I'd also say there's little risk in what he's currently doing because his companies have now claimed almost $5Bn in subsidiaries from the government.

When he first bought out Tesla, that was risky to be fair.

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’m not talking about Musk the billionaire, I’m talking about Musk turning thoughts into things with an uncompromising attitude that leads to him getting stuff over the line. People thought about brain chips, he made them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it not more about him saying things like ' i want brain chips' then basically finding/ paying some really smart people to make it happen? I don't think he's actually made anything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s about him putting together teams to make it happen, often in the face of andversity, and people like that are exceptionally rare.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They aren’t, Robbing. They really, really aren’t.

There are thousands of examples of equally and more impressive achievements in the public and private sectors across industries, very often without any singular inspirational, controlling or maverick figurehead. We didn’t need a Musk to put a man in space or on the moon; we didn’t need one to develop radiotherapy or chemotherapy; we didn’t need one to build the channel tunnel; we didn’t need one to deliver multiple COVID vaccines in a matter of months; we didn’t need one to deliver GPS, or the internet, or Kevlar, or solar energy, or pyrex, or credit cards, or Silicon Valley…

Musk, throughout his entire career, has overblown his influence and personal accomplishments as far as technological development are concerned. What he has done very well, and can claim a great deal of credit for, is spotted very particular kinds of opportunities, invested well, sold them to other investors spectacularly well (including the US govt, which has handed him hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayers’ money), and then rinsed those opportunities hard, sometimes successfully, others not so much. Where he has decided to get his hands dirty rather than sit off and let others manage his business investments, he has variously fallen out with his fellow investors and board members, been embarrassed by and fallen out with his technical leads, been accused of bullying and an abysmal treatment of staff, and cost his businesses money.

What he is is a very, very talented and accomplished venture capitalist and salesman. What he is not, contrary to his claims, is an ideas man, an inventor, or a tech genius.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don’t necessarily disagree, but at the same time why haven’t people, and apparently there are loads of them, brought these things to market that Musk has then? And even if there are so many of them (and I’m not sure there really are in terms of gravitas of achievement), how does that denigrate his achievements. To my mind they don’t.

That’s a genuine question. The medical applications of Neuralink are vast, and could make a genuine, tangible benefit to the world.

I also don’t think securing grants is in anyway a negative. So what? There’s a reason he gets invested in and it’s not nepotism, so how is that a negative?

Brain-computer interfaces were invented in the 1970s (by DARPA, with public funding). They’ve been implanted in humans for 30 or so years, and myriad research teams around the world have been developing the tech (primarily, again, in the public sector) for use in myriad applications, very successfully, since then.

Neuralink is one such company. You’ve heard of it, and repeatedly about its exploits, and not remotely as much of or about its public and private sector counterparts and competitors, because it is an Elon Musk company. That’s literally the sole reason.

NEW: The Tories are expecting a "drip of resignations" after the leadership contest as up to 12 Tory MPs consider resigning over Labour's crackdown on second jobs

[@thetimes]

Well well..

A quick skim of the Wiki article on BCIs (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain%E2%80%93computer_interface) and I see one mention of Neuralink, which notes they’ve managed to implant successfully in a pig and in rhesus monkeys, something which other researchers, as pointed out in the article, managed almost 20 years ago.

(Many, many) other research institutes are mentioned, and some repeatedly.

Again, credit to Musk: he’s a generational talent of a salesman; he's leveraged his brand/personality cult superbly. But from what I understand, Neuralink doesn’t remotely stand out from the crowd.

*tech-wise

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brain-computer interfaces were invented in the 1970s (by DARPA, with public funding). They’ve been implanted in humans for 30 or so years, and myriad research teams around the world have been developing the tech (primarily, again, in the public sector) for use in myriad applications, very successfully, since then.

Neuralink is one such company. You’ve heard of it, and repeatedly about its exploits, and not remotely as much of or about its public and private sector counterparts and competitors, because it is an Elon Musk company. That’s literally the sole reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not the sole reason Rosso, the main reason is that it exists in the first place.

They’ve also developed a robot to implant it, a first that cuts out human error.

Sure, there are other companies, but his chip still went some way to curing a man’s paralysis and I really don’t see how that’s a bad thing and tbh, you’re dismissing it, almost trying to make out that’s nothing and everyone is at it.

They’re not, it’s cutting edge technology being brought to market whether people like that or not.

comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 13 minutes ago
NEW: The Tories are expecting a "drip of resignations" after the leadership contest as up to 12 Tory MPs consider resigning over Labour's crackdown on second jobs

[@thetimes]

Well well..
----------------------------------------------------------------------

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brain-computer interfaces were invented in the 1970s (by DARPA, with public funding). They’ve been implanted in humans for 30 or so years, and myriad research teams around the world have been developing the tech (primarily, again, in the public sector) for use in myriad applications, very successfully, since then.

Neuralink is one such company. You’ve heard of it, and repeatedly about its exploits, and not remotely as much of or about its public and private sector counterparts and competitors, because it is an Elon Musk company. That’s literally the sole reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not the sole reason Rosso, the main reason is that it exists in the first place.

They’ve also developed a robot to implant it, a first that cuts out human error.

Sure, there are other companies, but his chip still went some way to curing a man’s paralysis and I really don’t see how that’s a bad thing and tbh, you’re dismissing it, almost trying to make out that’s nothing and everyone is at it.

They’re not, it’s cutting edge technology being brought to market whether people like that or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m delighted for that one man. And the others who will follow.

If you read what Musk (not his co-founders) has said most frequently about Neuralink, though, you’ll get a better idea of what he’s interested in ultimately achieving with the technology: “web-browsing” and “telepathic” communication.

Unsurprisingly, he isn’t in this for the good of the common man. Like literally everything else he does, it’s ultimately about some form of commerce which will serve him.

Which might explain who is now running the company. Nine people founded Neuralink: Musk, a chief engineer, and seven leading neuroscience researchers. Guess how many of those seven neuroscientists still work with him…

Weighing it all up, for me, he’s facking evil incarnate in human form.

I’d love to have my mind changed on that, and I might start to if I ever see a single thing he does for someone other than himself, or even generally not diametrically opposed to the interests of those whose labours he’s exploited.

Fack him, fack his platforming of neo-Nazzis, fack his treatment of his own children, fack his $200m support for a sex-offending soft fascist, fack his union busting, fack him laughing about sacking his own workers, fack his slandering a straight up hero as a paedophile, fack his amplifying dangerous disinformation, fack his demonisation of immigrants, and fack him again.

Yep, there’s a good chance that he’s a piece of shiiiiiiiiiiit, in fact I’ll go as far to say he is.

But he’s still brought those things to market and for me, that’s important.

History is littered with high achievers that are absolute wrong uns unfortunately.

His greatest strength is his marketing because there are other companies out there doing what his companies are doing, and some I'd argue are doing it better, but they don't have the sheer force of attention that he can generate.

Tesla's stock being worth more than multiple car manufacturers combined despite being dwarfed revenue wise for 99% of its life as an example.

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
Brain-computer interfaces were invented in the 1970s (by DARPA, with public funding). They’ve been implanted in humans for 30 or so years, and myriad research teams around the world have been developing the tech (primarily, again, in the public sector) for use in myriad applications, very successfully, since then.

Neuralink is one such company. You’ve heard of it, and repeatedly about its exploits, and not remotely as much of or about its public and private sector counterparts and competitors, because it is an Elon Musk company. That’s literally the sole reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not the sole reason Rosso, the main reason is that it exists in the first place.

They’ve also developed a robot to implant it, a first that cuts out human error.

Sure, there are other companies, but his chip still went some way to curing a man’s paralysis and I really don’t see how that’s a bad thing and tbh, you’re dismissing it, almost trying to make out that’s nothing and everyone is at it.

They’re not, it’s cutting edge technology being brought to market whether people like that or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m delighted for that one man. And the others who will follow.

If you read what Musk (not his co-founders) has said most frequently about Neuralink, though, you’ll get a better idea of what he’s interested in ultimately achieving with the technology: “web-browsing” and “telepathic” communication.

Unsurprisingly, he isn’t in this for the good of the common man. Like literally everything else he does, it’s ultimately about some form of commerce which will serve him.

Which might explain who is now running the company. Nine people founded Neuralink: Musk, a chief engineer, and seven leading neuroscience researchers. Guess how many of those seven neuroscientists still work with him…

Weighing it all up, for me, he’s facking evil incarnate in human form.

I’d love to have my mind changed on that, and I might start to if I ever see a single thing he does for someone other than himself, or even generally not diametrically opposed to the interests of those whose labours he’s exploited.

Fack him, fack his platforming of neo-Nazzis, fack his treatment of his own children, fack his $200m support for a sex-offending soft fascist, fack his union busting, fack him laughing about sacking his own workers, fack his slandering a straight up hero as a paedophile, fack his amplifying dangerous disinformation, fack his demonisation of immigrants, and fack him again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So besides all that he’s a stand up guy yes?

Imagine this is actually the election result in November

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1845839885493547162?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 12 minutes ago
Imagine this is actually the election result in November

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1845839885493547162?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
🤬🥵

Think SoQ just came

comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 30 minutes ago
Imagine this is actually the election result in November

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1845839885493547162?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The electoral college system is as spectacularly stupid and undemocratic as FPTP.

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 30 minutes ago
Imagine this is actually the election result in November

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1845839885493547162?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The electoral college system is as spectacularly stupid and undemocratic as FPTP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t get why some states have more points than the others, and who the fack decided it

I'd say the electoral college is worse than our FPTP even though they're exactly the same

*I'd argue our constituency based system is better than their electoral college even though they're both FPTP

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
*I'd argue our constituency based system is better than their electoral college even though they're both FPTP


----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well US Representatives sit in single member congressional districts, so they aren’t too different from Commons MPs.

The old argument of, “FPTP gives you constituency champions,” doesn’t hold any water any more anyway: very few MPs are actually from the constituencies they represent, and many have never even lived in them nowadays.

There’s no reason why PR can’t (and it does here in PT, for example, to a fair extent anyway) deliver you constituency representatives.

Rachel Reeves refuses to rule out increasing employer national insurance contribs...

"We were really clear in our manifesto that we weren’t going to increase the key taxes paid by working people, income tax, national insurance and VAT...

"We will stick to the commitments we made in our manifesto. But you know there is a £22bn black hole over and above anything we knew about going into the election that we need to fill, and that’s not just a one year, that persists throughout the forecast period."

comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 30 minutes ago
Imagine this is actually the election result in November

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1845839885493547162?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The electoral college system is as spectacularly stupid and undemocratic as FPTP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t get why some states have more points than the others, and who the fack decided it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Population. Worse the E.C. is the fact that California has more people than about 20 off mid-western states combined but only gets 2 senators. The same as every state. Bent as bent can be.

it’s a pretty crap system

Worse "than"*

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
*I'd argue our constituency based system is better than their electoral college even though they're both FPTP


----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well US Representatives sit in single member congressional districts, so they aren’t too different from Commons MPs.

The old argument of, “FPTP gives you constituency champions,” doesn’t hold any water any more anyway: very few MPs are actually from the constituencies they represent, and many have never even lived in them nowadays.

There’s no reason why PR can’t (and it does here in PT, for example, to a fair extent anyway) deliver you constituency representatives.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair but that's not why I'd argue ours is less bad

Our constituencies are just 80,000 people and we have far more undecided constituencies than America does swing states

It's not that our outdated system is better it's just that because we're a smaller country there are far less wasted votes and more people's vote, percentage wise, matters