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posted on 29/11/22

Didn't Disney release financials not too long ago...I'll be surprised if they are sold to Apple, who are trying to break into the tv market themselves.

Stranger things have happened though and mergers & acquisitions always rise in times of financial uncertainty because CEOs are appraised on share price and the quickest way to increase share prices are through extensive share buy backs or M&A

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didn't Disney release financials not too long ago...I'll be surprised if they are sold to Apple, who are trying to break into the tv market themselves.

Stranger things have happened though and mergers & acquisitions always rise in times of financial uncertainty because CEOs are appraised on share price and the quickest way to increase share prices are through extensive share buy backs or M&A
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stranger things is on netflix mate

posted on 29/11/22

People still watch Netflix??...in 2022?

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
People still watch Netflix??...in 2022?
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tbf stranger things is better than majority of Marvel tv

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 40 minutes ago
Anything to the rumour doing the rounds that Disney are contemplating selling to Apple?!

How much is Disney worth?
Over 100 Billion at least...
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Hope so, the woke direction that Disney are going and the significant drop in quality of phase 4 is a clear sign that big change is needed in that company.
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Hmm, I think Apple have a similar mindset to Disney.
Don’t think we’d see much change on the TV/Movie front.
May get more extreme tbh.

The Parks and Hotels now, they may significantly change for the better though, with their forward kind of thinking.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/11/22

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 46 minutes ago
And it was Steve Jobs that told Iger to make an offer to Lucas, as he had a hunch he’d be willing to sell.
That was 10 years ago... I wonder if at that dinner between the two men, there was another handshake under the table, so to speak.
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So we have Steve Jobs to thank for the Disney Star Wars trilogy then. Well errrr thanks Stevie boy.

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Based on what I have read,seen and heard, BA's box office failings are mainly due to the quality of the movie and DC's reputation. Possibly in the following proportions:

DC's current rep:30%
Quality of the movie: 50%
Other factors: 20%
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Even though the general audience rating on all mainstream review sites to this point are at very worst respectable and at best highly positive for this movie.

It's worst rating is a 6.8/10 on IMDb. Metacritic general audience review gives it 7.3/10 and Google reviews give it an average 8.8/10 general audience score.

So you'll have to show me where you're seeing all these poor general audience reviews you keep alluding to for this movie because I've yet to see them anywhere.
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IGN: 5/10 ( https://www.ign.com/articles/black-adam-review)

The Guardian: 2/5 (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/23/black-adam-review-the-rock-in-a-hard-place-in-superhero-dud-dc-marvel-dwayne-johnson)

Independent: 1/5 (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnson-dcu-b2208404.html)

Empire: 3/5 (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/black-adam/)

Den of Geek: 2.5/5 (https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/black-adam-review-not-even-dwayne-johnson-save-dc/)

Cinema Blend: 2.5/5 ( https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnsons-dc-debut-has-interesting-ideas-with-underwhelming-execution)

Screen Crush: 4/10 (https://screencrush.com/black-adam-movie-review/)


posted on 29/11/22

I don't trust general audience reviews - too easily manipulated.

posted on 29/11/22

The poor general audience score that's actually credible is called the box office - especially when its second weekend falls off a cliff, that's word of mouth in action.

posted on 29/11/22

comment by -NPE- (U22712)
posted 33 seconds ago
I don't trust general audience reviews - too easily manipulated.

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Agreed.

That's why I prefer actual opinions from people that have a reliable track record of reviewing movies.

posted on 29/11/22

I've never argued or stated that Black Adam's a bad movie, my only point is that the poor box office performance is most likely down to DC's bad reputation and the movie quality, in my opinion.

Also, I may not have see the entire movie but I've now caught up with all the action scenes on youtube.

Man of steel done it better.

posted on 29/11/22

I have little to no interest in seeing it and find the sort of partisan attitude over movie studios kinda boring. I am not going to defend a movie just because it's DC and I like DC more than marvel.

It looked naff and its box office and critic scores vindicate my scepticism.

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 46 minutes ago
And it was Steve Jobs that told Iger to make an offer to Lucas, as he had a hunch he’d be willing to sell.
That was 10 years ago... I wonder if at that dinner between the two men, there was another handshake under the table, so to speak.
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So we have Steve Jobs to thank for the Disney Star Wars trilogy then. Well errrr thanks Stevie boy.
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Well.. they are all intricately linked.
Way Back in the day, Lucas sold his animation department to Apple, who I think then named it Pixar, then in turn sold it to Disney.
I think Jobs was considering offering to buy Lucasfilm.

But then having lunch with Iger, Bob said he wanted to make another major purchase after Marvel, and Steve suggested give George a call, and his eyes lit up.

But George always believed, especially with Star Wars, that Disney was a perfect fit. And I believe that too.
The talent is there. The vision, not so much, and we all know who to blame.
But that was George’s doing, not Disney.

It’s like Sir Alex picking Moyes. As if you ain’t gonna listen to the great man. Unlike Utd who could’ve said no thanks Alex, Disney we’re blind sided, as Kennedy came part of the deal.
And here we are.

posted on 29/11/22

comment by -NPE- (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I have little to no interest in seeing it and find the sort of partisan attitude over movie studios kinda boring. I am not going to defend a movie just because it's DC and I like DC more than marvel.

It looked naff and its box office and critic scores vindicate my scepticism.
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You did call it. I think I was a little more optimistic than you were. I think you said it wouldn’t do 500 Milly.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/11/22

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Based on what I have read,seen and heard, BA's box office failings are mainly due to the quality of the movie and DC's reputation. Possibly in the following proportions:

DC's current rep:30%
Quality of the movie: 50%
Other factors: 20%
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Even though the general audience rating on all mainstream review sites to this point are at very worst respectable and at best highly positive for this movie.

It's worst rating is a 6.8/10 on IMDb. Metacritic general audience review gives it 7.3/10 and Google reviews give it an average 8.8/10 general audience score.

So you'll have to show me where you're seeing all these poor general audience reviews you keep alluding to for this movie because I've yet to see them anywhere.
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IGN: 5/10 ( https://www.ign.com/articles/black-adam-review)

The Guardian: 2/5 (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/23/black-adam-review-the-rock-in-a-hard-place-in-superhero-dud-dc-marvel-dwayne-johnson)

Independent: 1/5 (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnson-dcu-b2208404.html)

Empire: 3/5 (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/black-adam/)

Den of Geek: 2.5/5 (https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/black-adam-review-not-even-dwayne-johnson-save-dc/)

Cinema Blend: 2.5/5 ( https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnsons-dc-debut-has-interesting-ideas-with-underwhelming-execution)

Screen Crush: 4/10 (https://screencrush.com/black-adam-movie-review/)

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All you've done is produce some links to a few critics reviews . We already know it wasn't reviewed well by critics but that isn't what we've been talking about. We're talking about general audience reaction and reviews.

You can't gauge general audience reaction to a movie by critic reviews, they're often world's apart. None of your links work btw.

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Based on what I have read,seen and heard, BA's box office failings are mainly due to the quality of the movie and DC's reputation. Possibly in the following proportions:

DC's current rep:30%
Quality of the movie: 50%
Other factors: 20%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the general audience rating on all mainstream review sites to this point are at very worst respectable and at best highly positive for this movie.

It's worst rating is a 6.8/10 on IMDb. Metacritic general audience review gives it 7.3/10 and Google reviews give it an average 8.8/10 general audience score.

So you'll have to show me where you're seeing all these poor general audience reviews you keep alluding to for this movie because I've yet to see them anywhere.
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IGN: 5/10 ( https://www.ign.com/articles/black-adam-review)

The Guardian: 2/5 (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/23/black-adam-review-the-rock-in-a-hard-place-in-superhero-dud-dc-marvel-dwayne-johnson)

Independent: 1/5 (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnson-dcu-b2208404.html)

Empire: 3/5 (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/black-adam/)

Den of Geek: 2.5/5 (https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/black-adam-review-not-even-dwayne-johnson-save-dc/)

Cinema Blend: 2.5/5 ( https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnsons-dc-debut-has-interesting-ideas-with-underwhelming-execution)

Screen Crush: 4/10 (https://screencrush.com/black-adam-movie-review/)

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All you've done is produce some links to a few critics reviews. We already know it wasn't reviewed well by critics but that isn't what we've been talking about. We're talking about general audience reaction and reviews.

You can't gauge general audience reaction to a movie by critic reviews, they're often world's apart. None of your links work btw.
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I've given you a mix of critic and general reviews.

IGN review was done by the senior editor of the site. He's not a movie critic.

Cinemablend review was done by the assistant managing editor of the site. He's not a movie critic.

Den of Geek review was done by an entertainment journalist. He's not a movie critic.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/11/22

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 46 minutes ago
And it was Steve Jobs that told Iger to make an offer to Lucas, as he had a hunch he’d be willing to sell.
That was 10 years ago... I wonder if at that dinner between the two men, there was another handshake under the table, so to speak.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we have Steve Jobs to thank for the Disney Star Wars trilogy then. Well errrr thanks Stevie boy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well.. they are all intricately linked.
Way Back in the day, Lucas sold his animation department to Apple, who I think then named it Pixar, then in turn sold it to Disney.
I think Jobs was considering offering to buy Lucasfilm.

But then having lunch with Iger, Bob said he wanted to make another major purchase after Marvel, and Steve suggested give George a call, and his eyes lit up.

But George always believed, especially with Star Wars, that Disney was a perfect fit. And I believe that too.
The talent is there. The vision, not so much, and we all know who to blame.
But that was George’s doing, not Disney.

It’s like Sir Alex picking Moyes. As if you ain’t gonna listen to the great man. Unlike Utd who could’ve said no thanks Alex, Disney we’re blind sided, as Kennedy came part of the deal.
And here we are.

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Problem is Lucas knew full well that Kennedy would be taking over Lucasfilm and would be in full control of his creation so I'm not convinced we can say that Disney was the perfect fit.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/11/22

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Based on what I have read,seen and heard, BA's box office failings are mainly due to the quality of the movie and DC's reputation. Possibly in the following proportions:

DC's current rep:30%
Quality of the movie: 50%
Other factors: 20%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the general audience rating on all mainstream review sites to this point are at very worst respectable and at best highly positive for this movie.

It's worst rating is a 6.8/10 on IMDb. Metacritic general audience review gives it 7.3/10 and Google reviews give it an average 8.8/10 general audience score.

So you'll have to show me where you're seeing all these poor general audience reviews you keep alluding to for this movie because I've yet to see them anywhere.
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IGN: 5/10 ( https://www.ign.com/articles/black-adam-review)

The Guardian: 2/5 (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/23/black-adam-review-the-rock-in-a-hard-place-in-superhero-dud-dc-marvel-dwayne-johnson)

Independent: 1/5 (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnson-dcu-b2208404.html)

Empire: 3/5 (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/black-adam/)

Den of Geek: 2.5/5 (https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/black-adam-review-not-even-dwayne-johnson-save-dc/)

Cinema Blend: 2.5/5 ( https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/black-adam-review-dwayne-johnsons-dc-debut-has-interesting-ideas-with-underwhelming-execution)

Screen Crush: 4/10 (https://screencrush.com/black-adam-movie-review/)

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All you've done is produce some links to a few critics reviews. We already know it wasn't reviewed well by critics but that isn't what we've been talking about. We're talking about general audience reaction and reviews.

You can't gauge general audience reaction to a movie by critic reviews, they're often world's apart. None of your links work btw.
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I've given you a mix of critic and general reviews.

IGN review was done by the senior editor of the site. He's not a movie critic.

Cinemablend review was done by the assistant managing editor of the site. He's not a movie critic.

Den of Geek review was done by an entertainment journalist. He's not a movie critic.


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Ok thanks for letting me know what three people thought of the movie.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/11/22

The rumours about Indy 5 being an absolute disaster zone continue sadly:

https://youtu.be/am2UYowqhu8

posted on 29/11/22

Google reviews and IMDB are not a reliable source for general audience reaction.

Let me present some simple facts and I will let the people decide what they think.

IMDB reviews:
Black Widow: 6.7/10
Falcon & WS: 7.2/10
Wandavision: 7.9/10
Hawkeye: 7.5/10
Loki: 8.2/10
Moon Knight: 7.3/10

comment by Pun (U21588)

posted on 29/11/22

My God this is the most boring argument ever

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 week, 4 days ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 22 minutes ago
I never said they were negative.

But they certainly aren't largely positive,which is what you claimed.
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I've just showed you that they are largely positive on the biggest review sites on the internet. If you have something that counters that then by all means let's see it.
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What proof?

7/10 on Imdb does not equate to largely positive.
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Yes it does, anything that's a 7/10 or higher is surely a positive score. And the 7/10 on IMDb was actually the lowest general audience score I could find for it.
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posted on 29/11/22

I just have one question and I will move on.

Is the quality of Black Adam one of the main factors that the movie has not performed well at the box office?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 29/11/22

comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 7 minutes ago
My God this is the most boring argument ever
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Yup, even by Guv's normal standards this one is like pulling teeth

comment by Pun (U21588)

posted on 29/11/22

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