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posted on 14/8/18

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 0 seconds ago
Aren't White People the minority in London and Birmingham?

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1. I don't believe this stat
2. And so what if they are?
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Then we'd have to remove minority from BEM
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So the FA only deals in London and Birmingham?
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2 biggest cities in England is a pretty good reference wouldn't you say ?
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No I wouldn't say. I went to university in Southampton- I was the only black student in my class of 220. I hardly saw a lot of black people around town as well.

On the 2011 census, there were only 3% black people in the UK. This 10-15 years you mentioned is absolute rubbish
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Wasn't talking.about Southampton.or black people
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I know you were not. I made that point to tell you come out of these big cities, you hardly see any black or ethnic minorities. The FA from my knowledge cover the whole of the UK
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Therefore, as black people make up 3% of the population, they are doing well in EPL, compared to white, and especially Asian players!

How can we get more white and Asian players in the top flight?
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But white people are heavily represented in the EPL? Asians- create a pathway to get them into the sport.

posted on 14/8/18

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 0 seconds ago
Aren't White People the minority in London and Birmingham?

..............................

1. I don't believe this stat
2. And so what if they are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then we'd have to remove minority from BEM
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the FA only deals in London and Birmingham?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2 biggest cities in England is a pretty good reference wouldn't you say ?
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No I wouldn't say. I went to university in Southampton- I was the only black student in my class of 220. I hardly saw a lot of black people around town as well.

On the 2011 census, there were only 3% black people in the UK. This 10-15 years you mentioned is absolute rubbish
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Wasn't talking.about Southampton.or black people
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I know you were not. I made that point to tell you come out of these big cities, you hardly see any black or ethnic minorities. The FA from my knowledge cover the whole of the UK
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Therefore, as black people make up 3% of the population, they are doing well in EPL, compared to white, and especially Asian players!

How can we get more white and Asian players in the top flight?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But white people are heavily represented in the EPL? Asians- create a pathway to get them into the sport.
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Black and mixed race players are hugely over represented within football when you consider what percentage of the population this ethnic group makes up.

posted on 14/8/18

I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.

posted on 14/8/18

100% of ex professionals who have gone on to presenting home renovations programmes are black so it all evens out in the end really.

posted on 14/8/18

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 21 seconds ago
I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.
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Which is fine. Perhaps non BAME are superior managers?

posted on 14/8/18

This has nothing to do with players anyway, it’s about the FA and coaching.

posted on 14/8/18

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 21 seconds ago
I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.
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Which is fine. Perhaps non BAME are superior managers?
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Ye racial genetics is a very sticky avenue to go down. Some real issues if we find out more about the genetics of intelligence and find these are greater amongst Caucasians. It's currently not a problem because all the positive genetic discoveries have been pro ethnic minorities so fits in ok with PC culture.

posted on 14/8/18

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 21 seconds ago
I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.
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Which is fine. Perhaps non BAME are superior managers?
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I have no doubt they are. My argument here is that there is nothing wrong for creating pathways to better others

posted on 14/8/18

comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 21 seconds ago
I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is fine. Perhaps non BAME are superior managers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ye racial genetics is a very sticky avenue to go down. Some real issues if we find out more about the genetics of intelligence and find these are greater amongst Caucasians. It's currently not a problem because all the positive genetic discoveries have been pro ethnic minorities so fits in ok with PC culture.
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Whether this is to do with genetics, or denying some people the right to education for years also plays a debate for another day.

posted on 14/8/18

Should we create special pathways for under privileged white children to become doctors and nurses?

posted on 14/8/18

Don will have had a heart attack reading the BBC article

posted on 14/8/18

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 1 minute ago
Should we create special pathways for under privileged white children to become doctors and nurses?
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I beliebe so, yes. During my dissertation, I found out that they actually have the lowest GCSE grades in the country. A group that definitely needs special attention.

Tyler, I am not one to shout out give black people everything. I am also not an idiot, this world is not black and white.

This idea that the best man should just get a job is a simple way of looking at things.

posted on 14/8/18

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 1 minute ago
Should we create special pathways for under privileged white children to become doctors and nurses?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I beliebe so, yes. During my dissertation, I found out that they actually have the lowest GCSE grades in the country. A group that definitely needs special attention.

Tyler, I am not one to shout out give black people everything. I am also not an idiot, this world is not black and white.

This idea that the best man should just get a job is a simple way of looking at things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's the fairest

posted on 14/8/18

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 21 seconds ago
I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is fine. Perhaps non BAME are superior managers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have no doubt they are. My argument here is that there is nothing wrong for creating pathways to better others
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Well I don't think it's wrong as such but that they are spending time money that could be better spent in getting more British players into the league.

It causes no harm so I do agree that creating pathways can be beneficial if not getting more jobs for BAME people, at least for showing them that they aren't being discriminated against but quite the opposite. Which can only be a good thing.

posted on 15/8/18

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 10 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 21 seconds ago
I believe they also are in American football. Some scientist will tell you it is because genetically they are superior athletes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is fine. Perhaps non BAME are superior managers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ye racial genetics is a very sticky avenue to go down. Some real issues if we find out more about the genetics of intelligence and find these are greater amongst Caucasians. It's currently not a problem because all the positive genetic discoveries have been pro ethnic minorities so fits in ok with PC culture.
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Whether this is to do with genetics, or denying some people the right to education for years also plays a debate for another day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not really. Intelligence and Education aren't synonymous. There have been some very intelligent illiterates throughout history.

posted on 15/8/18

I completely agree that being academic is not the same as being intelligent. Muhammed Ali i my opinion was a prime example of this.

In the realms of what we are talking about, some of the best coaches today have/had access to world class education in coaching.

posted on 15/8/18

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 1 minute ago
Should we create special pathways for under privileged white children to become doctors and nurses?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I beliebe so, yes. During my dissertation, I found out that they actually have the lowest GCSE grades in the country. A group that definitely needs special attention.

Tyler, I am not one to shout out give black people everything. I am also not an idiot, this world is not black and white.

This idea that the best man should just get a job is a simple way of looking at things.
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It's the fairest
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If you think it is that black and white that's your prerogative.

I told you i personally hate the Rooney rule, I also see its merits. Maybe you should read up on how many Black coaches/ managers have been involved in Super bowl championships since its inception. Showing clearly that they are capable- maybe, just maybe they never had the chance prior.

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