posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
My eyes have been open to the naive assumptions I had of minorities. That they being minorities would want to help other minorities but this election specifically has taught me that many of them are very much ‘pull the ladder up once they’ve made it’ types. Watching a Latino online saying his parents came from Cuba and the second they got settled in Miami they were very much anti ‘more Latinos’ coming into the country.
And that kind of ‘I’m alright jack’ mentality was an assumption the Democrats had thinking minorities would help. We see here in Australia come indigenous people act in the worst interests of their people by becoming right wingers - re Jacinta Price and in England the many Tory examples.
So yeah, I think the worst thing you can call some people is a minority as what they really want is to be accepted in their new country even if it means acting in the interest of those they most have kinship with
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People, wherever they come from, are a mixed bag. Who knew.
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 23 minutes ago
Oh come on
And who's fault was it that Corbyn and Foot "weren't given the opportunity" to govern?
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I don't know about Foot, but Corbyn had the party's entire Westminster apparatus and vast swathes of the main left-leaning media against him pretty much from day one.
You could argue it was his fault for not getting them onside, but how much of the actual left-wing principles and supporters that voted him in would he have had to betray?
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't really see the presidential election as anything other than a gameshow tbh, to a lot of Americans, they voted for Trump because he was more entertaining to watch.
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This..the whole of America just seems like a ongoing TV show imo...
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Isn't this partly what we make of it though?
We love stereotyping the Yanks, and in that regard, Trump makes for a near-perfect pantomime villain.
We mostly witness their reality through a computer/tv/phone screen and have much less exposure to whatever the current debates are in their public arenas.
And it's also a bit of a national pastime to depict them all as idiots.
Given how the far right is growing in Europe too, we could probably do worse than to question our own preconceptions.
I don't think we're any better, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage we just do things on a smaller scale.
Yes I think we have a large percentage of stupid people
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posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
My eyes have been open to the naive assumptions I had of minorities. That they being minorities would want to help other minorities but this election specifically has taught me that many of them are very much ‘pull the ladder up once they’ve made it’ types. Watching a Latino online saying his parents came from Cuba and the second they got settled in Miami they were very much anti ‘more Latinos’ coming into the country.
And that kind of ‘I’m alright jack’ mentality was an assumption the Democrats had thinking minorities would help. We see here in Australia come indigenous people act in the worst interests of their people by becoming right wingers - re Jacinta Price and in England the many Tory examples.
So yeah, I think the worst thing you can call some people is a minority as what they really want is to be accepted in their new country even if it means acting in the interest of those they most have kinship with
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People, wherever they come from, are a mixed bag. Who knew.
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 23 minutes ago
Oh come on
And who's fault was it that Corbyn and Foot "weren't given the opportunity" to govern?
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I don't know about Foot, but Corbyn had the party's entire Westminster apparatus and vast swathes of the main left-leaning media against him pretty much from day one.
You could argue it was his fault for not getting them onside, but how much of the actual left-wing principles and supporters that voted him in would he have had to betray?
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't really see the presidential election as anything other than a gameshow tbh, to a lot of Americans, they voted for Trump because he was more entertaining to watch.
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This..the whole of America just seems like a ongoing TV show imo...
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Isn't this partly what we make of it though?
We love stereotyping the Yanks, and in that regard, Trump makes for a near-perfect pantomime villain.
We mostly witness their reality through a computer/tv/phone screen and have much less exposure to whatever the current debates are in their public arenas.
And it's also a bit of a national pastime to depict them all as idiots.
Given how the far right is growing in Europe too, we could probably do worse than to question our own preconceptions.
posted 58 minutes ago
I don't think we're any better, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage we just do things on a smaller scale.
Yes I think we have a large percentage of stupid people
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