posted 5 hours, 59 minutes ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
posted 5 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
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Not quite Hector. Starts at £1m for land and building assets but then you can add on the necessary equipment and then double it if it joined owned (husband and wife); so the real starting point is nearer £3m.
The issue is the value of land at an average of £10k an acre means that very small farms are now “caught” in the net. As an average (I’ve read) their “profit” is the low tens of thousands providing weather and buying volumes work for them.
The cost of machinery and upkeep is phenomenal for a “business” that size. These are not businesses designed to make money at this scale. They are a way of life and between them supply up to 60% of our own home grown food.
The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m so taxation (at best) is some £1m at 20%. So unless the land is sold off, it’s almost impossible for them to pay the bill of £200,000 in the 10 years they have to pay. They just don’t earn that kind of money, so they have to sell part of it off.
In turn that makes it less viable and due to sell offs the land value decreases. It’s a vicious cycle.
So if we are prepared to see these small farms gradually disappear, then that’s what will inevitably happen.
My point was more sit down and at least agree the numbers for starting base point because the figures don’t add up between different groups and the government. Then settle on a decent starting base for taxation.
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Oh Rachel.
You little fibber
Seems you’re not the economic analyst you claimed to be on your CV to get the job as MP after all.
And it’s starting to show.
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
posted 4 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
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Not quite Hector. Starts at £1m for land and building assets but then you can add on the necessary equipment and then double it if it joined owned (husband and wife); so the real starting point is nearer £3m.
The issue is the value of land at an average of £10k an acre means that very small farms are now “caught” in the net. As an average (I’ve read) their “profit” is the low tens of thousands providing weather and buying volumes work for them.
The cost of machinery and upkeep is phenomenal for a “business” that size. These are not businesses designed to make money at this scale. They are a way of life and between them supply up to 60% of our own home grown food.
The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m so taxation (at best) is some £1m at 20%. So unless the land is sold off, it’s almost impossible for them to pay the bill of £200,000 in the 10 years they have to pay. They just don’t earn that kind of money, so they have to sell part of it off.
In turn that makes it less viable and due to sell offs the land value decreases. It’s a vicious cycle.
So if we are prepared to see these small farms gradually disappear, then that’s what will inevitably happen.
My point was more sit down and at least agree the numbers for starting base point because the figures don’t add up between different groups and the government. Then settle on a decent starting base for taxation.
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“The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m”
Where did you get that figure from? HMRC reported that in 2021/22 (those are the latest figures I’ve seen), for tax purposes, only 7% of farms passed on for inheritance were valued at more than £3m.
posted 4 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
posted 4 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
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Not quite Hector. Starts at £1m for land and building assets but then you can add on the necessary equipment and then double it if it joined owned (husband and wife); so the real starting point is nearer £3m.
The issue is the value of land at an average of £10k an acre means that very small farms are now “caught” in the net. As an average (I’ve read) their “profit” is the low tens of thousands providing weather and buying volumes work for them.
The cost of machinery and upkeep is phenomenal for a “business” that size. These are not businesses designed to make money at this scale. They are a way of life and between them supply up to 60% of our own home grown food.
The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m so taxation (at best) is some £1m at 20%. So unless the land is sold off, it’s almost impossible for them to pay the bill of £200,000 in the 10 years they have to pay. They just don’t earn that kind of money, so they have to sell part of it off.
In turn that makes it less viable and due to sell offs the land value decreases. It’s a vicious cycle.
So if we are prepared to see these small farms gradually disappear, then that’s what will inevitably happen.
My point was more sit down and at least agree the numbers for starting base point because the figures don’t add up between different groups and the government. Then settle on a decent starting base for taxation.
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“The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m”
Where did you get that figure from? HMRC reported that in 2021/22 (those are the latest figures I’ve seen), for tax purposes, only 7% of farms passed on for inheritance were valued at more than £3m.
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Just read it from various bit and pieces and interviews on radio. But that’s my issue here. I don’t have a problem with the tax per se. My issue is that they can’t even agree who it affects and how. The government is simply not interested in any discussion.
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
posted 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Ouch.
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Ouch.
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I know. Hilarious eh?
Pressure grows on Rachel Reeves to explain ‘fake claims’ on CV
https://www.thetimes.com/article/10919a59-aa6f-4b0e-aa56-9a9c2c41a3b2?shareToken=a01eeac9808470cca654135c569dc035
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posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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She has changed her role from 2006-2009 from economist to retail banking
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posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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She has changed her role from 2006-2009 from economist to retail banking
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Completely missing the implications of the different job roles and responsibilities. Then there’s the downright fabrication of course.
Not sure why everyone seems to be giggling away at this either. Hey ho. Seems like head in sand stuff.
Any comments on her previous embarrassing plagiarism?
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Ouch.
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I know. Hilarious eh?
Pressure grows on Rachel Reeves to explain ‘fake claims’ on CV
https://www.thetimes.com/article/10919a59-aa6f-4b0e-aa56-9a9c2c41a3b2?shareToken=a01eeac9808470cca654135c569dc035
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This matter is crucial. The fate of the UK rests on a pinhead as we await for this explanation.
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-18/resolute-mining-to-pay-mali-government-after-executives-detained/104614270
Take all the gold and don't pay tax.
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Mountain collapse in Congo reveals tonnes of copper, netizens say ‘hope Brits won’t come and steal’
A mountain collapse in Katanga, DRC, unveiled large copper reserves. While the region is vital for copper mining, concerns arise over forced evictions and human rights abuses linked to mining expansion.
https://www.livemint.com/news/mountain-collapse-in-congo-reveals-tonnes-of-copper-netizens-say-hope-brits-wont-come-and-steal-11731835011706.html
They'll never let you keep that wealth.
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
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posted about 2 hours ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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I'm not defending Reeves, just saying no, imo, credible outlet is saying she lied.
Do I think the Times, run by Brooks and owned by Murdoch, would lie, yes I do,
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
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posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 2 hours ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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I'm not defending Reeves, just saying no, imo, credible outlet is saying she lied.
Do I think the Times, run by Brooks and owned by Murdoch, would lie, yes I do,
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Entitled to your belief.
The fact her team admits it suggests she did lie. Not once, but on a few points. You don’t make “mistakes” like that when writing up your CV. Give why she’s under prsssure to explain.
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
I've been in her linkedin, it just says Retail Banking for Halifax
Wouldn't be the first time Ginger that you've gotten all excited by a gotcha in the right wing press
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
I've been in her linkedin, it just says Retail Banking for Halifax
Wouldn't be the first time Ginger that you've gotten all excited by a gotcha in the right wing press
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I know. That’s the script after it being changed from “analyst”. Mentioned that earlier.
You happy for the chancellor to have been shown to have lied to help get a job, and for those lies intimating she has significant financial experience in analysis when it was in fact junior roles in retail and IT? Also lying about her length of relevant experience?
Hmmm
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
How did she lie?
Who is accusing her of lying (not the right wing press who are doing everything they can not to outright say that)?
I answer to your question, I couldn't care less if she embellished her CV, haven't met anyone in Finance who hasn't
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
How did she lie?
Who is accusing her of lying (not the right wing press who are doing everything they can not to outright say that)?
I answer to your question, I couldn't care less if she embellished her CV, haven't met anyone in Finance who hasn't
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Just read the article posted earlier. I’ve a feeling however you’ll just dismiss it out of hand because it doesn’t suit.
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Ah. Just noticed your last comment. You knew people in finance who lied on their CV’s do you? In fact you intimate that you don’t know anyone who doesn’t.
Well let me just say that anyone who lied on their CV in our markets and embellished it to get a job would be gone in a heartbeat.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
How did she lie?
Who is accusing her of lying (not the right wing press who are doing everything they can not to outright say that)?
I answer to your question, I couldn't care less if she embellished her CV, haven't met anyone in Finance who hasn't
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Just read the article posted earlier. I’ve a feeling however you’ll just dismiss it out of hand because it doesn’t suit.
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I've read it, it just says that Guido and her political opponents have accused her of stuff
If the Times believed she was lying and could prove it theyd just outright say it rather than do the whole "sources say" cop out. Until they're ready to do that I don't view the article as having any merit
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posted 5 hours, 59 minutes ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
posted 5 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
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Not quite Hector. Starts at £1m for land and building assets but then you can add on the necessary equipment and then double it if it joined owned (husband and wife); so the real starting point is nearer £3m.
The issue is the value of land at an average of £10k an acre means that very small farms are now “caught” in the net. As an average (I’ve read) their “profit” is the low tens of thousands providing weather and buying volumes work for them.
The cost of machinery and upkeep is phenomenal for a “business” that size. These are not businesses designed to make money at this scale. They are a way of life and between them supply up to 60% of our own home grown food.
The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m so taxation (at best) is some £1m at 20%. So unless the land is sold off, it’s almost impossible for them to pay the bill of £200,000 in the 10 years they have to pay. They just don’t earn that kind of money, so they have to sell part of it off.
In turn that makes it less viable and due to sell offs the land value decreases. It’s a vicious cycle.
So if we are prepared to see these small farms gradually disappear, then that’s what will inevitably happen.
My point was more sit down and at least agree the numbers for starting base point because the figures don’t add up between different groups and the government. Then settle on a decent starting base for taxation.
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Oh Rachel.
You little fibber
Seems you’re not the economic analyst you claimed to be on your CV to get the job as MP after all.
And it’s starting to show.
posted 5 hours ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
posted 4 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
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Not quite Hector. Starts at £1m for land and building assets but then you can add on the necessary equipment and then double it if it joined owned (husband and wife); so the real starting point is nearer £3m.
The issue is the value of land at an average of £10k an acre means that very small farms are now “caught” in the net. As an average (I’ve read) their “profit” is the low tens of thousands providing weather and buying volumes work for them.
The cost of machinery and upkeep is phenomenal for a “business” that size. These are not businesses designed to make money at this scale. They are a way of life and between them supply up to 60% of our own home grown food.
The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m so taxation (at best) is some £1m at 20%. So unless the land is sold off, it’s almost impossible for them to pay the bill of £200,000 in the 10 years they have to pay. They just don’t earn that kind of money, so they have to sell part of it off.
In turn that makes it less viable and due to sell offs the land value decreases. It’s a vicious cycle.
So if we are prepared to see these small farms gradually disappear, then that’s what will inevitably happen.
My point was more sit down and at least agree the numbers for starting base point because the figures don’t add up between different groups and the government. Then settle on a decent starting base for taxation.
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“The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m”
Where did you get that figure from? HMRC reported that in 2021/22 (those are the latest figures I’ve seen), for tax purposes, only 7% of farms passed on for inheritance were valued at more than £3m.
posted 4 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
posted 4 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Have I got it right? farmers who have land worth more than £1m and who want to pass it on in their will will be taxed at 20%, which is half the usual inheritance tax rate.
I'd imagine their are lots of business owners who want to hand over their businesses to their children would prefer the 20% over what they're having to pay
Farmers threatening to withhold stock from supermarkets are kamikaze lunatics, do that and their business.is gone.
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Not quite Hector. Starts at £1m for land and building assets but then you can add on the necessary equipment and then double it if it joined owned (husband and wife); so the real starting point is nearer £3m.
The issue is the value of land at an average of £10k an acre means that very small farms are now “caught” in the net. As an average (I’ve read) their “profit” is the low tens of thousands providing weather and buying volumes work for them.
The cost of machinery and upkeep is phenomenal for a “business” that size. These are not businesses designed to make money at this scale. They are a way of life and between them supply up to 60% of our own home grown food.
The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m so taxation (at best) is some £1m at 20%. So unless the land is sold off, it’s almost impossible for them to pay the bill of £200,000 in the 10 years they have to pay. They just don’t earn that kind of money, so they have to sell part of it off.
In turn that makes it less viable and due to sell offs the land value decreases. It’s a vicious cycle.
So if we are prepared to see these small farms gradually disappear, then that’s what will inevitably happen.
My point was more sit down and at least agree the numbers for starting base point because the figures don’t add up between different groups and the government. Then settle on a decent starting base for taxation.
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“The average small farm holding is valued all in at between £4-5m”
Where did you get that figure from? HMRC reported that in 2021/22 (those are the latest figures I’ve seen), for tax purposes, only 7% of farms passed on for inheritance were valued at more than £3m.
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Just read it from various bit and pieces and interviews on radio. But that’s my issue here. I don’t have a problem with the tax per se. My issue is that they can’t even agree who it affects and how. The government is simply not interested in any discussion.
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
posted 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Ouch.
posted 4 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
posted 4 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Ouch.
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I know. Hilarious eh?
Pressure grows on Rachel Reeves to explain ‘fake claims’ on CV
https://www.thetimes.com/article/10919a59-aa6f-4b0e-aa56-9a9c2c41a3b2?shareToken=a01eeac9808470cca654135c569dc035
posted 4 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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She has changed her role from 2006-2009 from economist to retail banking
posted 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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She has changed her role from 2006-2009 from economist to retail banking
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Completely missing the implications of the different job roles and responsibilities. Then there’s the downright fabrication of course.
Not sure why everyone seems to be giggling away at this either. Hey ho. Seems like head in sand stuff.
Any comments on her previous embarrassing plagiarism?
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Ouch.
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I know. Hilarious eh?
Pressure grows on Rachel Reeves to explain ‘fake claims’ on CV
https://www.thetimes.com/article/10919a59-aa6f-4b0e-aa56-9a9c2c41a3b2?shareToken=a01eeac9808470cca654135c569dc035
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This matter is crucial. The fate of the UK rests on a pinhead as we await for this explanation.
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-18/resolute-mining-to-pay-mali-government-after-executives-detained/104614270
Take all the gold and don't pay tax.
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Mountain collapse in Congo reveals tonnes of copper, netizens say ‘hope Brits won’t come and steal’
A mountain collapse in Katanga, DRC, unveiled large copper reserves. While the region is vital for copper mining, concerns arise over forced evictions and human rights abuses linked to mining expansion.
https://www.livemint.com/news/mountain-collapse-in-congo-reveals-tonnes-of-copper-netizens-say-hope-brits-wont-come-and-steal-11731835011706.html
They'll never let you keep that wealth.
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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I'm not defending Reeves, just saying no, imo, credible outlet is saying she lied.
Do I think the Times, run by Brooks and owned by Murdoch, would lie, yes I do,
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Notice how it's only the Tory press reporting this and they only have the guts to put the accusation in quotation marks or say she is accused of it
They must know it's political bollox if theyve made the decision to not say it directly
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I just went looking to see what that was all about and thought the same.
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It’s factual for goodness sakes. They’ve even acknowledged it themselves and had her change her details on LinkedIn.
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Says who? You have your trusted sources I have.mine and it doesn't.include Guido fox, GB news or the Telegraph.
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Says her support team. You think The Times have printed a bare faced lie?
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I'm not defending Reeves, just saying no, imo, credible outlet is saying she lied.
Do I think the Times, run by Brooks and owned by Murdoch, would lie, yes I do,
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Entitled to your belief.
The fact her team admits it suggests she did lie. Not once, but on a few points. You don’t make “mistakes” like that when writing up your CV. Give why she’s under prsssure to explain.
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
I've been in her linkedin, it just says Retail Banking for Halifax
Wouldn't be the first time Ginger that you've gotten all excited by a gotcha in the right wing press
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
I've been in her linkedin, it just says Retail Banking for Halifax
Wouldn't be the first time Ginger that you've gotten all excited by a gotcha in the right wing press
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I know. That’s the script after it being changed from “analyst”. Mentioned that earlier.
You happy for the chancellor to have been shown to have lied to help get a job, and for those lies intimating she has significant financial experience in analysis when it was in fact junior roles in retail and IT? Also lying about her length of relevant experience?
Hmmm
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
How did she lie?
Who is accusing her of lying (not the right wing press who are doing everything they can not to outright say that)?
I answer to your question, I couldn't care less if she embellished her CV, haven't met anyone in Finance who hasn't
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
How did she lie?
Who is accusing her of lying (not the right wing press who are doing everything they can not to outright say that)?
I answer to your question, I couldn't care less if she embellished her CV, haven't met anyone in Finance who hasn't
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Just read the article posted earlier. I’ve a feeling however you’ll just dismiss it out of hand because it doesn’t suit.
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Ah. Just noticed your last comment. You knew people in finance who lied on their CV’s do you? In fact you intimate that you don’t know anyone who doesn’t.
Well let me just say that anyone who lied on their CV in our markets and embellished it to get a job would be gone in a heartbeat.
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
How did she lie?
Who is accusing her of lying (not the right wing press who are doing everything they can not to outright say that)?
I answer to your question, I couldn't care less if she embellished her CV, haven't met anyone in Finance who hasn't
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Just read the article posted earlier. I’ve a feeling however you’ll just dismiss it out of hand because it doesn’t suit.
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I've read it, it just says that Guido and her political opponents have accused her of stuff
If the Times believed she was lying and could prove it theyd just outright say it rather than do the whole "sources say" cop out. Until they're ready to do that I don't view the article as having any merit
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