comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 9 minutes ago
"He's saying Fury won every round after round 3 except for one round !! Utter BS."

The fight I saw thats fairly accurate. He comfortably won over half the rounds. And the others bar 1 + the knock down, which I think Francis won were close enough they could have gone either way
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Which rounds do you think Fury comfortably won then ? In my opinion he never looked remotely comfortable at any point in the fight.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 9 minutes ago
"He's saying Fury won every round after round 3 except for one round !! Utter BS."

The fight I saw thats fairly accurate. He comfortably won over half the rounds. And the others bar 1 + the knock down, which I think Francis won were close enough they could have gone either way
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Which rounds do you think Fury comfortably won then ? In my opinion he never looked remotely comfortable at any point in the fight.
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1, 4, 5,7,9

Francis only won 2,3 and 8 imo

The others could have gone either way

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 54 minutes ago
"He's saying Fury won every round after round 3 except for one round !! Utter BS."

The fight I saw thats fairly accurate. He comfortably won over half the rounds. And the others bar 1 + the knock down, which I think Francis won were close enough they could have gone either way
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Exactly.

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted about 2 hours ago
Crazy thinking about it, that the undisputed fight if the right decisions were made wouls actually be between Dubois & Ngannou
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Dubois quit against Usyk.
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Irrelevant, he knocked Usyk out with that body shot, he couldn’t get back up in time

But was incorrectly given below the belt

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
I think those that are saying Tyson didn't train for this fight are just plucking that idea out of thin air. The evidence points to Tyson training as hard for this as any other fight. I've seen nothing to suggest from any of the Tyson camp that he didn't train properly, they're all saying he trained well.

Fact is he just came up against something he wasn't expecting, ie a fighter that wasn't remotely intimidated by him, who held his ground and didn't back off and who was clearly much stronger physically than Tyson. Meaning that Fury couldn't bully him in the clinch. Also someone who hits very hard as you could see in the latter rounds Fury was getting more and more reluctant to engage for fear of being hit and potentially floored for a second time.

It was an embarrassing display by Fury and even more embarrassing that he got the decision.
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It was a close enough fight where anyone throwing around the word robbery either doesn't like Fury or doesn't know what actual robberies look like.
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I've followed Fury for years, since well before the likes of yourself got into boxing. I was one of few who backed him to beat Vlad, when most thought he'd get battered. And I've seen plenty of robberies, more than most and far more than I've ever wanted to. Something that seems epidemic in boxing sadly.

Fury lost the third round 10-8 after getting knocked down. So how on earth is one judge scoring it 96-93 in Fury's favour ?? He's saying Fury won every round after round 3 except for one round !! Utter BS.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/10/28/23936681/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-official-scorecard

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I don't care how long you've followed Fury, you're still wrong about this fight being a robbery.

As for watching boxing before me, how do you know when I started watching the sport, which in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant anyway.

comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 43 minutes ago
I feel as though heavyweight is just a load of chancers tbh.

Usyk best of a bad bunch imo
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As someone who's followed Fury for years and loved his comeback after battling drug addiction and mental health etc I got really tired of hearing him call himself the greatest ever. His resume just doesn't back that up, he's had a relatively small number of title fights.

Beating a near 40 year old Vlad and a boxer with limited technical ability in Deontay Wilder are good achievements but that doesn't put him up there in the pantheon of all time greats and certainly doesn't make him the greatest.

Hopefully getting beaten up by a total boxing novice in his first pro boxing fight is the wake up call he needs.

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted about a minute ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted about 2 hours ago
Crazy thinking about it, that the undisputed fight if the right decisions were made wouls actually be between Dubois & Ngannou
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Dubois quit against Usyk.
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Irrelevant, he knocked Usyk out with that body shot, he couldn’t get back up in time

But was incorrectly given below the belt
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Irrelevant. Usyk stopped Dubois and Dubois never contested the loss. He accepted not being able to continue, which is what quitters do.

Usyk was given the time to recover, due to the blow being called a low blow, which a case could be argued for and against.

Think people forget each round is judged and not just how the whole thing "looks".
I had TF winning 5, FN winning 3 and the other 2 could have gone either way - think I gave them both to FN at the time for a 95-94 win but it could have easily been 96-93 to Fury.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Think people forget each round is judged and not just how the whole thing "looks".
I had TF winning 5, FN winning 3 and the other 2 could have gone either way - think I gave them both to FN at the time for a 95-94 win but it could have easily been 96-93 to Fury.


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It's also worth mentioning that boxing contests aren't beauty contests. Just because Fury looked worse, doesn't mean he lost the fight.

I feel like there are a lot of people that didn't want Fury to win and have sought a vehicle in Ngannou, to vent those ill feelings.

As for watching boxing before me, how do you know when I started watching the sport, which in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant anyway
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Because you were quite open about it before.

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Think people forget each round is judged and not just how the whole thing "looks".
I had TF winning 5, FN winning 3 and the other 2 could have gone either way - think I gave them both to FN at the time for a 95-94 win but it could have easily been 96-93 to Fury.


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It's also worth mentioning that boxing contests aren't beauty contests. Just because Fury looked worse, doesn't mean he lost the fight.

I feel like there are a lot of people that didn't want Fury to win and have sought a vehicle in Ngannou, to vent those ill feelings.
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People also just have subjective biases.

I normally consider landing big punches to be more decisive than backpedalling behind a jab

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
As for watching boxing before me, how do you know when I started watching the sport, which in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant anyway
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Because you were quite open about it before.
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I don't ever recall stating the exact year I started watching the sport. Unless you can provide proof, I will consider your statement more of an opinion, than actual fact.

comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Think people forget each round is judged and not just how the whole thing "looks".
I had TF winning 5, FN winning 3 and the other 2 could have gone either way - think I gave them both to FN at the time for a 95-94 win but it could have easily been 96-93 to Fury.


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It's also worth mentioning that boxing contests aren't beauty contests. Just because Fury looked worse, doesn't mean he lost the fight.

I feel like there are a lot of people that didn't want Fury to win and have sought a vehicle in Ngannou, to vent those ill feelings.
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People also just have subjective biases.

I normally consider landing big punches to be more decisive than backpedalling behind a jab
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Being on the back foot doesn't lose or gain you points. Throwing jabs wins you fights.

I see Peter fury is doing his snakey little like posts on twitter again against anything anti-Tyson

Wonder if we’ll ever find out the real reason for the split

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Think people forget each round is judged and not just how the whole thing "looks".
I had TF winning 5, FN winning 3 and the other 2 could have gone either way - think I gave them both to FN at the time for a 95-94 win but it could have easily been 96-93 to Fury.


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It's also worth mentioning that boxing contests aren't beauty contests. Just because Fury looked worse, doesn't mean he lost the fight.

I feel like there are a lot of people that didn't want Fury to win and have sought a vehicle in Ngannou, to vent those ill feelings.
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Personally I wanted Fury to win this fight, I've supported him most of his career (apart from Chisora 3 which was a joke). Also I'm desperate for undisputed to happen and didn't want anything to jeopardize that. I was even worried about Fury sustaining an injury that might impact the Usyk fight.

Compubox punch stats of punches landed:

Round 1:
Fury: 11
Ngannou: 6

Round 2:
Fury: 7
Ngannou: 6

Round 3:
Fury: 1
Ngannou: 7

Round 4:
Fury: 6
Ngannou: 8

Round 5:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 6

Round 6:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 5

Round 7:
Fury: 5
Ngannou: 5

Round 8:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 10

Round 9:
Fury: 8
Ngannou: 2

Round 10:
Fury: 6
Ngannou: 4

Thought it was poor Fury didn’t bother with a post fight press conference

I know he was disappointed in himself but still, shouldn’t hide

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 2 minutes ago
Compubox punch stats of punches landed:

Round 1:
Fury: 11
Ngannou: 6

Round 2:
Fury: 7
Ngannou: 6

Round 3:
Fury: 1
Ngannou: 7

Round 4:
Fury: 6
Ngannou: 8

Round 5:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 6

Round 6:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 5

Round 7:
Fury: 5
Ngannou: 5

Round 8:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 10

Round 9:
Fury: 8
Ngannou: 2

Round 10:
Fury: 6
Ngannou: 4

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You see the stats I posted earlier? Big drop in punches thrown compared to last 3 fights

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
As for watching boxing before me, how do you know when I started watching the sport, which in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant anyway
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Because you were quite open about it before.
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I don't ever recall stating the exact year I started watching the sport. Unless you can provide proof, I will consider your statement more of an opinion, than actual fact.
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You said it a few years back Vik, I don't remember on which article, could have been one of hundreds on here. I'll ask Mr C when he's next on as he'll undoubtedly remember the comment too. Either way I'm not judging, we all have to start somewhere.

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
Thought it was poor Fury didn’t bother with a post fight press conference

I know he was disappointed in himself but still, shouldn’t hide
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Says a lot to me.

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted about a minute ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 2 minutes ago
Compubox punch stats of punches landed:

Round 1:
Fury: 11
Ngannou: 6

Round 2:
Fury: 7
Ngannou: 6

Round 3:
Fury: 1
Ngannou: 7

Round 4:
Fury: 6
Ngannou: 8

Round 5:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 6

Round 6:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 5

Round 7:
Fury: 5
Ngannou: 5

Round 8:
Fury: 9
Ngannou: 10

Round 9:
Fury: 8
Ngannou: 2

Round 10:
Fury: 6
Ngannou: 4

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You see the stats I posted earlier? Big drop in punches thrown compared to last 3 fights
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I've watched the fight back twice now and his output was strangely low but his inaccuracy was more concerning. He was doing a lot of feinting but credit to Ngannou, because he never committed to any of them.

I thought Ngannou’s style was very similar to how AJ fights except maybe a bit more stand off ish instead of walking forward

But in terms of the types of punches and the way he throws, very similar

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
Thought it was poor Fury didn’t bother with a post fight press conference

I know he was disappointed in himself but still, shouldn’t hide
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Says a lot to me.
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It was a muted post fight reaction by him and his team and they knew that the fight could have gone either way.

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted less than a minute ago
I thought Ngannou’s style was very similar to how AJ fights except maybe a bit more stand off ish instead of walking forward

But in terms of the types of punches and the way he throws, very similar
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Same build and stature.

I'd like to see that fight.

John & Tommy gave a short interview but just standard stuff, no camp insights etc