comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 36 seconds ago
If we had de Gea or the Chelsea goalkeeper we would have won the game. This team needs a VVD and a quality goalkeeper and we would challenge for the league.
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Think we need more than that to be honest. Lack of midfield depth was shown today, Can missing we struggled to cope physically, Henderson and Milner both really struggled
Keita will help cover the loss of Can in the summer but how much so I’m less certain than others on here, very different players.
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Thought Milner had a poor game.
Not bad to take a point when we had no Can, no firmino, and no Mane on the pitch today though.
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Yep true
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we had de Gea or the Chelsea goalkeeper we would have won the game. This team needs a VVD and a quality goalkeeper and we would challenge for the league.
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Courtois definitively would have saved that as he's much taller than Mig with a bigger ape index
DDG maybe would have saved it, maybe not
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Courtois nearly saved a shot off target into his net. Mignolet would have got crucified for that.
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared betw... (U1695)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 36 seconds ago
If we had de Gea or the Chelsea goalkeeper we would have won the game. This team needs a VVD and a quality goalkeeper and we would challenge for the league.
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Think we need more than that to be honest. Lack of midfield depth was shown today, Can missing we struggled to cope physically, Henderson and Milner both really struggled
Keita will help cover the loss of Can in the summer but how much so I’m less certain than others on here, very different players.
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Thought Milner was poor first half but after that both of them did ok. You could tell they were both exhausted after 80 minutes though, and we definitely needed Lallana on earlier.
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
I think mothers should be at the birth of their children
Some of those cows skip out and have a girlie night. It's just wrong.
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
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Oh that’s hilarious
It must have sounded funny in his head.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted less than a minute ago
It must have sounded funny in his head.
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Plenty of space
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
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I think your dad was there at the conception. You've never seen him since.
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
the more pressing issue for me tonight was the fact that we didn’t freshen things up earlier
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Lallana was on the side for 5 mins to be fair, the balm just didn’t go out of play.
People always try and blame results on substitutions or lack of, which is far too simplistic. Managers are not puppet masters.
Players ultimately decide games.
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And if the right players are not on the pitch at the right time, then they aint going to decide anything.
Klopp should have looked to build on our lead, as Chelsea were made to come out more, but instead decided it was best to bring on Wijnaldum, and then Mane after conceding in the 87th minute.
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 45 minutes ago
Gerrard has watched keepers train and be coached at the highest level for 20 years.
Just because he’s not a keeper doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what a keeper should be looking to do.
I thought Mig might have done better, but we didn’t really do enough to win anyway.
We know Mig is not a top keeper, it’s not news.
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Yeah...i don't like you very much on here, you're a bit of a nob but I recognise you have a good footballing knowledge. However your opinion here is nonsense. This is highlighted by the fact that players who played with the best in the world go into management and don't do well. Look at Neville for an example who I believe was very unlucky at what he landed into. He played with Ronaldo, Keane, Giggs etc etc. Watching them train doesn't mean you understand what they do or should do. I mean you have examples like Mourinho and even Rodgers who I still maintain is an excellent manager, who never played professionally.
Regardless I would take the opinion of an Irish league goalkeeper over the opinion of a PL midfielder on goalkeeping, a specialised position any day. Anybody who says otherwise is being stupid, even with your obvious footballing knowledge.
What’s knowing when a goalkeeper should save a shot got to do with being a manager?
And you are kind of contradicting your own point by saying top players don’t necessarily make top coaches and then taking the opinion of a (relatively) average player just because he plays that position.
I suspect a keeper on the panel today would have said Mig could have done better, but we will never know.
No need to be a about it, but then you can’t help yourself.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
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I think your dad was there at the conception. You've never seen him since.
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Do people still see their dads at conception?
It WAS a goalkeeping error tbf. Not a major one
Mig needed to back peddle a few strides but he misread the trajectory and pace so dived too early
This may sound harsh but he shouldn't be getting chipped from that position
It was a freak goal and i was massively disappointed with Mig not saving it as a win would have been a fantastic result in a pretty even game
In no way was it a howler though. Just one of them things
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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Starting hends Milner ox against a side that travelled back from Baku at 4am on a Thursday. So negative. Lacking belief in taking a big scalp
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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Starting hends Milner ox against a side that travelled back from Baku at 4am on a Thursday. So negative. Lacking belief in taking a big scalp
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It's no more "negative" than usual, just different players. Look at your own team if you want negativity.
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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Starting hends Milner ox against a side that travelled back from Baku at 4am on a Thursday. So negative. Lacking belief in taking a big scalp
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Come on, he didn't play five defenders and three defensive midfielders. Like somebody else.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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It's all about looking for the psychological advantage though. He brings on Mané, Chelsea know they will have to be cautious defensively or else he will get in behind so easily and with his fresh legs, nobody will catch him. Bringing Mané on would have given that different element to the game I think.
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posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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It's all about looking for the psychological advantage though. He brings on Mané, Chelsea know they will have to be cautious defensively or else he will get in behind so easily and with his fresh legs, nobody will catch him. Bringing Mané on would have given that different element to the game I think.
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Yeah or don't and a cross doesn't go in and we win the game without him. It was just unlucky.
Chelsea earned that luck though. They did enough to get that point, comfortably. Conte tactically beat Klopp in this game.
When Liverpool went 1-0 up, Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down the left. Moreno got dragged inside too often, but maybe not his fault which left Zappacosta free on nearly every occasion for the cross-field pass. Conte recognised this and brought on Pedro at RWB and Willian at AM/RW. Both excellent attacking players with the quality to create/score a goal, which they did and deservedly so imo. Liverpool just didn't deal with that threat.
If he brought on mane at 70 mins and we conceded everyone would have called Klopp a reckless idiot
Because everyone 'knows' you're supposed to bring on an extra defender or solid midfielder to close out the match
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posted on 25/11/17
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 36 seconds ago
If we had de Gea or the Chelsea goalkeeper we would have won the game. This team needs a VVD and a quality goalkeeper and we would challenge for the league.
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Think we need more than that to be honest. Lack of midfield depth was shown today, Can missing we struggled to cope physically, Henderson and Milner both really struggled
Keita will help cover the loss of Can in the summer but how much so I’m less certain than others on here, very different players.
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Thought Milner had a poor game.
Not bad to take a point when we had no Can, no firmino, and no Mane on the pitch today though.
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Yep true
posted on 25/11/17
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we had de Gea or the Chelsea goalkeeper we would have won the game. This team needs a VVD and a quality goalkeeper and we would challenge for the league.
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Courtois definitively would have saved that as he's much taller than Mig with a bigger ape index
DDG maybe would have saved it, maybe not
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Courtois nearly saved a shot off target into his net. Mignolet would have got crucified for that.
posted on 25/11/17
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comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I agree.
posted on 25/11/17
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 36 seconds ago
If we had de Gea or the Chelsea goalkeeper we would have won the game. This team needs a VVD and a quality goalkeeper and we would challenge for the league.
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Think we need more than that to be honest. Lack of midfield depth was shown today, Can missing we struggled to cope physically, Henderson and Milner both really struggled
Keita will help cover the loss of Can in the summer but how much so I’m less certain than others on here, very different players.
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Thought Milner was poor first half but after that both of them did ok. You could tell they were both exhausted after 80 minutes though, and we definitely needed Lallana on earlier.
posted on 25/11/17
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
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comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
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comment by Tiddles (U17634)
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Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
posted on 25/11/17
I think mothers should be at the birth of their children
Some of those cows skip out and have a girlie night. It's just wrong.
posted on 25/11/17
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
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posted about a minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
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comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
posted on 25/11/17
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comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
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comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
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Oh that’s hilarious
posted on 25/11/17
It must have sounded funny in his head.
posted on 25/11/17
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted less than a minute ago
It must have sounded funny in his head.
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Plenty of space
posted on 25/11/17
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
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I think your dad was there at the conception. You've never seen him since.
posted on 25/11/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
the more pressing issue for me tonight was the fact that we didn’t freshen things up earlier
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Lallana was on the side for 5 mins to be fair, the balm just didn’t go out of play.
People always try and blame results on substitutions or lack of, which is far too simplistic. Managers are not puppet masters.
Players ultimately decide games.
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And if the right players are not on the pitch at the right time, then they aint going to decide anything.
Klopp should have looked to build on our lead, as Chelsea were made to come out more, but instead decided it was best to bring on Wijnaldum, and then Mane after conceding in the 87th minute.
posted on 25/11/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 45 minutes ago
Gerrard has watched keepers train and be coached at the highest level for 20 years.
Just because he’s not a keeper doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what a keeper should be looking to do.
I thought Mig might have done better, but we didn’t really do enough to win anyway.
We know Mig is not a top keeper, it’s not news.
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Yeah...i don't like you very much on here, you're a bit of a nob but I recognise you have a good footballing knowledge. However your opinion here is nonsense. This is highlighted by the fact that players who played with the best in the world go into management and don't do well. Look at Neville for an example who I believe was very unlucky at what he landed into. He played with Ronaldo, Keane, Giggs etc etc. Watching them train doesn't mean you understand what they do or should do. I mean you have examples like Mourinho and even Rodgers who I still maintain is an excellent manager, who never played professionally.
Regardless I would take the opinion of an Irish league goalkeeper over the opinion of a PL midfielder on goalkeeping, a specialised position any day. Anybody who says otherwise is being stupid, even with your obvious footballing knowledge.
posted on 25/11/17
What’s knowing when a goalkeeper should save a shot got to do with being a manager?
And you are kind of contradicting your own point by saying top players don’t necessarily make top coaches and then taking the opinion of a (relatively) average player just because he plays that position.
I suspect a keeper on the panel today would have said Mig could have done better, but we will never know.
No need to be a about it, but then you can’t help yourself.
posted on 25/11/17
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posted 42 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
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posted less than a minute ago
comment by KLS - Kolo-Match thread duties are shared between Pranks and me, we got married last month as he sacked me off whilst on one knee. My parents warned me he was too short and old, but unlike Liverpools trophy cabinet he isn't full of dust and mould. (U1695)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 24 seconds ago
Xalero or something was it? Think he went to Real or Barcelona.
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Xavi Valero i think, him and Rafa had a falling out. Was a real shame as i had a mate who worked in the club back then (nothing majorly high up) but he was very well thought of by everyone at the club.
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They didn’t fall out!
He went with Benitez to inter and Napoli
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You’re correct, that’s weird. I’d heard they’d fallen out.
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Rafa always gets this falling out line. In effect he fell out with the owners at Liverpool, which turned out to be unstandable and then the owners at Inter when they had so many aging players and he wanted to freshen it up. It turned out to be correct too.
People criticise him for Alonso as he wanted Alonso to attend a game when his child was being born, perhaps incorrect in my opinion anyway but Moreno played a game instead of attending the birth of his child and he got criticised and nobody mentioned his loyalty. You can't win with fans.
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I think fathers should be at the birth of they’re children end of
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I agree
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Really?
i think you'll find that most scouse 'dads' are rarely even present at conception never mind birth.
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I think your dad was there at the conception. You've never seen him since.
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Do people still see their dads at conception?
posted on 25/11/17
It WAS a goalkeeping error tbf. Not a major one
Mig needed to back peddle a few strides but he misread the trajectory and pace so dived too early
This may sound harsh but he shouldn't be getting chipped from that position
It was a freak goal and i was massively disappointed with Mig not saving it as a win would have been a fantastic result in a pretty even game
In no way was it a howler though. Just one of them things
posted on 25/11/17
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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Starting hends Milner ox against a side that travelled back from Baku at 4am on a Thursday. So negative. Lacking belief in taking a big scalp
posted on 26/11/17
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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Starting hends Milner ox against a side that travelled back from Baku at 4am on a Thursday. So negative. Lacking belief in taking a big scalp
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It's no more "negative" than usual, just different players. Look at your own team if you want negativity.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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Starting hends Milner ox against a side that travelled back from Baku at 4am on a Thursday. So negative. Lacking belief in taking a big scalp
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Come on, he didn't play five defenders and three defensive midfielders. Like somebody else.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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It's all about looking for the psychological advantage though. He brings on Mané, Chelsea know they will have to be cautious defensively or else he will get in behind so easily and with his fresh legs, nobody will catch him. Bringing Mané on would have given that different element to the game I think.
posted on 26/11/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
Think a draw was a fair result in the end. Chelsea had their quality going forward, as did Liverpool. Both got lucky with their goals, a ricochet falling to Salah and the cross from Willian but I felt Conte managed the game better.
He brought on 3 excellent attacking players in Fabregas, Pedro and Willian. He recognised that Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down their right flank. He knew being 1-0 down he had to change it and he essentially brought on 2 wingers for a defensive minded midfielder and a full back/wing back which would always cause more issues. But more importantly, Conte made the changes at the right time. He gave them time to make an impact. He gave Fabregas and Pedro 15 minutes to impact the game and obviously Willian came on and had an instant one really, but he knew they would influence the game. As much as Hazard went missing after taking that knock early in the 2nd half, leaving him on always made Liverpool wary psychologically.
Tactically, mentally and psychologically Conte won today, that got Chelsea the point. At 1-0, Klopp needed to let the dust settle for 5 minutes, take off Coutinho because he looked tired and then bring Mané on around 70 minutes. His pace on the break would have caused Chelsea all sorts of problems and them Chelsea defensive minded players, like Kante, would have to sacrifice themselves for the counter attack. Lallana was just stood around for nearly 10 minutes, Liverpool just needed a foul to get him on. Lallana with his work-man-like performance down the left could have won them the game at the end of the day.
The game was tight, nervy and very even. But these fine margins that win you football games. That's what Liverpool lack to compete with the big boys. When the going gets tough, can they hold out. The answer is no.
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Yeah it's easy to manage the game better when you're losing 1-0. You just bring attacking players on. I thought Klopp did quite well to be honest. He's always facing criticism for his team's not being able to hold onto a lead and yet people wanted attacking subs when leading until deep into the game.
As soon as we conceded he introduced the attacking players which is what you would expect from a top manager.
Again, I think we are trying to find somebody to blame when there isn't anybody.
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It's all about looking for the psychological advantage though. He brings on Mané, Chelsea know they will have to be cautious defensively or else he will get in behind so easily and with his fresh legs, nobody will catch him. Bringing Mané on would have given that different element to the game I think.
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Yeah or don't and a cross doesn't go in and we win the game without him. It was just unlucky.
posted on 26/11/17
Chelsea earned that luck though. They did enough to get that point, comfortably. Conte tactically beat Klopp in this game.
When Liverpool went 1-0 up, Zappacosta and Drinkwater were causing Liverpool all sorts of problems down the left. Moreno got dragged inside too often, but maybe not his fault which left Zappacosta free on nearly every occasion for the cross-field pass. Conte recognised this and brought on Pedro at RWB and Willian at AM/RW. Both excellent attacking players with the quality to create/score a goal, which they did and deservedly so imo. Liverpool just didn't deal with that threat.
posted on 26/11/17
If he brought on mane at 70 mins and we conceded everyone would have called Klopp a reckless idiot
Because everyone 'knows' you're supposed to bring on an extra defender or solid midfielder to close out the match
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