comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho... (U12980)
posted 38 minutes ago
Tax increases won’t do nothing. Will just make people have less money and more of the rich just use tax havens or even more loopholes
Lower VAT is the key/the solution
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They will if the money is diverted in the right direction.
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho... (U12980)
posted 38 minutes ago
Tax increases won’t do nothing. Will just make people have less money and more of the rich just use tax havens or even more loopholes
Lower VAT is the key/the solution
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They will if the money is diverted in the right direction.
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When it inevitably isn't we're then meant to get angry at everyone from immigrants to ourselves instead of the people robbing us blind.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tax increases won’t do nothing. Will just make people have less money and more of the rich just use tax havens or even more loopholes
Lower VAT is the key/the solution
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What do you think lowering VAT will achieve?
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Don’t feed it!
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It's always best to challenge people like Oscar on things like this. They shouldn't be allowed just to say soundbites without saying how they think it will actually help.
Plus, I'm not totally against lowering VAT as I think it is a tax that disproportionately affect the poor. Implementing it in isolation and without controls to stop price gouging though would have a negative impact.
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This.
It’d be fantastic to see VAT significantly restructured to lower the tax burden on those who need the most help. It’s a horribly regressive, indiscriminate tax which penalises the very poorest in society the most.
It’d have to be done carefully and I would suggest in a step-by-step fashion, not least because I think it represents something like 5% of UK GDP; but for a start, and very obviously, there are still an awful lot of full-rate essential items which should and could be VAT exempt or reduced-rate, the loss of revenue from which could be recouped through a higher rate on luxury goods (particularly imports).
It always amazes me that we don’t often hear fiscal conservatives complain about VAT, which for many essential, day-to-day products and services might be considered a second tax on income, whilst many are wont to complain incessantly about inheritance as a “second tax on income”.
Might anyone be able to suggest why?…
Sky started broadcasting when Rishi was 8 years old and originally had 3 channels
At 11 he went to boarding school, I wonder if the depravation of those 3 interim years scarred him mentally?
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comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
Of course it is. It demonstrates what an out of touch posh Tory blurt he is. Guy’s a fvcking beIlend if we’re honest.
There’s an amusing interview of him as a kid talking about how he definitely, probably, has some working class friends. Fvcking lol, get in the bin.
He’ll be saying he had to survive without broadband in the early 90’s next
Sunak gone full 'you think you had it tough, back in my day!!'
I feel for him, even my family had Sky back then, it wasn't even knockoff!. Alright we couldn't get a doctors appointment and days off school due to fire were regular but swings and roundabouts isn't it.
I actually didn’t realise just how awful Rishi is at politics.
He’s an absolute car crash in every, single department and I love it.
Sky was £2 a week back then, not much more than a pint of lager.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
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Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
They were so poor that he missed out on a scholarship because they had so much money
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
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Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
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I’m pretty comfortable with it, yes. Depends what you define as long-term? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years?
I don’t think the first two would be a problem and by then we’ll either be dead or have a very different energy production system by then.
I’ve not fact checked this or checked the math but:
In 2020, America consumed 19.890 million barrels of oil based products a day in 2021.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
How much of the crude oil produced in the United States is consumed in the United States? The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot determine precisely how much of the crude oil produced in the United States is consumed in the United States. Most of the crude oil produced in the United States is refined in U.S. refineries along with imported crude oil to make petroleum products . For data on U.S. domestic (field) crude oil production, imports, exports, and refinery inputs of crude oil see U.S. Petroleum Supply and Disposition . EIA publishes data on the volumes of domestic and imported crude oil received at U.S. refineries in Refinery Receipts of Crude Oil by Method of Transportation . EIA is not able to determine precisely how much of the crude oil exported from the United States is produced in the United States because some of the exported crude oil may originally have been imported from other countries, placed in storage, and then re-exported. The United States also produces and exports petroleum products, but EIA is unable to precisely track how much of these petroleum exports are made from domestically produced or imported crude oil. Also, some of U.S. crude oil exports are refined into petroleum products in other countries, which may be exported back to, and consumed in, the United States. EIA’s data for 2023 indicates that U.S. total petroleum production averaged about 21.691 million barrels per day (b/d), which included: Total U.S. petroleum consumption (reported as product supplied ) averaged about 20.246 million b/d in 2023. The difference between petroleum consumption and production is mainly composed of net imports (imports minus exports) of petroleum and changes in petroleum inventories (stocks). Learn more: How much oil is consumed in the United States? How much petroleum does the United States import and export? Monthly Energy Review , Table 3.1: Petroleum Overview U.S. Petroleum Supply and Disposition Energy Explained: Oil and petroleum products Last updated: March 29, 2024, with preliminary monthly data for 2023 from the Monthly Energy Review , March 2024. Other FAQs about Oil/Petroleum When was the last refinery built in the United States? Does EIA have data on the movement (transport) of crude oil, petroleum products, fuel ethanol, and biodiesel by rail? What do I pay for in a gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel? How much coal, natural gas, or petroleum is used to generate a kilowatthour of electricity? What is the outlook for home heating fuel prices this winter? Does EIA have data on U.S. oil refineries and their locations? Does EIA have information on U.S. natural gas and oil pipelines? How much oil is consumed in the United States? How much oil is used to make plastic? What types and amounts of energy are produced in each state? How much shale (tight) oil is produced in the United States? What is the difference between crude oil, petroleum products, and petroleum? What are petroleum products, and what is petro
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=268&t=6
Round that off to 20 megabarrels a day. 159 liters per barrel so thats 3179.75 mega liters a day.
Now what if lake superior was the only source of liquid fuel in the americas. And we assume that lake superior is an isolated body of liquid. No liquid coming in or out.
lake superior =3 quadrillion gallons or 300,000,0000 mega gallons or 11,356,235,352 megaliters
11,356,235,352 / 3179.75 = 3571423.96478 days or 9784.72 years
Hey not bad. Almost 1000 years worth of fuel if you add a smaller lake to lake superior.
For comparison, america uses 322 billion gallons of water per day or 1,218,900 megaliters/day. 383 times the amount of oil
Yeeeesh ignore that long block
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
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Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
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I’m pretty comfortable with it, yes. Depends what you define as long-term? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years?
I don’t think the first two would be a problem and by then we’ll either be dead or have a very different energy production system by then.
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11 cities are predicted to run out of water. One of which is London, which could see problems as early as 2025 and serious shortages by 2040.
Water supply is a genuine issue around the world and adding more demand is likely to have a very real effect quite quickly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-42982959
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
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Possibly I suppose but reading the reports it sounds like he was making the point that his family had to make sacrifices for his education, so was then asked what these sacrifices were, to which his reply was not having Sky TV.
I can emphasise feeling like you've missed out on something others have, but I'm also not sure I'd call not having Sky TV in the early 90s as a sacrifice.
This the same young guy that said he had "aristocratic friends, upper class friends, working. .no, no working class friends" yeah?
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posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
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Possibly I suppose but reading the reports it sounds like he was making the point that his family had to make sacrifices for his education, so was then asked what these sacrifices were, to which his reply was not having Sky TV.
I can emphasise feeling like you've missed out on something others have, but I'm also not sure I'd call not having Sky TV in the early 90s as a sacrifice.
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The guy is a PR disaster for the Tories. He just cant helphimself with everything he does or says atm.
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comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
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Possibly I suppose but reading the reports it sounds like he was making the point that his family had to make sacrifices for his education, so was then asked what these sacrifices were, to which his reply was not having Sky TV.
I can emphasise feeling like you've missed out on something others have, but I'm also not sure I'd call not having Sky TV in the early 90s as a sacrifice.
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The guy is a PR disaster for the Tories. He just cant helphimself with everything he does or says atm.
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He'd have a better chance if he stayed off telly and social from now until July 5th. Watch the polls go up.
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comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
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I’m pretty comfortable with it, yes. Depends what you define as long-term? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years?
I don’t think the first two would be a problem and by then we’ll either be dead or have a very different energy production system by then.
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11 cities are predicted to run out of water. One of which is London, which could see problems as early as 2025 and serious shortages by 2040.
Water supply is a genuine issue around the world and adding more demand is likely to have a very real effect quite quickly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-42982959
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Desalination costs have dropped a lot. Water isn’t a problem. Birth rates are a much bigger and immediate threat for many countries.
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comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho... (U12980)
posted 38 minutes ago
Tax increases won’t do nothing. Will just make people have less money and more of the rich just use tax havens or even more loopholes
Lower VAT is the key/the solution
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They will if the money is diverted in the right direction.
posted on 12/6/24
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
posted on 12/6/24
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho... (U12980)
posted 38 minutes ago
Tax increases won’t do nothing. Will just make people have less money and more of the rich just use tax havens or even more loopholes
Lower VAT is the key/the solution
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They will if the money is diverted in the right direction.
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When it inevitably isn't we're then meant to get angry at everyone from immigrants to ourselves instead of the people robbing us blind.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tax increases won’t do nothing. Will just make people have less money and more of the rich just use tax havens or even more loopholes
Lower VAT is the key/the solution
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What do you think lowering VAT will achieve?
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Don’t feed it!
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It's always best to challenge people like Oscar on things like this. They shouldn't be allowed just to say soundbites without saying how they think it will actually help.
Plus, I'm not totally against lowering VAT as I think it is a tax that disproportionately affect the poor. Implementing it in isolation and without controls to stop price gouging though would have a negative impact.
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This.
It’d be fantastic to see VAT significantly restructured to lower the tax burden on those who need the most help. It’s a horribly regressive, indiscriminate tax which penalises the very poorest in society the most.
It’d have to be done carefully and I would suggest in a step-by-step fashion, not least because I think it represents something like 5% of UK GDP; but for a start, and very obviously, there are still an awful lot of full-rate essential items which should and could be VAT exempt or reduced-rate, the loss of revenue from which could be recouped through a higher rate on luxury goods (particularly imports).
It always amazes me that we don’t often hear fiscal conservatives complain about VAT, which for many essential, day-to-day products and services might be considered a second tax on income, whilst many are wont to complain incessantly about inheritance as a “second tax on income”.
Might anyone be able to suggest why?…
posted on 12/6/24
Sky started broadcasting when Rishi was 8 years old and originally had 3 channels
At 11 he went to boarding school, I wonder if the depravation of those 3 interim years scarred him mentally?
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
posted on 12/6/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
posted on 12/6/24
Of course it is. It demonstrates what an out of touch posh Tory blurt he is. Guy’s a fvcking beIlend if we’re honest.
There’s an amusing interview of him as a kid talking about how he definitely, probably, has some working class friends. Fvcking lol, get in the bin.
posted on 12/6/24
He’ll be saying he had to survive without broadband in the early 90’s next
posted on 12/6/24
Sunak gone full 'you think you had it tough, back in my day!!'
I feel for him, even my family had Sky back then, it wasn't even knockoff!. Alright we couldn't get a doctors appointment and days off school due to fire were regular but swings and roundabouts isn't it.
posted on 12/6/24
I actually didn’t realise just how awful Rishi is at politics.
He’s an absolute car crash in every, single department and I love it.
posted on 12/6/24
Sky was £2 a week back then, not much more than a pint of lager.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
posted on 12/6/24
They were so poor that he missed out on a scholarship because they had so much money
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
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Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
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I’m pretty comfortable with it, yes. Depends what you define as long-term? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years?
I don’t think the first two would be a problem and by then we’ll either be dead or have a very different energy production system by then.
posted on 12/6/24
I’ve not fact checked this or checked the math but:
In 2020, America consumed 19.890 million barrels of oil based products a day in 2021.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
How much of the crude oil produced in the United States is consumed in the United States? The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot determine precisely how much of the crude oil produced in the United States is consumed in the United States. Most of the crude oil produced in the United States is refined in U.S. refineries along with imported crude oil to make petroleum products . For data on U.S. domestic (field) crude oil production, imports, exports, and refinery inputs of crude oil see U.S. Petroleum Supply and Disposition . EIA publishes data on the volumes of domestic and imported crude oil received at U.S. refineries in Refinery Receipts of Crude Oil by Method of Transportation . EIA is not able to determine precisely how much of the crude oil exported from the United States is produced in the United States because some of the exported crude oil may originally have been imported from other countries, placed in storage, and then re-exported. The United States also produces and exports petroleum products, but EIA is unable to precisely track how much of these petroleum exports are made from domestically produced or imported crude oil. Also, some of U.S. crude oil exports are refined into petroleum products in other countries, which may be exported back to, and consumed in, the United States. EIA’s data for 2023 indicates that U.S. total petroleum production averaged about 21.691 million barrels per day (b/d), which included: Total U.S. petroleum consumption (reported as product supplied ) averaged about 20.246 million b/d in 2023. The difference between petroleum consumption and production is mainly composed of net imports (imports minus exports) of petroleum and changes in petroleum inventories (stocks). Learn more: How much oil is consumed in the United States? How much petroleum does the United States import and export? Monthly Energy Review , Table 3.1: Petroleum Overview U.S. Petroleum Supply and Disposition Energy Explained: Oil and petroleum products Last updated: March 29, 2024, with preliminary monthly data for 2023 from the Monthly Energy Review , March 2024. Other FAQs about Oil/Petroleum When was the last refinery built in the United States? Does EIA have data on the movement (transport) of crude oil, petroleum products, fuel ethanol, and biodiesel by rail? What do I pay for in a gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel? How much coal, natural gas, or petroleum is used to generate a kilowatthour of electricity? What is the outlook for home heating fuel prices this winter? Does EIA have data on U.S. oil refineries and their locations? Does EIA have information on U.S. natural gas and oil pipelines? How much oil is consumed in the United States? How much oil is used to make plastic? What types and amounts of energy are produced in each state? How much shale (tight) oil is produced in the United States? What is the difference between crude oil, petroleum products, and petroleum? What are petroleum products, and what is petro
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=268&t=6
Round that off to 20 megabarrels a day. 159 liters per barrel so thats 3179.75 mega liters a day.
Now what if lake superior was the only source of liquid fuel in the americas. And we assume that lake superior is an isolated body of liquid. No liquid coming in or out.
lake superior =3 quadrillion gallons or 300,000,0000 mega gallons or 11,356,235,352 megaliters
11,356,235,352 / 3179.75 = 3571423.96478 days or 9784.72 years
Hey not bad. Almost 1000 years worth of fuel if you add a smaller lake to lake superior.
For comparison, america uses 322 billion gallons of water per day or 1,218,900 megaliters/day. 383 times the amount of oil
posted on 12/6/24
Yeeeesh ignore that long block
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
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Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
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I’m pretty comfortable with it, yes. Depends what you define as long-term? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years?
I don’t think the first two would be a problem and by then we’ll either be dead or have a very different energy production system by then.
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11 cities are predicted to run out of water. One of which is London, which could see problems as early as 2025 and serious shortages by 2040.
Water supply is a genuine issue around the world and adding more demand is likely to have a very real effect quite quickly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-42982959
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
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Possibly I suppose but reading the reports it sounds like he was making the point that his family had to make sacrifices for his education, so was then asked what these sacrifices were, to which his reply was not having Sky TV.
I can emphasise feeling like you've missed out on something others have, but I'm also not sure I'd call not having Sky TV in the early 90s as a sacrifice.
posted on 12/6/24
This the same young guy that said he had "aristocratic friends, upper class friends, working. .no, no working class friends" yeah?
posted on 12/6/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
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Possibly I suppose but reading the reports it sounds like he was making the point that his family had to make sacrifices for his education, so was then asked what these sacrifices were, to which his reply was not having Sky TV.
I can emphasise feeling like you've missed out on something others have, but I'm also not sure I'd call not having Sky TV in the early 90s as a sacrifice.
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The guy is a PR disaster for the Tories. He just cant helphimself with everything he does or says atm.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Rishi Sunak has said that he went without “lots of things” as a child growing up in the UK, citing Sky TV as an example.
In an interview with ITV to be broadcast on Wednesday, the prime minister said a lot of sacrifices were made by his parents as education was their priority.
Pressed to give an example of something that he grew up without, Sunak said: “There’ll be all sorts of things that I would’ve wanted as a kid that I couldn’t have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually.”
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You'd think he'd just own the fact he had a good start in life at this point rather than try and make out he can connect with the common man because he didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s.
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Is it not likely that he was asked a question about it and he’s just answered it? There’s enough to judge him on and criticise him but I don’t think this is it.
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Possibly I suppose but reading the reports it sounds like he was making the point that his family had to make sacrifices for his education, so was then asked what these sacrifices were, to which his reply was not having Sky TV.
I can emphasise feeling like you've missed out on something others have, but I'm also not sure I'd call not having Sky TV in the early 90s as a sacrifice.
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The guy is a PR disaster for the Tories. He just cant helphimself with everything he does or says atm.
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He'd have a better chance if he stayed off telly and social from now until July 5th. Watch the polls go up.
posted on 12/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to humankind (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.riazor.org/news/water-car-end-gasoline/608/
If the Israel company should release this car commercially they'd ruin the fossil fuel industry and basically take out all their enemies that rely on oil overnight.
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What would be the impact on water supply if everyone was driving water powered vehicles? Is there potential that it could have a more negative impact than fossil fuels on the environment?
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Not for a very, very long time. Even then it produces water as a byproduct so….
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Do you know that for sure though?
To fuel the number of cars on the road today with the tank size listed in that article, you would need over 10 billion litres of water. This is close to the amount of water consumed per day in the UK. So you are effectively taking a days worth of water consumption out of circulation and could effectively double demand on water system that are already struggling.
That just if they can be fueled by tap water, which i imagine will be unfavourable due to maintenance of the vehicle. If it needs to be deionised water, then you are looking at even more water being taken out of circulation and companies being set up to produce. You'll also have concerns about concentrated impure water being sent out in these places.
I don't think this is as simple a solution in the long term as people want it to be.
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I’m pretty comfortable with it, yes. Depends what you define as long-term? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years?
I don’t think the first two would be a problem and by then we’ll either be dead or have a very different energy production system by then.
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11 cities are predicted to run out of water. One of which is London, which could see problems as early as 2025 and serious shortages by 2040.
Water supply is a genuine issue around the world and adding more demand is likely to have a very real effect quite quickly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-42982959
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Desalination costs have dropped a lot. Water isn’t a problem. Birth rates are a much bigger and immediate threat for many countries.
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