comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 29 minutes ago
'Brexit deal is almost done'.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice one.👍
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The withdrawal text has been agreed.
Next it has to pass the cabinet, parliament (at present a mathematical impossibility), then the EU parliament, and finally the council for ratification.
The next stage is 'future relationship' which will take anything (assuming objective remains to leave the SM/CU and broker a FTA) from 3 to 6/7 years.
This however can only be achieved when the technology is invented to mitigate rule of origin checks at borders.
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/roi_e/roi_e.htm
Note the masses of tech companies (none) fighting to procure this lucrative tender...
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 34 minutes ago
he fact that millions of people across the country were duped into believing Brexit represented taking back control is a travesty
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The scots and northern Irish weren't duped looking at the results but will still end up leaving anyway
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And will probably end up with Scotland leaving the UK.
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As well as Northern Ireland
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Yeh I bet all those workers at the bottom of the wage scale, ie cleaners, care workers, refuge collectors are really jumping through hoops at their new found wealth of a 1p a year payrise.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 34 minutes ago
he fact that millions of people across the country were duped into believing Brexit represented taking back control is a travesty
_____
The scots and northern Irish weren't duped looking at the results but will still end up leaving anyway
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And will probably end up with Scotland leaving the UK.
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every cloud.........
comment by sandy YNWA (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Yeh I bet all those workers at the bottom of the wage scale, ie cleaners, care workers, refuge collectors are really jumping through hoops at their new found wealth of a 1p a year payrise.
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They're most likely to be the ones who voted for it
All depends on how this is implemented. Homegrown or a UK National could be reclassified as being a UK resident for at least 5 years in which case, players could feasibly apply to be British nationals in order to help the club meet the quotas. That’s what happened to me on Football Manager 18.
It’s all conjecture at the moment as to how this is implemented. Not too sure how a ‘you have to sell some of your foreign talent’ could go down legally, as clubs could just claim an acceptable offer wasn’t made for their player
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Biggest wage rises....
Have you factored in the fact that the cost of everything has gone up and will go up further when Brexit kicks in? So people are actually worse off despite their minimal wage rise? The only reason the wage rise has happened is due to the level of inflation after the Brexit vote, to help combat it. You'd hopefully not be surprised if it were pointed out to you that when the government 'combats' such things, they give you less than the level of inflation. Therefore you're worse off. Although to be fair this has been happening for years. One thing is for sure, it isn't a positive for Brexit.
I'm going to take a stab and suggest you haven't taken this into account.
Its already caused damage to my company- letters to Raab seeking clarification regarding the two contracts we have with the EU have not even had an acknowledgement - reinforcing our view that the Government is not coping with the changes and are in chaos. So we have now started to create an office in France, not ideal but will safeguard the current jobs under the EU contract and preserve our chances of getting further contracts.
That’s what happened to me on Football Manager 18.
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All we need is Liam Fox to play a career on Elite (trading game) so he can learn how to do some good trading deals
Average weekly wages are still lower than the 2008 levels achieved before the financial crisis, remaining £31 below the pre-crisis average. The annual rate of growth in pay is still lower than the averages seen in the run-up to the financial crisis, when wages often rose by about 5%.
Also it would be interesting to see your figures on how this wage increase is the result of a fall in migration, considering the wage increase was actually made due to rising inflation, caused by the Brexit vote, to my knowledge. I'll wait.
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It’s appalling that the lowest earners, (just about managing) across the country, (many of whom were promised all of the UK’s problems could be solved by Brexit, and voted leave in good faith) will be hardest impacted by the inevitable economic downturn.
Insulated fraudsters like JRM are happy to cite fantasists like Patrick Minford (economists for Brexit) as a reason to leave.
Minford (an absolute head case) informed the HoC’s select committee that Brexit will put an end to the UK’s agri-food sector (by removing all tariff and non-tariff barriers) and that Brexit will eliminate the manufacturing industry.
“You are going to have to run it down..” he professed. “In the same way we did with the coal industry.” UK manufacturing employs around 2.6 million people. Collateral damage.
But multimillionaire Mogg will be insulated from austerity, and being the hypocrite he is, has taken measures to protect is own interests by moving his investment management company (Somerset Capital Management) out of the UK into Ireland, so they can continue to serve their clients.
https://www.ft.com/content/38987fe2-6f19-11e8-92d3-6c13e5c92914
Run it down = run people out of jobs
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Biggest wage rises....
Have you factored in the fact that the cost of everything has gone up and will go up further when Brexit kicks in? So people are actually worse off despite their minimal wage rise? The only reason the wage rise has happened is due to the level of inflation after the Brexit vote, to help combat it. You'd hopefully not be surprised if it were pointed out to you that when the government 'combats' such things, they give you less than the level of inflation. Therefore you're worse off. Although to be fair this has been happening for years. One thing is for sure, it isn't a positive for Brexit.
I'm going to take a stab and suggest you haven't taken this into account.
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Wages have risen higher than the rate of inflation
No for the last 6 months.
So Germany have posted a negative growth this quarter, wonder on who we can blame that on
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bostonwolf (U17353)
posted 11 minutes ago
So the answer is, stay in the EU and become a vassal
state under the control of a system that despises GB and will drive us into subservience. The EU is run by Germany, assisted by its French poodle.
The only winners in the Euro states are those two and our supposed vote is equivalent to Malta.
CRAZY.
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We got our way 95% of the time in the EU, had a veto, kept our own currency, would not bail out anybody.
How we chucked this away to placate uninformed people is a mystery to me.
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because we are one of the few that put in not take out you clown
Still crying I see, is one thread not enough for your tears
If only we had known that the remainers were all the super intelligent ones
Good luck with bailing out Italy next if we had stayed
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It's also going to be hilarious when Ukraine, Serbia and macedonia joins the eu, half of their population is going to go to Germany and France, plus paying them billions every year
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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Didn't these same people say that all of the banking jobs would be leaving
comment by (U21947)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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Didn't these same people say that all of the banking jobs would be leaving
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Have you been paying attention?
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1061554026284834817?s=19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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I am not sure abt that. As you know I was pro Brexit but recognised that there maybe a medium term recession especially because of the ignorant man now in the white house. However it very much depends on how the UK positions itself globally. I think Trump is on his way out one way or another and I suspect whoever takesover will reinstitute TTIP and TPP.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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The true measure of wealth is the ability for the economy to generate it. The economy only had to shrink less than 1% for the benefits of leaving the EU to be outweighed by the costs.
Since the referendum the economy has shrunk by 2.5% - and we haven't even left yet.
Anybody who still thinks we are better off financially after leaving the EU, in the short and medium term, is either a fantasist or too consumed by their own doctrine to consider the facts. In the long term nobody really knows with certainty, but an economy that is so reliant on services as ours will need trade deals as a necessity.
Other perceived benefits/concerns of leaving the EU are worthy of debate (such as this football one), but being financially better off as a result really isn't. We won't be!!
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posted on 14/11/18
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 29 minutes ago
'Brexit deal is almost done'.
=======================
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice one.👍
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The withdrawal text has been agreed.
Next it has to pass the cabinet, parliament (at present a mathematical impossibility), then the EU parliament, and finally the council for ratification.
The next stage is 'future relationship' which will take anything (assuming objective remains to leave the SM/CU and broker a FTA) from 3 to 6/7 years.
This however can only be achieved when the technology is invented to mitigate rule of origin checks at borders.
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/roi_e/roi_e.htm
Note the masses of tech companies (none) fighting to procure this lucrative tender...
posted on 14/11/18
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 34 minutes ago
he fact that millions of people across the country were duped into believing Brexit represented taking back control is a travesty
_____
The scots and northern Irish weren't duped looking at the results but will still end up leaving anyway
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And will probably end up with Scotland leaving the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As well as Northern Ireland
posted on 14/11/18
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
posted on 14/11/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Yeh I bet all those workers at the bottom of the wage scale, ie cleaners, care workers, refuge collectors are really jumping through hoops at their new found wealth of a 1p a year payrise.
posted on 14/11/18
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 34 minutes ago
he fact that millions of people across the country were duped into believing Brexit represented taking back control is a travesty
_____
The scots and northern Irish weren't duped looking at the results but will still end up leaving anyway
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And will probably end up with Scotland leaving the UK.
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every cloud.........
posted on 14/11/18
comment by sandy YNWA (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Yeh I bet all those workers at the bottom of the wage scale, ie cleaners, care workers, refuge collectors are really jumping through hoops at their new found wealth of a 1p a year payrise.
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They're most likely to be the ones who voted for it
posted on 14/11/18
All depends on how this is implemented. Homegrown or a UK National could be reclassified as being a UK resident for at least 5 years in which case, players could feasibly apply to be British nationals in order to help the club meet the quotas. That’s what happened to me on Football Manager 18.
It’s all conjecture at the moment as to how this is implemented. Not too sure how a ‘you have to sell some of your foreign talent’ could go down legally, as clubs could just claim an acceptable offer wasn’t made for their player
posted on 14/11/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Biggest wage rises....
Have you factored in the fact that the cost of everything has gone up and will go up further when Brexit kicks in? So people are actually worse off despite their minimal wage rise? The only reason the wage rise has happened is due to the level of inflation after the Brexit vote, to help combat it. You'd hopefully not be surprised if it were pointed out to you that when the government 'combats' such things, they give you less than the level of inflation. Therefore you're worse off. Although to be fair this has been happening for years. One thing is for sure, it isn't a positive for Brexit.
I'm going to take a stab and suggest you haven't taken this into account.
posted on 14/11/18
Its already caused damage to my company- letters to Raab seeking clarification regarding the two contracts we have with the EU have not even had an acknowledgement - reinforcing our view that the Government is not coping with the changes and are in chaos. So we have now started to create an office in France, not ideal but will safeguard the current jobs under the EU contract and preserve our chances of getting further contracts.
posted on 14/11/18
That’s what happened to me on Football Manager 18.
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All we need is Liam Fox to play a career on Elite (trading game) so he can learn how to do some good trading deals
posted on 14/11/18
Average weekly wages are still lower than the 2008 levels achieved before the financial crisis, remaining £31 below the pre-crisis average. The annual rate of growth in pay is still lower than the averages seen in the run-up to the financial crisis, when wages often rose by about 5%.
Also it would be interesting to see your figures on how this wage increase is the result of a fall in migration, considering the wage increase was actually made due to rising inflation, caused by the Brexit vote, to my knowledge. I'll wait.
posted on 14/11/18
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posted on 14/11/18
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posted on 14/11/18
It’s appalling that the lowest earners, (just about managing) across the country, (many of whom were promised all of the UK’s problems could be solved by Brexit, and voted leave in good faith) will be hardest impacted by the inevitable economic downturn.
Insulated fraudsters like JRM are happy to cite fantasists like Patrick Minford (economists for Brexit) as a reason to leave.
Minford (an absolute head case) informed the HoC’s select committee that Brexit will put an end to the UK’s agri-food sector (by removing all tariff and non-tariff barriers) and that Brexit will eliminate the manufacturing industry.
“You are going to have to run it down..” he professed. “In the same way we did with the coal industry.” UK manufacturing employs around 2.6 million people. Collateral damage.
But multimillionaire Mogg will be insulated from austerity, and being the hypocrite he is, has taken measures to protect is own interests by moving his investment management company (Somerset Capital Management) out of the UK into Ireland, so they can continue to serve their clients.
https://www.ft.com/content/38987fe2-6f19-11e8-92d3-6c13e5c92914
posted on 14/11/18
Run it down = run people out of jobs
posted on 14/11/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
How brexit effects football is that last thing I care about. biggest wage rises in a decade, first time the number of people on zero hours contracts has gone down in a decade, due to the fall in net migration figures since the referendum.
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Biggest wage rises....
Have you factored in the fact that the cost of everything has gone up and will go up further when Brexit kicks in? So people are actually worse off despite their minimal wage rise? The only reason the wage rise has happened is due to the level of inflation after the Brexit vote, to help combat it. You'd hopefully not be surprised if it were pointed out to you that when the government 'combats' such things, they give you less than the level of inflation. Therefore you're worse off. Although to be fair this has been happening for years. One thing is for sure, it isn't a positive for Brexit.
I'm going to take a stab and suggest you haven't taken this into account.
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Wages have risen higher than the rate of inflation
posted on 14/11/18
since 2008? total balls.
posted on 14/11/18
No for the last 6 months.
posted on 14/11/18
So Germany have posted a negative growth this quarter, wonder on who we can blame that on
posted on 14/11/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
posted on 14/11/18
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bostonwolf (U17353)
posted 11 minutes ago
So the answer is, stay in the EU and become a vassal
state under the control of a system that despises GB and will drive us into subservience. The EU is run by Germany, assisted by its French poodle.
The only winners in the Euro states are those two and our supposed vote is equivalent to Malta.
CRAZY.
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We got our way 95% of the time in the EU, had a veto, kept our own currency, would not bail out anybody.
How we chucked this away to placate uninformed people is a mystery to me.
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because we are one of the few that put in not take out you clown
Still crying I see, is one thread not enough for your tears
If only we had known that the remainers were all the super intelligent ones
Good luck with bailing out Italy next if we had stayed
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It's also going to be hilarious when Ukraine, Serbia and macedonia joins the eu, half of their population is going to go to Germany and France, plus paying them billions every year
posted on 14/11/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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Didn't these same people say that all of the banking jobs would be leaving
posted on 14/11/18
comment by (U21947)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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Didn't these same people say that all of the banking jobs would be leaving
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Have you been paying attention?
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1061554026284834817?s=19
posted on 14/11/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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I am not sure abt that. As you know I was pro Brexit but recognised that there maybe a medium term recession especially because of the ignorant man now in the white house. However it very much depends on how the UK positions itself globally. I think Trump is on his way out one way or another and I suspect whoever takesover will reinstitute TTIP and TPP.
posted on 14/11/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 17 seconds ago
No for the last 6 months.
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Of course there will be fluctuations short term (look at the economic growth during the summer / world cup) but long term (post Brexit) every recognised forecast (including the UKG's) recognise there will be a downturn.
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The true measure of wealth is the ability for the economy to generate it. The economy only had to shrink less than 1% for the benefits of leaving the EU to be outweighed by the costs.
Since the referendum the economy has shrunk by 2.5% - and we haven't even left yet.
Anybody who still thinks we are better off financially after leaving the EU, in the short and medium term, is either a fantasist or too consumed by their own doctrine to consider the facts. In the long term nobody really knows with certainty, but an economy that is so reliant on services as ours will need trade deals as a necessity.
Other perceived benefits/concerns of leaving the EU are worthy of debate (such as this football one), but being financially better off as a result really isn't. We won't be!!
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