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comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 20 minutes ago
For me, as a someone whose family is from a place that has sanctions now and again, sanctions don't work and in fact have a negative effect
It's like the whole brexit thing. If it does fack up the country likes of Boris and Rees mogg will not feel the pinch. What will happen is that people on the ground will look for someone to blame. In UK.its usually immigrants
On world scale it's usually the USA and Britain and you get your 9/11s at an extreme.
Generally though you just get a hatred for the "west" and the likes of Putin are hero worshipped for standing up to the west thus cementing their power status
Conspiracy theorist may say that's what the plan is
Looking at Saddam and gaddaffi it certainly was
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Really interesting post and I agree with this, can I ask where you are from?
I remember reading about how sanctions in developing nations can have a quantifiable death toll but my understanding was that the Russian sanctions were specifically financial, so would be better targeted at the elites for want of a better term.
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 24 minutes ago
For me, as a someone whose family is from a place that has sanctions now and again, sanctions don't work and in fact have a negative effect
It's like the whole brexit thing. If it does fack up the country likes of Boris and Rees mogg will not feel the pinch. What will happen is that people on the ground will look for someone to blame. In UK.its usually immigrants
On world scale it's usually the USA and Britain and you get your 9/11s at an extreme.
Generally though you just get a hatred for the "west" and the likes of Putin are hero worshipped for standing up to the west thus cementing their power status
Conspiracy theorist may say that's what the plan is
Looking at Saddam and gaddaffi it certainly was
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Sounds to me like there is no solution then
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F... All to do with football though is it?
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comment by IfUNo (U4755)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Girth Wagon (U3245)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by IfUNo (U4755)
posted 1 minute ago
When are British people going to wake up and realise that the UK is an irrelevance in world affiars in the 21st Century
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1 of the 9 countries in the world with nukes though
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So we're in the top 10 then
weird that we dont get along with countries that dont have a central bank, very few left now, most of the others have been invaded and now have one established
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa52TWoUFCk
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 5 minutes ago
weird that we dont get along with countries that dont have a central bank, very few left now, most of the others have been invaded and now have one established
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And don't use the petrodollar
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It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 seconds ago
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
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You began this debate by citing “there is zero proof that russia hacked the dnc emails.”
If your theory is correct, the global intelligence community are all either inept or corrupt.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 seconds ago
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
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You began this debate by citing “there is zero proof that russia hacked the dnc emails.”
If your theory is correct, the global intelligence community are all either inept or corrupt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look how dodgy the trump Russia collusion is and you have your peoof, the military industrial complex is a dangerous thing
comment by definitely not hippo (U1301)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Putin is not a bad guy like Bush and Blair who have invaded a country on lies and killed a half million people.
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????????
google "ukraine" and "war"
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google crimea votes to join russia and the odessa massacre
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by definitely not hippo (U1301)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Putin is not a bad guy like Bush and Blair who have invaded a country on lies and killed a half million people.
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????????
google "ukraine" and "war"
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google crimea votes to join russia and the odessa massacre
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That refutes nothing
What are you guys even arguing about
Most of the english are brainwashed by the Sun and Daily fail fake news and I exclude the Scots as they are people of peace and don't want going around stealing resources from other countries.
The problem you have with England is their economy is service based and contributes for 80% of their GDP.
Your lot don't produce or manufacture anything of note like the Germans, Japanese or South Koreans.
So don't say your economy is strong because it only takes one financial crash like the one in 2008 and the country is in big trouble. Thatcher have sold the country to those big financial institutions in the City.
Russia has more natural resources and Putin is doing his best for his people that is why most Russians are happy with him.
Corbery is a guy who can save Britain not those right wing hawks nationalists.
So don't say your economy is strong because it only takes one financial crash like the one in 2008 and the country is in big trouble.
Were there any countries not affected by that financial crash?
I exclude the Scots as they are people of peace
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Haha, classic
comment by (U21947)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 seconds ago
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
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You began this debate by citing “there is zero proof that russia hacked the dnc emails.”
If your theory is correct, the global intelligence community are all either inept or corrupt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look how dodgy the trump Russia collusion is and you have your peoof, the military industrial complex is a dangerous thing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look at the trump Russia investigation, the papudapluous guy was indicted for meeting a guy called misfud who was allegedly a Russian spy. It turns out that misfud has connections to MI6 and is even pictured with Boris Johnson
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posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 20 minutes ago
For me, as a someone whose family is from a place that has sanctions now and again, sanctions don't work and in fact have a negative effect
It's like the whole brexit thing. If it does fack up the country likes of Boris and Rees mogg will not feel the pinch. What will happen is that people on the ground will look for someone to blame. In UK.its usually immigrants
On world scale it's usually the USA and Britain and you get your 9/11s at an extreme.
Generally though you just get a hatred for the "west" and the likes of Putin are hero worshipped for standing up to the west thus cementing their power status
Conspiracy theorist may say that's what the plan is
Looking at Saddam and gaddaffi it certainly was
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really interesting post and I agree with this, can I ask where you are from?
I remember reading about how sanctions in developing nations can have a quantifiable death toll but my understanding was that the Russian sanctions were specifically financial, so would be better targeted at the elites for want of a better term.
posted on 19/9/18
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 24 minutes ago
For me, as a someone whose family is from a place that has sanctions now and again, sanctions don't work and in fact have a negative effect
It's like the whole brexit thing. If it does fack up the country likes of Boris and Rees mogg will not feel the pinch. What will happen is that people on the ground will look for someone to blame. In UK.its usually immigrants
On world scale it's usually the USA and Britain and you get your 9/11s at an extreme.
Generally though you just get a hatred for the "west" and the likes of Putin are hero worshipped for standing up to the west thus cementing their power status
Conspiracy theorist may say that's what the plan is
Looking at Saddam and gaddaffi it certainly was
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds to me like there is no solution then
posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
F... All to do with football though is it?
posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
comment by IfUNo (U4755)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Girth Wagon (U3245)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by IfUNo (U4755)
posted 1 minute ago
When are British people going to wake up and realise that the UK is an irrelevance in world affiars in the 21st Century
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1 of the 9 countries in the world with nukes though
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So we're in the top 10 then
posted on 19/9/18
weird that we dont get along with countries that dont have a central bank, very few left now, most of the others have been invaded and now have one established
posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa52TWoUFCk
posted on 19/9/18
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 5 minutes ago
weird that we dont get along with countries that dont have a central bank, very few left now, most of the others have been invaded and now have one established
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And don't use the petrodollar
posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
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posted on 19/9/18
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
posted on 19/9/18
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 seconds ago
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
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You began this debate by citing “there is zero proof that russia hacked the dnc emails.”
If your theory is correct, the global intelligence community are all either inept or corrupt.
posted on 19/9/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 seconds ago
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You began this debate by citing “there is zero proof that russia hacked the dnc emails.”
If your theory is correct, the global intelligence community are all either inept or corrupt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look how dodgy the trump Russia collusion is and you have your peoof, the military industrial complex is a dangerous thing
posted on 19/9/18
comment by definitely not hippo (U1301)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Putin is not a bad guy like Bush and Blair who have invaded a country on lies and killed a half million people.
---------------------
????????
google "ukraine" and "war"
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google crimea votes to join russia and the odessa massacre
posted on 19/9/18
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by definitely not hippo (U1301)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Putin is not a bad guy like Bush and Blair who have invaded a country on lies and killed a half million people.
---------------------
????????
google "ukraine" and "war"
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google crimea votes to join russia and the odessa massacre
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That refutes nothing
posted on 19/9/18
What are you guys even arguing about
posted on 19/9/18
Most of the english are brainwashed by the Sun and Daily fail fake news and I exclude the Scots as they are people of peace and don't want going around stealing resources from other countries.
The problem you have with England is their economy is service based and contributes for 80% of their GDP.
Your lot don't produce or manufacture anything of note like the Germans, Japanese or South Koreans.
So don't say your economy is strong because it only takes one financial crash like the one in 2008 and the country is in big trouble. Thatcher have sold the country to those big financial institutions in the City.
Russia has more natural resources and Putin is doing his best for his people that is why most Russians are happy with him.
Corbery is a guy who can save Britain not those right wing hawks nationalists.
posted on 19/9/18
So don't say your economy is strong because it only takes one financial crash like the one in 2008 and the country is in big trouble.
Were there any countries not affected by that financial crash?
posted on 19/9/18
I exclude the Scots as they are people of peace
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Haha, classic
posted on 19/9/18
comment by (U21947)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U21947)
posted 4 seconds ago
It was leaked from inside the DNc by a Bernie Sanders supporter, remember him the guy who got the primary stolen from him, who passed onto Craig murray who worked for wikileaks, you gmahould stop reading propaganda wikileaks doesn't have a connection to Russian intelligence, by the way a couple of FBI agents went to Iceland for the purpose of framing Julian Assange
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You began this debate by citing “there is zero proof that russia hacked the dnc emails.”
If your theory is correct, the global intelligence community are all either inept or corrupt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look how dodgy the trump Russia collusion is and you have your peoof, the military industrial complex is a dangerous thing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look at the trump Russia investigation, the papudapluous guy was indicted for meeting a guy called misfud who was allegedly a Russian spy. It turns out that misfud has connections to MI6 and is even pictured with Boris Johnson
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