Calm down 55, it's only October
But yes, I share your excitement for what's happening at Wolves
lol sod it !!!!!!! We have not had anything to shout about for years!
Plus come Jan uncle Mendes will bring us more gifts like a step dad trying to win over his new kids!!!!!
Hazar for Wolves Hazar I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said, Wolves55. Some great performances last night.
Surely Norris will be pushing Ruddy for a start in the league very soon (although his distribution is patchy).
Batth and Bennett were immense. Coady is surely a better leader than Batth and I don't think there was a shot of him when he wasn't yelling instructions to people.
The midfielders worker their socks off. Costa had a decent outing but is clearly not as sharp as last season, but that's coming.
Even the subs did great.
Although some won't like the term, that was the epitome of "putting a shift in".
Nuno had them organised from the outset and he really wanted to win that game.
The fans too were magnificent, out-singing City all the way through.
Pity it's all over and for those who say the League Cup doesn't matter; well it mattered to Wolves and their fans last night.
I went to bed last night after the penalty shootout and said to the wife that I had never felt so happy after a Wolves defeat. Actually I suppose it wasn't happiness I was feeling but pride. I think the lads performed beyond everyone's expectations - certainly mine and the ungracious Guardiola was looking the more worried of the two coaches during the game. We were certainly looking the more likely to score in the second half, maybe that's why he brought on his £50 million rated, England international full back.
If Eno could just have finished off one of his 3 one on ones it might have been a different outcome and the pride would have been mixed with jubilation this morning.
As an aside, with the total absence of Michal Zyro from last night's squad I suspect that we have seen the last of him. A pity as I have always felt that he is the better footballer out of him and Marshall. Nuno it seems, does not agree with me.
City fan here. Only Bravo kept us in it last night.
It was an enjoyable, if stressful, game. Well played. Thought your defence and especially your keeper were excellent.
I really did enjoy the game it was a cracker
For a goalless draw it was still a really decent game
Think we are very fortunate to be in the hat today,would've had no complaints if we'd gone out
I think Zyro is a really good player but is struggling to get his sharpness back after his long lay off. Costa also at the moment isn’t quite the player we saw last season, nor Marshall. There’s a big difference between being fit and match fit
It was an entertaining game last night and both teams had a number of opportunities to score. Our set up was much more 541 than 343 and it was another game that showed possession isn’t the bee all when it comes to winning football matches
Amazing atmosphere, 6000 of us all in the top tier, made me all nostalgic for the old south bank days and the big away trips standing behind the goal at the Villa, Blues & Albion. If only he'd put that last minute chance away.
Says it all really:
“Claudio Bravo was Manchester City's hero as they beat Wolves on penalties to reach the Carabao Cup quarter-finals," Bevan writes.
“Bravo, who made three key saves against the Championship leaders in normal time, continued his heroics to deny Alfred N'Diaye and Conor Coady in the shootout after the game finished goalless.
“City scored all four of their spot-kicks, with Sergio Aguero coolly sealing their victory with a Panenka penalty.
“Defeat was harsh on a Wolves side who had become the first team to stop the Premier League pacesetters from scoring this season.
“Roared on by more than 6,000 travelling fans, the visitors had not only frustrated City for long periods, they created the best chances in open play too.
“But the much-maligned Bravo came to his side's rescue on three occasions in one-on-one situations, denying Helder Costa in between two saves from Bright Enobakhare."
Finally the Sun's Martin Blackburn noted Wolves own title aspirations and abilities, writing in his report: "Wolves have certainly enjoyed the season so far — top of the league, top of the goal charts, and labelled the Manchester City of the Championship.
"Boss Pep Guardiola showed his intent by fielding a team packed full of attacking menace — including Sergio Aguero, who was bidding to become the club’s leading goalscorer of all time.
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 33 minutes ago
Says it all really:
“Claudio Bravo was Manchester City's hero as they beat Wolves on penalties to reach the Carabao Cup quarter-finals," Bevan writes.
“Bravo, who made three key saves against the Championship leaders in normal time, continued his heroics to deny Alfred N'Diaye and Conor Coady in the shootout after the game finished goalless.
“City scored all four of their spot-kicks, with Sergio Aguero coolly sealing their victory with a Panenka penalty.
“Defeat was harsh on a Wolves side who had become the first team to stop the Premier League pacesetters from scoring this season.
“Roared on by more than 6,000 travelling fans, the visitors had not only frustrated City for long periods, they created the best chances in open play too.
“But the much-maligned Bravo came to his side's rescue on three occasions in one-on-one situations, denying Helder Costa in between two saves from Bright Enobakhare."
Finally the Sun's Martin Blackburn noted Wolves own title aspirations and abilities, writing in his report: "Wolves have certainly enjoyed the season so far — top of the league, top of the goal charts, and labelled the Manchester City of the Championship.
"Boss Pep Guardiola showed his intent by fielding a team packed full of attacking menace — including Sergio Aguero, who was bidding to become the club’s leading goalscorer of all time.
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....not one mention of the Match thread ?
England U17s just beat Brazil 3-1 to reach the final of their World Cup. Morgan Gibbs-White played a significant part making the second goal.
Could emulate U20s by winning the World Cup.
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
It was an entertaining game last night and both teams had a number of opportunities to score. Our set up was much more 541 than 343 and it was another game that showed possession isn’t the bee all when it comes to winning football matches
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Did it show that? Despite our few chances city completely dominated the game and were quite clearly the stronger side.
Takes nothing away from our performance by the way, we were playing one of the best teams in the world.
comment by Reenie Turpin (U21403)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
Well said, Wolves55. Some great performances last night.
Surely Norris will be pushing Ruddy for a start in the league very soon (although his distribution is patchy).
Batth and Bennett were immense. Coady is surely a better leader than Batth and I don't think there was a shot of him when he wasn't yelling instructions to people.
The midfielders worker their socks off. Costa had a decent outing but is clearly not as sharp as last season, but that's coming.
Even the subs did great.
Although some won't like the term, that was the epitome of "putting a shift in".
Nuno had them organised from the outset and he really wanted to win that game.
The fans too were magnificent, out-singing City all the way through.
Pity it's all over and for those who say the League Cup doesn't matter; well it mattered to Wolves and their fans last night.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with the term 'putting a shift in' against one of the best teams in world football, I think people did have a problem when that was the only tactic against crap like Wigan, west ham, reading, Sunderland et al.
comment by Cinciwolf-moist with excitement (U11551)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Reenie Turpin (U21403)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
Well said, Wolves55. Some great performances last night.
Surely Norris will be pushing Ruddy for a start in the league very soon (although his distribution is patchy).
Batth and Bennett were immense. Coady is surely a better leader than Batth and I don't think there was a shot of him when he wasn't yelling instructions to people.
The midfielders worker their socks off. Costa had a decent outing but is clearly not as sharp as last season, but that's coming.
Even the subs did great.
Although some won't like the term, that was the epitome of "putting a shift in".
Nuno had them organised from the outset and he really wanted to win that game.
The fans too were magnificent, out-singing City all the way through.
Pity it's all over and for those who say the League Cup doesn't matter; well it mattered to Wolves and their fans last night.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with the term 'putting a shift in' against one of the best teams in world football, I think people did have a problem when that was the only tactic against crap like Wigan, west ham, reading, Sunderland et al.
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I think 'putting a shift in' is a pre-requisite of any footballer. The problem the last few years has been that it was an either/or between effort and ability.
This year Nuno has put together a team that works hard on and off the ball, but also has the ability to play cracking football. That is surely what we all want.
The arguments we have had the last few seasons have been caused by us having players who were technically good but lazy as, or poor technically but would run through walls. There was no right answer in that situation, pick your poison and watch us fall short.
I have a problem with any team not putting a shift in, against any level of opposition
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 1 minute ago
I have a problem with any team not putting a shift in, against any level of opposition
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All the best team's 'put a shift in'. For example, when Barcelona were at their best under Pep, he used the six second rule where the nearest players would press to win the ball back for six seconds, fall back into shape if the opposition managed to pass their way out, then press again for six seconds ...repeat until they won the ball back. That team worked as hard as any I've seen.
As you say tam, putting a shift in is the base limit so no idea why it has become such a contentious conversation really.
It was the shift without quality that cost us our prem place and cost us the last few seasons.
I remember Afobe getting plenty of stick and then someone showed that he covered more ground than any other player on the pitch I one game.
comment by Cinciwolf-moist with excitement (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
As you say tam, putting a shift in is the base limit so no idea why it has become such a contentious conversation really.
It was the shift without quality that cost us our prem place and cost us the last few seasons.
I remember Afobe getting plenty of stick and then someone showed that he covered more ground than any other player on the pitch I one game.
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Afobe became very lazy in his final few months here. He failed to close defenders down and didn't challenge for a lot of balls forward. It is only really you who argues otherwise.
Players like Afobe and KMac have good technique and ability, but were always missing the attitude and work rate to push on. I think Afobe lacks a bit of a football brain outside the penalty area too.
They are two of the classic examples of when we had to choose between 'has ability but is lazy' versus 'puts a shift in but lack ability'. Thankfully we players that can do both now and those guys and players like Edwards at the opposite end are in our past.
Not gonna get into it Tam as who cares, but yes it is in our past and we will see ability shine through far more now and that is what will take us up the table as the effort is a given with most players, the ability isn't.
The only thing that is important about Afobe and Kmac is how they would compare with what we have now.
Is there one single Wolves fan who would swap Neves for Kmac? Is there one single Wolves fan that would swap Bonatini for Afobe?
I suspect that would be a no then. The simple fact is we have moved on and in doing so we have moved up a level (or more) in quality.
As I said the other day, I can't think of a single player who has left the club in the last 5 years who I would want back to join the present squad (with the possible exception of Afobe).
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
The only thing that is important about Afobe and Kmac is how they would compare with what we have now.
Is there one single Wolves fan who would swap Neves for Kmac? Is there one single Wolves fan that would swap Bonatini for Afobe?
I suspect that would be a no then. The simple fact is we have moved on and in doing so we have moved up a level (or more) in quality.
As I said the other day, I can't think of a single player who has left the club in the last 5 years who I would want back to join the present squad (with the possible exception of Afobe).
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I agree. I wouldn’t want Afobe back though. Think we should be aiming higher than him.
Putting a shift in is synonymous with either:
A) Tirelessly creating space off the ball - Nuno
B) Herds of Diplodocus defecating on the pitch - Steve Bruce
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posted on 25/10/17
Calm down 55, it's only October
But yes, I share your excitement for what's happening at Wolves
posted on 25/10/17
lol sod it !!!!!!! We have not had anything to shout about for years!
Plus come Jan uncle Mendes will bring us more gifts like a step dad trying to win over his new kids!!!!!
Hazar for Wolves Hazar I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on 25/10/17
Well said, Wolves55. Some great performances last night.
Surely Norris will be pushing Ruddy for a start in the league very soon (although his distribution is patchy).
Batth and Bennett were immense. Coady is surely a better leader than Batth and I don't think there was a shot of him when he wasn't yelling instructions to people.
The midfielders worker their socks off. Costa had a decent outing but is clearly not as sharp as last season, but that's coming.
Even the subs did great.
Although some won't like the term, that was the epitome of "putting a shift in".
Nuno had them organised from the outset and he really wanted to win that game.
The fans too were magnificent, out-singing City all the way through.
Pity it's all over and for those who say the League Cup doesn't matter; well it mattered to Wolves and their fans last night.
posted on 25/10/17
I went to bed last night after the penalty shootout and said to the wife that I had never felt so happy after a Wolves defeat. Actually I suppose it wasn't happiness I was feeling but pride. I think the lads performed beyond everyone's expectations - certainly mine and the ungracious Guardiola was looking the more worried of the two coaches during the game. We were certainly looking the more likely to score in the second half, maybe that's why he brought on his £50 million rated, England international full back.
If Eno could just have finished off one of his 3 one on ones it might have been a different outcome and the pride would have been mixed with jubilation this morning.
posted on 25/10/17
As an aside, with the total absence of Michal Zyro from last night's squad I suspect that we have seen the last of him. A pity as I have always felt that he is the better footballer out of him and Marshall. Nuno it seems, does not agree with me.
posted on 25/10/17
City fan here. Only Bravo kept us in it last night.
It was an enjoyable, if stressful, game. Well played. Thought your defence and especially your keeper were excellent.
posted on 25/10/17
I really did enjoy the game it was a cracker
posted on 25/10/17
For a goalless draw it was still a really decent game
Think we are very fortunate to be in the hat today,would've had no complaints if we'd gone out
posted on 25/10/17
I think Zyro is a really good player but is struggling to get his sharpness back after his long lay off. Costa also at the moment isn’t quite the player we saw last season, nor Marshall. There’s a big difference between being fit and match fit
posted on 25/10/17
It was an entertaining game last night and both teams had a number of opportunities to score. Our set up was much more 541 than 343 and it was another game that showed possession isn’t the bee all when it comes to winning football matches
posted on 25/10/17
Amazing atmosphere, 6000 of us all in the top tier, made me all nostalgic for the old south bank days and the big away trips standing behind the goal at the Villa, Blues & Albion. If only he'd put that last minute chance away.
posted on 25/10/17
Says it all really:
“Claudio Bravo was Manchester City's hero as they beat Wolves on penalties to reach the Carabao Cup quarter-finals," Bevan writes.
“Bravo, who made three key saves against the Championship leaders in normal time, continued his heroics to deny Alfred N'Diaye and Conor Coady in the shootout after the game finished goalless.
“City scored all four of their spot-kicks, with Sergio Aguero coolly sealing their victory with a Panenka penalty.
“Defeat was harsh on a Wolves side who had become the first team to stop the Premier League pacesetters from scoring this season.
“Roared on by more than 6,000 travelling fans, the visitors had not only frustrated City for long periods, they created the best chances in open play too.
“But the much-maligned Bravo came to his side's rescue on three occasions in one-on-one situations, denying Helder Costa in between two saves from Bright Enobakhare."
Finally the Sun's Martin Blackburn noted Wolves own title aspirations and abilities, writing in his report: "Wolves have certainly enjoyed the season so far — top of the league, top of the goal charts, and labelled the Manchester City of the Championship.
"Boss Pep Guardiola showed his intent by fielding a team packed full of attacking menace — including Sergio Aguero, who was bidding to become the club’s leading goalscorer of all time.
posted on 25/10/17
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 33 minutes ago
Says it all really:
“Claudio Bravo was Manchester City's hero as they beat Wolves on penalties to reach the Carabao Cup quarter-finals," Bevan writes.
“Bravo, who made three key saves against the Championship leaders in normal time, continued his heroics to deny Alfred N'Diaye and Conor Coady in the shootout after the game finished goalless.
“City scored all four of their spot-kicks, with Sergio Aguero coolly sealing their victory with a Panenka penalty.
“Defeat was harsh on a Wolves side who had become the first team to stop the Premier League pacesetters from scoring this season.
“Roared on by more than 6,000 travelling fans, the visitors had not only frustrated City for long periods, they created the best chances in open play too.
“But the much-maligned Bravo came to his side's rescue on three occasions in one-on-one situations, denying Helder Costa in between two saves from Bright Enobakhare."
Finally the Sun's Martin Blackburn noted Wolves own title aspirations and abilities, writing in his report: "Wolves have certainly enjoyed the season so far — top of the league, top of the goal charts, and labelled the Manchester City of the Championship.
"Boss Pep Guardiola showed his intent by fielding a team packed full of attacking menace — including Sergio Aguero, who was bidding to become the club’s leading goalscorer of all time.
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....not one mention of the Match thread ?
posted on 25/10/17
England U17s just beat Brazil 3-1 to reach the final of their World Cup. Morgan Gibbs-White played a significant part making the second goal.
Could emulate U20s by winning the World Cup.
posted on 25/10/17
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
It was an entertaining game last night and both teams had a number of opportunities to score. Our set up was much more 541 than 343 and it was another game that showed possession isn’t the bee all when it comes to winning football matches
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Did it show that? Despite our few chances city completely dominated the game and were quite clearly the stronger side.
Takes nothing away from our performance by the way, we were playing one of the best teams in the world.
posted on 25/10/17
comment by Reenie Turpin (U21403)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
Well said, Wolves55. Some great performances last night.
Surely Norris will be pushing Ruddy for a start in the league very soon (although his distribution is patchy).
Batth and Bennett were immense. Coady is surely a better leader than Batth and I don't think there was a shot of him when he wasn't yelling instructions to people.
The midfielders worker their socks off. Costa had a decent outing but is clearly not as sharp as last season, but that's coming.
Even the subs did great.
Although some won't like the term, that was the epitome of "putting a shift in".
Nuno had them organised from the outset and he really wanted to win that game.
The fans too were magnificent, out-singing City all the way through.
Pity it's all over and for those who say the League Cup doesn't matter; well it mattered to Wolves and their fans last night.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with the term 'putting a shift in' against one of the best teams in world football, I think people did have a problem when that was the only tactic against crap like Wigan, west ham, reading, Sunderland et al.
posted on 25/10/17
comment by Cinciwolf-moist with excitement (U11551)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Reenie Turpin (U21403)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
Well said, Wolves55. Some great performances last night.
Surely Norris will be pushing Ruddy for a start in the league very soon (although his distribution is patchy).
Batth and Bennett were immense. Coady is surely a better leader than Batth and I don't think there was a shot of him when he wasn't yelling instructions to people.
The midfielders worker their socks off. Costa had a decent outing but is clearly not as sharp as last season, but that's coming.
Even the subs did great.
Although some won't like the term, that was the epitome of "putting a shift in".
Nuno had them organised from the outset and he really wanted to win that game.
The fans too were magnificent, out-singing City all the way through.
Pity it's all over and for those who say the League Cup doesn't matter; well it mattered to Wolves and their fans last night.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with the term 'putting a shift in' against one of the best teams in world football, I think people did have a problem when that was the only tactic against crap like Wigan, west ham, reading, Sunderland et al.
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I think 'putting a shift in' is a pre-requisite of any footballer. The problem the last few years has been that it was an either/or between effort and ability.
This year Nuno has put together a team that works hard on and off the ball, but also has the ability to play cracking football. That is surely what we all want.
The arguments we have had the last few seasons have been caused by us having players who were technically good but lazy as, or poor technically but would run through walls. There was no right answer in that situation, pick your poison and watch us fall short.
posted on 25/10/17
I have a problem with any team not putting a shift in, against any level of opposition
posted on 25/10/17
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 1 minute ago
I have a problem with any team not putting a shift in, against any level of opposition
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All the best team's 'put a shift in'. For example, when Barcelona were at their best under Pep, he used the six second rule where the nearest players would press to win the ball back for six seconds, fall back into shape if the opposition managed to pass their way out, then press again for six seconds ...repeat until they won the ball back. That team worked as hard as any I've seen.
posted on 25/10/17
As you say tam, putting a shift in is the base limit so no idea why it has become such a contentious conversation really.
It was the shift without quality that cost us our prem place and cost us the last few seasons.
I remember Afobe getting plenty of stick and then someone showed that he covered more ground than any other player on the pitch I one game.
posted on 25/10/17
comment by Cinciwolf-moist with excitement (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
As you say tam, putting a shift in is the base limit so no idea why it has become such a contentious conversation really.
It was the shift without quality that cost us our prem place and cost us the last few seasons.
I remember Afobe getting plenty of stick and then someone showed that he covered more ground than any other player on the pitch I one game.
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Afobe became very lazy in his final few months here. He failed to close defenders down and didn't challenge for a lot of balls forward. It is only really you who argues otherwise.
Players like Afobe and KMac have good technique and ability, but were always missing the attitude and work rate to push on. I think Afobe lacks a bit of a football brain outside the penalty area too.
They are two of the classic examples of when we had to choose between 'has ability but is lazy' versus 'puts a shift in but lack ability'. Thankfully we players that can do both now and those guys and players like Edwards at the opposite end are in our past.
posted on 25/10/17
Not gonna get into it Tam as who cares, but yes it is in our past and we will see ability shine through far more now and that is what will take us up the table as the effort is a given with most players, the ability isn't.
posted on 25/10/17
The only thing that is important about Afobe and Kmac is how they would compare with what we have now.
Is there one single Wolves fan who would swap Neves for Kmac? Is there one single Wolves fan that would swap Bonatini for Afobe?
I suspect that would be a no then. The simple fact is we have moved on and in doing so we have moved up a level (or more) in quality.
As I said the other day, I can't think of a single player who has left the club in the last 5 years who I would want back to join the present squad (with the possible exception of Afobe).
posted on 25/10/17
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
The only thing that is important about Afobe and Kmac is how they would compare with what we have now.
Is there one single Wolves fan who would swap Neves for Kmac? Is there one single Wolves fan that would swap Bonatini for Afobe?
I suspect that would be a no then. The simple fact is we have moved on and in doing so we have moved up a level (or more) in quality.
As I said the other day, I can't think of a single player who has left the club in the last 5 years who I would want back to join the present squad (with the possible exception of Afobe).
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I agree. I wouldn’t want Afobe back though. Think we should be aiming higher than him.
posted on 25/10/17
Putting a shift in is synonymous with either:
A) Tirelessly creating space off the ball - Nuno
B) Herds of Diplodocus defecating on the pitch - Steve Bruce
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