Will be honest, I would bet on Francis beating AJ these days. Feel Francis is the type of fighter AJ has knightmares about these days.
This would be a time I would love a time machine and go back in time to tell Ngannou coaches not to make Francis pick MMA over boxing. He has deceptively quick hands and you gotta feel if he had been training the last 20 years as a boxer he could well be the champ based on how well he transitioned.
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 15 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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too much money to be made for from him and at 37 no time to mes about with the Chisora's.
Early word is that Saudi are willing to offer him 30/40m to fight Wilder/AJ/Fury.
PFL boss has said they dont have much in terms of MMA lined up to compete against that.
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted about 9 hours ago
Will be honest, I would bet on Francis beating AJ these days. Feel Francis is the type of fighter AJ has knightmares about these days.
This would be a time I would love a time machine and go back in time to tell Ngannou coaches not to make Francis pick MMA over boxing. He has deceptively quick hands and you gotta feel if he had been training the last 20 years as a boxer he could well be the champ based on how well he transitioned.
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na we get the AJ that fought Ruiz 2. on his bike and jabbing for 12 rounds IMO.
I think the most likely fight will be Wilder.
I think thats the fight Ngannou's team think he has the best shot of winning.
Fury will destroy him I think in a rematch and AJ runs for 12 to a simple victory against him.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
the biggest shock that Fury got wasnt the knockdown it was the fact that when he went in for the clinch he found out Ngannou was stronger than him and knew how to manipulate him to avoid Fury leaning which was gonna be his get out of jail card if the boxing wasnt happening IMO.
Tire him out but quickly learned that not only couldnt manage it but he was getting tagged as a result to it.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
the biggest shock that Fury got wasnt the knockdown it was the fact that when he went in for the clinch he found out Ngannou was stronger than him and knew how to manipulate him to avoid Fury leaning which was gonna be his get out of jail card if the boxing wasnt happening IMO.
Tire him out but quickly learned that not only couldnt manage it but he was getting tagged as a result to it.
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Yeah that's where his MMA skills came into play
It's all well and good saying stuff like Fury would destroy Ngannou in a rematch, he needs to prove it by actually getting in the ring and doing it. Talk means nothing.
And according to the Fury camp they trained very well for this fight just as they would have trained well for any fight. So saying stuff like Fury didn't prepare properly is just pure speculation and not backed up by any actual evidence that I can see.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's all well and good saying stuff like Fury would destroy Ngannou in a rematch, he needs to prove it by actually getting in the ring and doing it. Talk means nothing.
And according to the Fury camp they trained very well for this fight just as they would have trained well for any fight. So saying stuff like Fury didn't prepare properly is just pure speculation and not backed up by any actual evidence that I can see.
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I agree, it's premature and disrespectful to say Fury would destroy him in a rematch. Fury would probably win but I don't think it would be an easy fight.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 minutes ago
the biggest shock that Fury got wasnt the knockdown it was the fact that when he went in for the clinch he found out Ngannou was stronger than him and knew how to manipulate him to avoid Fury leaning which was gonna be his get out of jail card if the boxing wasnt happening IMO.
Tire him out but quickly learned that not only couldnt manage it but he was getting tagged as a result to it.
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The clinch was key but Fury was also surprised by Ngannou's chin. Fury landed some clean shots and Ngannou ate them and kept coming forward.
Ngannou also stated on a recent interview that he didn't go for the kill in round 3, because he was afraid of potential fatigue. He had never boxed 10 rounds and he wanted to make sure he had enough in the tank.
I think we will see a more aggressive and active Ngannou when he returns to boxing.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
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he did beat him, na its not disrespectful to think that at all its just an opinion chief.
Ngannou was disciplined in that he refused to chase Fury and basically just planted his feet in the middle and let him come to him.
next fight Fury will hvae far more info on him, will know far more of his strengths and weakeness and will have the legs to dance round him.
Fury won the first fight I thikn people are missing this. It as a win for Francis cos we all assumed he would be embarassed. but he won 3 rounds in what was actually a horrible fight.
the more Francis looks to engage and move the poorer he will look.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
the more Francis looks to engage and move the poorer he will look.
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He may look awkward but as long as he lands, he's going to cause damage.
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
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he did beat him, na its not disrespectful to think that at all its just an opinion chief.
Ngannou was disciplined in that he refused to chase Fury and basically just planted his feet in the middle and let him come to him.
next fight Fury will hvae far more info on him, will know far more of his strengths and weakeness and will have the legs to dance round him.
Fury won the first fight I thikn people are missing this. It as a win for Francis cos we all assumed he would be embarassed. but he won 3 rounds in what was actually a horrible fight.
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Fury said he trained and took Ngannou seriously. Unless you know otherwise, it's just your opinion that he was underprepared.
Fury did win but it was a close fight and Ngannou could have won too. Fury may improve in the rematch but you're ignoring the possible improvements Ngannou could make.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
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AJ hasnt went toe to toe sing Ruiz 1.
Fury was massively underprepared, you cna see this with his timing of punch , so many times he was going wide to land them and had no distance management in his straight shots. thats classic signs of a boxer not spending much time sparring, not sharp at all, add to that he wasnt therefore mentally prepared for a tough night.
that was an incredibly poor prepared Fury.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
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he did beat him, na its not disrespectful to think that at all its just an opinion chief.
Ngannou was disciplined in that he refused to chase Fury and basically just planted his feet in the middle and let him come to him.
next fight Fury will hvae far more info on him, will know far more of his strengths and weakeness and will have the legs to dance round him.
Fury won the first fight I thikn people are missing this. It as a win for Francis cos we all assumed he would be embarassed. but he won 3 rounds in what was actually a horrible fight.
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Fury said he trained and took Ngannou seriously. Unless you know otherwise, it's just your opinion that he was underprepared.
Fury did win but it was a close fight and Ngannou could have won too. Fury may improve in the rematch but you're ignoring the possible improvements Ngannou could make.
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NG coulndt hve won in my book, winning 3 rounds doesnt win you the fight.
My opinion is a better prepared and les fat and sloppy Fury doenst lose those 3 rounds
Fury is going to need to rematch Ngannou at some point and show that Ngannou bullying him for much of the fight and flooring him was just a fluke. Just saying that he could win the rematch counts for absolute dlck. It needs to be proved in the boxing ring.
Tbh I'm even at the point where I think I'd rather see Fury have to rematch Ngannou next before he can fight Usyk for undisputed. And that's coming from someone who's desperate to see undisputed.
Fury opened up this Pandora's box and now he's going to have to deal with the consequences.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
Fury is going to need to rematch Ngannou at some point and show that Ngannou bullying him for much of the fight and flooring him was just a fluke. Just saying that he could win the rematch counts for absolute dlck. It needs to be proved in the boxing ring.
Tbh I'm even at the point where I think I'd rather see Fury have to rematch Ngannou next before he can fight Usyk for undisputed. And that's coming from someone who's desperate to see undisputed.
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I cant see why he wouldnt, more mega money for him and its an easier fight than AJ & Usyk IMO.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
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AJ hasnt went toe to toe sing Ruiz 1.
Fury was massively underprepared, you cna see this with his timing of punch , so many times he was going wide to land them and had no distance management in his straight shots. thats classic signs of a boxer not spending much time sparring, not sharp at all, add to that he wasnt therefore mentally prepared for a tough night.
that was an incredibly poor prepared Fury.
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AJ hasn't ran and boxed anyone since Ruiz 2.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
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AJ hasnt went toe to toe sing Ruiz 1.
Fury was massively underprepared, you cna see this with his timing of punch , so many times he was going wide to land them and had no distance management in his straight shots. thats classic signs of a boxer not spending much time sparring, not sharp at all, add to that he wasnt therefore mentally prepared for a tough night.
that was an incredibly poor prepared Fury.
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AJ hasn't ran and boxed anyone since Ruiz 2.
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I am still unsure what AJ's plan was versus Usyk,
Seemed to try and outbox him over 24 rounds.
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posted on 1/11/23
Will be honest, I would bet on Francis beating AJ these days. Feel Francis is the type of fighter AJ has knightmares about these days.
This would be a time I would love a time machine and go back in time to tell Ngannou coaches not to make Francis pick MMA over boxing. He has deceptively quick hands and you gotta feel if he had been training the last 20 years as a boxer he could well be the champ based on how well he transitioned.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 15 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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too much money to be made for from him and at 37 no time to mes about with the Chisora's.
Early word is that Saudi are willing to offer him 30/40m to fight Wilder/AJ/Fury.
PFL boss has said they dont have much in terms of MMA lined up to compete against that.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted about 9 hours ago
Will be honest, I would bet on Francis beating AJ these days. Feel Francis is the type of fighter AJ has knightmares about these days.
This would be a time I would love a time machine and go back in time to tell Ngannou coaches not to make Francis pick MMA over boxing. He has deceptively quick hands and you gotta feel if he had been training the last 20 years as a boxer he could well be the champ based on how well he transitioned.
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na we get the AJ that fought Ruiz 2. on his bike and jabbing for 12 rounds IMO.
posted on 2/11/23
I think the most likely fight will be Wilder.
I think thats the fight Ngannou's team think he has the best shot of winning.
Fury will destroy him I think in a rematch and AJ runs for 12 to a simple victory against him.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
posted on 2/11/23
the biggest shock that Fury got wasnt the knockdown it was the fact that when he went in for the clinch he found out Ngannou was stronger than him and knew how to manipulate him to avoid Fury leaning which was gonna be his get out of jail card if the boxing wasnt happening IMO.
Tire him out but quickly learned that not only couldnt manage it but he was getting tagged as a result to it.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
the biggest shock that Fury got wasnt the knockdown it was the fact that when he went in for the clinch he found out Ngannou was stronger than him and knew how to manipulate him to avoid Fury leaning which was gonna be his get out of jail card if the boxing wasnt happening IMO.
Tire him out but quickly learned that not only couldnt manage it but he was getting tagged as a result to it.
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Yeah that's where his MMA skills came into play
posted on 2/11/23
It's all well and good saying stuff like Fury would destroy Ngannou in a rematch, he needs to prove it by actually getting in the ring and doing it. Talk means nothing.
And according to the Fury camp they trained very well for this fight just as they would have trained well for any fight. So saying stuff like Fury didn't prepare properly is just pure speculation and not backed up by any actual evidence that I can see.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's all well and good saying stuff like Fury would destroy Ngannou in a rematch, he needs to prove it by actually getting in the ring and doing it. Talk means nothing.
And according to the Fury camp they trained very well for this fight just as they would have trained well for any fight. So saying stuff like Fury didn't prepare properly is just pure speculation and not backed up by any actual evidence that I can see.
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I agree, it's premature and disrespectful to say Fury would destroy him in a rematch. Fury would probably win but I don't think it would be an easy fight.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 minutes ago
the biggest shock that Fury got wasnt the knockdown it was the fact that when he went in for the clinch he found out Ngannou was stronger than him and knew how to manipulate him to avoid Fury leaning which was gonna be his get out of jail card if the boxing wasnt happening IMO.
Tire him out but quickly learned that not only couldnt manage it but he was getting tagged as a result to it.
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The clinch was key but Fury was also surprised by Ngannou's chin. Fury landed some clean shots and Ngannou ate them and kept coming forward.
posted on 2/11/23
Ngannou also stated on a recent interview that he didn't go for the kill in round 3, because he was afraid of potential fatigue. He had never boxed 10 rounds and he wanted to make sure he had enough in the tank.
I think we will see a more aggressive and active Ngannou when he returns to boxing.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
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he did beat him, na its not disrespectful to think that at all its just an opinion chief.
Ngannou was disciplined in that he refused to chase Fury and basically just planted his feet in the middle and let him come to him.
next fight Fury will hvae far more info on him, will know far more of his strengths and weakeness and will have the legs to dance round him.
Fury won the first fight I thikn people are missing this. It as a win for Francis cos we all assumed he would be embarassed. but he won 3 rounds in what was actually a horrible fight.
posted on 2/11/23
the more Francis looks to engage and move the poorer he will look.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about a minute ago
the more Francis looks to engage and move the poorer he will look.
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He may look awkward but as long as he lands, he's going to cause damage.
posted on 2/11/23
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
posted on 2/11/23
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 27 minutes ago
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posted about 11 hours ago
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posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
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he did beat him, na its not disrespectful to think that at all its just an opinion chief.
Ngannou was disciplined in that he refused to chase Fury and basically just planted his feet in the middle and let him come to him.
next fight Fury will hvae far more info on him, will know far more of his strengths and weakeness and will have the legs to dance round him.
Fury won the first fight I thikn people are missing this. It as a win for Francis cos we all assumed he would be embarassed. but he won 3 rounds in what was actually a horrible fight.
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Fury said he trained and took Ngannou seriously. Unless you know otherwise, it's just your opinion that he was underprepared.
Fury did win but it was a close fight and Ngannou could have won too. Fury may improve in the rematch but you're ignoring the possible improvements Ngannou could make.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
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AJ hasnt went toe to toe sing Ruiz 1.
Fury was massively underprepared, you cna see this with his timing of punch , so many times he was going wide to land them and had no distance management in his straight shots. thats classic signs of a boxer not spending much time sparring, not sharp at all, add to that he wasnt therefore mentally prepared for a tough night.
that was an incredibly poor prepared Fury.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
In an ideal world, these would be the match ups at HW I'd like to see in 2024:
Feb-Fury vs Usyk
March - AJ vs Ngannou
July- AJ/Ngannou winner vs Wilder
December-Fury vs Usyk 2
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Can't believe you have been bought in to the Ngannou hype. He does not deserve a fight against AJ.
Let him go and fight Delboy or someone low ranked.
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He arguably beat the best HW on the planet and in his first fight. AJ and Wilder stylistically, a more favourable match ups and if either of them gets touched by Francis, they are going to sleep.
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He fought a fat unprepared Fury Guv cmon, that wasnt the best HW in the world in that ring the other night far from it. They assumed they could this fight to lose some weight before entering a proper camp for Usyk.
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Even an unprepared Fury should have the boxing IQ and skill to beat a guy that's never boxed. I think people have underestimated how good Ngannou is.
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he did beat him, na its not disrespectful to think that at all its just an opinion chief.
Ngannou was disciplined in that he refused to chase Fury and basically just planted his feet in the middle and let him come to him.
next fight Fury will hvae far more info on him, will know far more of his strengths and weakeness and will have the legs to dance round him.
Fury won the first fight I thikn people are missing this. It as a win for Francis cos we all assumed he would be embarassed. but he won 3 rounds in what was actually a horrible fight.
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Fury said he trained and took Ngannou seriously. Unless you know otherwise, it's just your opinion that he was underprepared.
Fury did win but it was a close fight and Ngannou could have won too. Fury may improve in the rematch but you're ignoring the possible improvements Ngannou could make.
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NG coulndt hve won in my book, winning 3 rounds doesnt win you the fight.
My opinion is a better prepared and les fat and sloppy Fury doenst lose those 3 rounds
posted on 2/11/23
Fury is going to need to rematch Ngannou at some point and show that Ngannou bullying him for much of the fight and flooring him was just a fluke. Just saying that he could win the rematch counts for absolute dlck. It needs to be proved in the boxing ring.
Tbh I'm even at the point where I think I'd rather see Fury have to rematch Ngannou next before he can fight Usyk for undisputed. And that's coming from someone who's desperate to see undisputed.
posted on 2/11/23
Fury opened up this Pandora's box and now he's going to have to deal with the consequences.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
Fury is going to need to rematch Ngannou at some point and show that Ngannou bullying him for much of the fight and flooring him was just a fluke. Just saying that he could win the rematch counts for absolute dlck. It needs to be proved in the boxing ring.
Tbh I'm even at the point where I think I'd rather see Fury have to rematch Ngannou next before he can fight Usyk for undisputed. And that's coming from someone who's desperate to see undisputed.
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I cant see why he wouldnt, more mega money for him and its an easier fight than AJ & Usyk IMO.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
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AJ hasnt went toe to toe sing Ruiz 1.
Fury was massively underprepared, you cna see this with his timing of punch , so many times he was going wide to land them and had no distance management in his straight shots. thats classic signs of a boxer not spending much time sparring, not sharp at all, add to that he wasnt therefore mentally prepared for a tough night.
that was an incredibly poor prepared Fury.
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AJ hasn't ran and boxed anyone since Ruiz 2.
posted on 2/11/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury rematch will be a shut out
Usyk is the one that would actually embarass Francis
AJ runs to a victory
Wilder is the only one of the 4 that he ca win IMO.
he takes the Wilder fight first then fights the highest bidder for the other 3
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Fury rematch will be a shut out?
That's what they said about this fight.
AJ is going toe to toe and someone is going to sleep.
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AJ hasnt went toe to toe sing Ruiz 1.
Fury was massively underprepared, you cna see this with his timing of punch , so many times he was going wide to land them and had no distance management in his straight shots. thats classic signs of a boxer not spending much time sparring, not sharp at all, add to that he wasnt therefore mentally prepared for a tough night.
that was an incredibly poor prepared Fury.
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AJ hasn't ran and boxed anyone since Ruiz 2.
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I am still unsure what AJ's plan was versus Usyk,
Seemed to try and outbox him over 24 rounds.
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