Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh another point, outside the US it got a restrictive rating in most markets. It was unlikely to ever get to a billion dollars. Joker is a real exception to the rule on that front.
Ended up making more than Deadpool and Logan in same age category.
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Ooh Deadpool 3… rumours of Affleck reprising his role of DareDevil. And other surprises, I think Deadpool gonna do massive numbers.
Deadpool 3 could save Marvel from its slump you're right.
My fear is they will tame it down and make it less risky after their last few movies failed to be big hits.
The Batman is hard to budget because it got delayed six months in the pandemic in terms of shooting which likely added to its production costs.
I reckon it was likely 180ish which was probably about 40-50m more than planned.
In hindsight, they should've taken a break after Endgame but instead they ramped up the output to a 100
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 8 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh another point, outside the US it got a restrictive rating in most markets. It was unlikely to ever get to a billion dollars. Joker is a real exception to the rule on that front.
Ended up making more than Deadpool and Logan in same age category.
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Ooh Deadpool 3… rumours of Affleck reprising his role of DareDevil. And other surprises, I think Deadpool gonna do massive numbers.
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Those rumours seem to have come from Affleck being spotted on the set. It is possible though.
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
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I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
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I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
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Well it was closer to 800m - as it was 771m
And that meant it made a profit pretty comfortably.
It also has to be put in context of
a) restrictive age rating in most markets
b) three hour movie with minimal action
c) much less starry cast than Nolan movies
d) DC's reputation is in the toilet
Does show the value of Batman as a brand compared to the rest of DC though.
If the movie had been the same plot but with a vigilante cop rather than Batman it would have made about $77m worldwide - such is the changing nature of the movie landscape.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
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I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
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The films runtime is 3hrs give or take…. The film finished about 30m short of 800m. I’d say it was a hit.
I mean, does a film have to hit a Billion to be a hit?
Batman box office - live action solo movies (plus BvS)
Dark Knight Rises - $1.08bn
Dark Knight - $1.006bn
BvS - $873.5m
The Batman - $770.7m
Batman - $441.6m
Batman Begins - $373.7m
Batman Forever - $336.6m
Batman Returns - $266.8m
Batman & Robin - $238.0m
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 10 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 4 minutes ago
The Flash's poor box office is probably due to a number of factors but I feel like the Ezra one is the biggest, as the movie seems to be doing unusually bad. Keaton was supposed to be a big draw and the trailers done a great job of selling the movie, yet the opening weekend wasn't great and if it does less than Black Adam, it would be an insult to the character of The Flash.
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As said above, I don't share this view because every DC movie is flopping and most people have no idea who Ezra Miller is.
Ezra not being a big star is more of a factor than their transgressions - which most aren't familiar with as they aren't familiar with him/them/it.
This isn't a defence on Ezra or anyone offended by Ezra's behaviour, it's probably a small factor but to me it's maybe 10-15 per cent of the reason.
For instance, on the theme DC is toxic - Rock is a much bigger star than anyone in the Flash and Black Adam flopped hard.
The Suicide Squad got a much better critical score and audience score (from those that showed up) but barely anyone saw it either.
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But my point is, The Flash seems to be doing really bad, compared to the others. This is a film that had great trailers and it had Keaton for the nostalgia. I can understand DC's bad reputation impacting box office but I think Ezra's actions have led to a greater downturn.
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
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The films runtime is 3hrs give or take…. The film finished about 30m short of 800m. I’d say it was a hit.
I mean, does a film have to hit a Billion to be a hit?
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Not necessarily but when a Batman movie is making 770m and a Thor movie is making 760m, I'd consider the former an underwhelming figure.
Naturally, there are several reasons as to why it done 770 but it's still below par for the character.
Another factor for the bad box office that has perhaps been overlooked is the economy and the cinema experience. People don't seem to be willing to visit the cinema as often and would rather wait for a streaming release. This trend may get broken for the odd visit, for films of higher interest, like Spiderverse but it seems the appetite has been reduced.
its a good opening film and made good money
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The films runtime is 3hrs give or take…. The film finished about 30m short of 800m. I’d say it was a hit.
I mean, does a film have to hit a Billion to be a hit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not necessarily but when a Batman movie is making 770m and a Thor movie is making 760m, I'd consider the former an underwhelming figure.
Naturally, there are several reasons as to why it done 770 but it's still below par for the character.
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I think most people were surprised tbh that The Batman beat Thor: Love and Thunder.
The Thor movie made $100m less than the previous one, and was probably expected to be closer to a billion.
The Batman was the first movie in a dark reboot from a discredit studio.
Also below par?
Not really - it made less than the last two Nolan films but otherwise it was very competitive and in line with expectations.
It made more than double Batman Begins for instance - a comparable first movie.
The Flash movie getting leaked on twitter can't have helped its BORE
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Also below par?
Not really - it made less than the last two Nolan films but otherwise it was very competitive and in line with expectations.
It made more than double Batman Begins for instance - a comparable first movie.
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I expected better, as it's a Batman film.
The Batman Begins comparison isn't credible to me, because it was the first time Batman had appeared on the big screen, coming off an 8 year dark winter, thanks to Batman and Robin ruining the franchise. Batman Begins done well, considering how low the expectations were.
Every Batman related film,post Batman Begins has made more than 850m, which is a number I would have thought achievable by The Batman.
But you have to take into consideration the runtime..
it’s a long ass movie. 770m return is pretty solid for a 3hr film no?
Considering where the DCEU was at the time, The Batman did very well. Both critically and in terms of BORE
And post covid needs to be considered, surely?
Next week's BORE needs to factor all of this into the details.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
And post covid needs to be considered, surely?
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Good point Fletch
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
And post covid needs to be considered, surely?
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Good point King
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posted on 25/6/23
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
posted on 26/6/23
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh another point, outside the US it got a restrictive rating in most markets. It was unlikely to ever get to a billion dollars. Joker is a real exception to the rule on that front.
Ended up making more than Deadpool and Logan in same age category.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ooh Deadpool 3… rumours of Affleck reprising his role of DareDevil. And other surprises, I think Deadpool gonna do massive numbers.
posted on 26/6/23
Deadpool 3 could save Marvel from its slump you're right.
My fear is they will tame it down and make it less risky after their last few movies failed to be big hits.
posted on 26/6/23
The Batman is hard to budget because it got delayed six months in the pandemic in terms of shooting which likely added to its production costs.
I reckon it was likely 180ish which was probably about 40-50m more than planned.
posted on 26/6/23
In hindsight, they should've taken a break after Endgame but instead they ramped up the output to a 100
posted on 26/6/23
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 8 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh another point, outside the US it got a restrictive rating in most markets. It was unlikely to ever get to a billion dollars. Joker is a real exception to the rule on that front.
Ended up making more than Deadpool and Logan in same age category.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ooh Deadpool 3… rumours of Affleck reprising his role of DareDevil. And other surprises, I think Deadpool gonna do massive numbers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those rumours seem to have come from Affleck being spotted on the set. It is possible though.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well it was closer to 800m - as it was 771m
And that meant it made a profit pretty comfortably.
It also has to be put in context of
a) restrictive age rating in most markets
b) three hour movie with minimal action
c) much less starry cast than Nolan movies
d) DC's reputation is in the toilet
Does show the value of Batman as a brand compared to the rest of DC though.
If the movie had been the same plot but with a vigilante cop rather than Batman it would have made about $77m worldwide - such is the changing nature of the movie landscape.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The films runtime is 3hrs give or take…. The film finished about 30m short of 800m. I’d say it was a hit.
I mean, does a film have to hit a Billion to be a hit?
posted on 26/6/23
Batman box office - live action solo movies (plus BvS)
Dark Knight Rises - $1.08bn
Dark Knight - $1.006bn
BvS - $873.5m
The Batman - $770.7m
Batman - $441.6m
Batman Begins - $373.7m
Batman Forever - $336.6m
Batman Returns - $266.8m
Batman & Robin - $238.0m
posted on 26/6/23
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 10 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 4 minutes ago
The Flash's poor box office is probably due to a number of factors but I feel like the Ezra one is the biggest, as the movie seems to be doing unusually bad. Keaton was supposed to be a big draw and the trailers done a great job of selling the movie, yet the opening weekend wasn't great and if it does less than Black Adam, it would be an insult to the character of The Flash.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As said above, I don't share this view because every DC movie is flopping and most people have no idea who Ezra Miller is.
Ezra not being a big star is more of a factor than their transgressions - which most aren't familiar with as they aren't familiar with him/them/it.
This isn't a defence on Ezra or anyone offended by Ezra's behaviour, it's probably a small factor but to me it's maybe 10-15 per cent of the reason.
For instance, on the theme DC is toxic - Rock is a much bigger star than anyone in the Flash and Black Adam flopped hard.
The Suicide Squad got a much better critical score and audience score (from those that showed up) but barely anyone saw it either.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But my point is, The Flash seems to be doing really bad, compared to the others. This is a film that had great trailers and it had Keaton for the nostalgia. I can understand DC's bad reputation impacting box office but I think Ezra's actions have led to a greater downturn.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The films runtime is 3hrs give or take…. The film finished about 30m short of 800m. I’d say it was a hit.
I mean, does a film have to hit a Billion to be a hit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not necessarily but when a Batman movie is making 770m and a Thor movie is making 760m, I'd consider the former an underwhelming figure.
Naturally, there are several reasons as to why it done 770 but it's still below par for the character.
posted on 26/6/23
Another factor for the bad box office that has perhaps been overlooked is the economy and the cinema experience. People don't seem to be willing to visit the cinema as often and would rather wait for a streaming release. This trend may get broken for the odd visit, for films of higher interest, like Spiderverse but it seems the appetite has been reduced.
posted on 26/6/23
its a good opening film and made good money
posted on 26/6/23
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
Wow. Last I checked Reeves himself said the budget was $100m…
At the time I thought that was cobblers… and then suddenly there’s other reports of $200m.
Whatever it was, it was a Financial hit, but The Batmans budget does remain a mystery..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't consider it a financial hit. 700m for a Batman movie isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The films runtime is 3hrs give or take…. The film finished about 30m short of 800m. I’d say it was a hit.
I mean, does a film have to hit a Billion to be a hit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not necessarily but when a Batman movie is making 770m and a Thor movie is making 760m, I'd consider the former an underwhelming figure.
Naturally, there are several reasons as to why it done 770 but it's still below par for the character.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think most people were surprised tbh that The Batman beat Thor: Love and Thunder.
The Thor movie made $100m less than the previous one, and was probably expected to be closer to a billion.
The Batman was the first movie in a dark reboot from a discredit studio.
posted on 26/6/23
Also below par?
Not really - it made less than the last two Nolan films but otherwise it was very competitive and in line with expectations.
It made more than double Batman Begins for instance - a comparable first movie.
posted on 26/6/23
The Flash movie getting leaked on twitter can't have helped its BORE
posted on 26/6/23
comment by NPE - Bottom Half FC (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Also below par?
Not really - it made less than the last two Nolan films but otherwise it was very competitive and in line with expectations.
It made more than double Batman Begins for instance - a comparable first movie.
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I expected better, as it's a Batman film.
The Batman Begins comparison isn't credible to me, because it was the first time Batman had appeared on the big screen, coming off an 8 year dark winter, thanks to Batman and Robin ruining the franchise. Batman Begins done well, considering how low the expectations were.
Every Batman related film,post Batman Begins has made more than 850m, which is a number I would have thought achievable by The Batman.
posted on 26/6/23
But you have to take into consideration the runtime..
it’s a long ass movie. 770m return is pretty solid for a 3hr film no?
posted on 26/6/23
Considering where the DCEU was at the time, The Batman did very well. Both critically and in terms of BORE
posted on 26/6/23
And post covid needs to be considered, surely?
posted on 26/6/23
Yeah also that
posted on 26/6/23
Next week's BORE needs to factor all of this into the details.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
And post covid needs to be considered, surely?
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Good point Fletch
posted on 26/6/23
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
And post covid needs to be considered, surely?
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Good point King
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