13/6/24
Two notes on the Labour manifesto.
Firstly, from IFS:
‘The tax rises and spending commitments promised by Labour are "trivial" and do "almost nothing" to address the "deep-seated problems" diagnosed by Labour, says the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS).
Paul Johnson, IFS director, says: "On current forecasts, and especially with an extra £17.5bn borrowing over five years to fund the green prosperity plan, this leaves literally no room – within the fiscal rule that Labour has signed up to – for any more spending than planned by the current government.
"And those plans do involve cuts both to investment spending and to spending on unprotected public services. Yet Sir Keir Starmer effectively ruled out such cuts."’
In short, the pledges in the manifesto aren’t going to deliver significant enough fresh revenue to do anything substantial.
Secondly, the absolute audacity of Sunak and pals:
‘Rishi Sunak responded to Labour's manifesto by claiming it would "mean the highest taxes in history".
"If you think they’ll win, start saving," he said on X.
Earlier, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt described Labour's plans as a "tax trap manifesto".’
They’re barely adding anything to the tax take! If taxes are going to be the “highest in history”, that’s primarily a result of your spectacular fiscal mismanagement and existing taxation schemes, ya bellends.
posted on 13/6/24
Also, just re-reading that, investment spending CANNOT be cut any further, or the UK is never going to escape this unending slump.
The opposite needs to happen, or this growth that Starmer keeps harping on about will simply not arrive.
posted on 13/6/24
Standard pensioner being racist to a mixed raced girl, and one of 30p’s constituents
https://x.com/mlothianmclean/status/1801239795395444771?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
posted on 13/6/24
Just seen Chris Hope interview Starmer on GB News.
Fair play to him as he asked the question I wanted answered about the audience laughing (at the Sky debate yesterday) when he again mentioned that his father was a toolmaker. Starmer was visibly angry and said that his father worked in a factory his entire life and felt disrespected for it. To the extent that he withdrew from social occasions as he grew older.
Once again Starmer has completely missed the point, nobodies laughing at his fathers profession and the chip on his shoulder that he obviously had about it. Folk are laughing because he brings it up everytime he gets behind a microphone (he even did it again at the manifesto launch today).
In short nobodies laughing at his dad's job they are laughing at Starmers dull repetition. You'd think that he would have advisers who would point this out to him?
posted on 13/6/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Just seen Chris Hope interview Starmer on GB News.
Fair play to him as he asked the question I wanted answered about the audience laughing (at the Sky debate yesterday) when he again mentioned that his father was a toolmaker. Starmer was visibly angry and said that his father worked in a factory his entire life and felt disrespected for it. To the extent that he withdrew from social occasions as he grew older.
Once again Starmer has completely missed the point, nobodies laughing at his fathers profession and the chip on his shoulder that he obviously had about it. Folk are laughing because he brings it up everytime he gets behind a microphone (he even did it again at the manifesto launch today).
In short nobodies laughing at his dad's job they are laughing at Starmers dull repetition. You'd think that he would have advisers who would point this out to him?
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Barry
As long as Starmer is winding up people as right-wing daft as you are, he's doing a very good job of being the PM elect. Long may he continue.
posted on 13/6/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Just seen Chris Hope interview Starmer on GB News.
Fair play to him as he asked the question I wanted answered about the audience laughing (at the Sky debate yesterday) when he again mentioned that his father was a toolmaker. Starmer was visibly angry and said that his father worked in a factory his entire life and felt disrespected for it. To the extent that he withdrew from social occasions as he grew older.
Once again Starmer has completely missed the point, nobodies laughing at his fathers profession and the chip on his shoulder that he obviously had about it. Folk are laughing because he brings it up everytime he gets behind a microphone (he even did it again at the manifesto launch today).
In short nobodies laughing at his dad's job they are laughing at Starmers dull repetition. You'd think that he would have advisers who would point this out to him?
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You're right, it's only nobodies who are laughing at Starmer talking about his dad's job
Most people get why he says it, time and time again
posted on 13/6/24
📉NEW POLL @YouGov
BREAK: Crossover - @Nigel_Farage Reform party has overtaken the Conservatives in a poll for the first time
Labour maintain a 19 point lead
🔴LAB 37%
🟣REF 19%
🔵CON 18%
posted on 13/6/24
Go home Penny, you’re drunk
posted on 13/6/24
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
📉NEW POLL @YouGov
BREAK: Crossover - @Nigel_Farage Reform party has overtaken the Conservatives in a poll for the first time
Labour maintain a 19 point lead
🔴LAB 37%
🟣REF 19%
🔵CON 18%
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Farage will lead a Reform/Conservative coalition
posted on 14/6/24
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 7 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
📉NEW POLL @YouGov
BREAK: Crossover - @Nigel_Farage Reform party has overtaken the Conservatives in a poll for the first time
Labour maintain a 19 point lead
🔴LAB 37%
🟣REF 19%
🔵CON 18%
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Farage will lead a Reform/Conservative coalition
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Tories are too proud. Farage will make them kiss the ring.
posted on 14/6/24
I imagine that's Farage's plan to be honest. Win an ok amount of seats with the Tories tanking, and then offer to merge with himself being leader of the 'new Tories'.
Makes it the more madder the Tories actually put ads out saying you need to vote for us or Reform will overtake us.
posted on 14/6/24
How embarrassing for the Conservative Party, the mere thought that an unrepresentive party, ok one defector MP, can even think about dictating to the most successful political party ever.
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