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I actually have to agree with Sandy when he says Spurs are one of the most consistent teams in the league. You only have to look at their record. Year in year out, no matter the opposition, you just know that they'll not win the league.
Everybody loves stability and quite frankly, no one really comes to close to Spurs at the moment.
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Imagine turning up on a cold winter's day to watch your team hoof it to Fellaini whilst paying your creative forward £500k/ week to defend
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Can't argue with that, we are a shambles at the moment
You are in much better shape to win something than we are, the question is will you?
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The real question is - should we?
At the end of the day finances have a huge impact on the calibre of player's you attract. Spending £50m on each position like Man City have done and paying them £100k+ a week will probably make you title favourites...
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
Unfortunately or fortunately - City fans get both the entertaining football and trophies at the end. Paradise for them at the moment.
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That may be your view as a fan, but this is supposed to be a competitive league where the clubs in it want to win the trophy.
I bet Poch has certain criteria he has to meet to stay in his job. He's not going to be the manager next season if you play nice football but finish in the relegation zone.
if you told me tomorrow that Spurs will win the title next season but with Mourinho as manager playing like he is at the moment - not a chance i'd take that.
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Yeah you would
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posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 18 seconds ago
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
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Aye, that's the kind of mentality your club should avoid, with all due respect.
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It's an achievement just to be involved the way we are with the budget we have. Ideally you want both but at the end of the day - I don't care about bragging rights against other fans for a trophy I had no involvement in.
You generally start supporting a team because of the football they way and if you told me tomorrow that Spurs will win the title next season but with Mourinho as manager playing like he is at the moment - not a chance i'd take that.
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Okay - maybe just for that one season to get the 'Premier League winners' achievement unlocked but then i'd fire him...
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I actually have to agree with Sandy when he says Spurs are one of the most consistent teams in the league. You only have to look at their record. Year in year out, no matter the opposition, you just know that they'll not win the league.
Everybody loves stability and quite frankly, no one really comes to close to Spurs at the moment.
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Imagine turning up on a cold winter's day to watch your team hoof it to Fellaini whilst paying your creative forward £500k/ week to defend
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Can't argue with that, we are a shambles at the moment
You are in much better shape to win something than we are, the question is will you?
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The real question is - should we?
At the end of the day finances have a huge impact on the calibre of player's you attract. Spending £50m on each position like Man City have done and paying them £100k+ a week will probably make you title favourites...
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
Unfortunately or fortunately - City fans get both the entertaining football and trophies at the end. Paradise for them at the moment.
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That may be your view as a fan, but this is supposed to be a competitive league where the clubs in it want to win the trophy.
I bet Poch has certain criteria he has to meet to stay in his job. He's not going to be the manager next season if you play nice football but finish in the relegation zone.
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Top four and keep his mouth shut about transfer budget - keeps job.
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comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
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comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
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comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually have to agree with Sandy when he says Spurs are one of the most consistent teams in the league. You only have to look at their record. Year in year out, no matter the opposition, you just know that they'll not win the league.
Everybody loves stability and quite frankly, no one really comes to close to Spurs at the moment.
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Imagine turning up on a cold winter's day to watch your team hoof it to Fellaini whilst paying your creative forward £500k/ week to defend
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Can't argue with that, we are a shambles at the moment
You are in much better shape to win something than we are, the question is will you?
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The real question is - should we?
At the end of the day finances have a huge impact on the calibre of player's you attract. Spending £50m on each position like Man City have done and paying them £100k+ a week will probably make you title favourites...
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
Unfortunately or fortunately - City fans get both the entertaining football and trophies at the end. Paradise for them at the moment.
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That may be your view as a fan, but this is supposed to be a competitive league where the clubs in it want to win the trophy.
I bet Poch has certain criteria he has to meet to stay in his job. He's not going to be the manager next season if you play nice football but finish in the relegation zone.
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Top four and keep his mouth shut about transfer budget - keeps job.
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Yeah, but is that success in your eyes? If it is then fair enough, but it just shows difference in ambition.
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
The fact that we've played nearly twice as many away games as home games (despite Wembley not being our proper home), isn't to be underestimated either.
They had fans of various clubs on the radio last week and they asked this same question, winning trophies or watching your club play nice football.
A Birmingham phoned in to say he'd rather see his club play nice football thanwin anything. Then they asked him what his favourite memory of supporting Birmingham was, He said seeing them winning the League Cup, not winning 5-0 away at Halifax playing tiki-taka football
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 25 seconds ago
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
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You do have less finances, that's a fact. But you also had the best defence in the league a year or two ago and the best striker. Not enough was asked of that side as you were happy to just finish 3rd and say we can't compete because of finances...
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 51 seconds ago
They had fans of various clubs on the radio last week and they asked this same question, winning trophies or watching your club play nice football.
A Birmingham phoned in to say he'd rather see his club play nice football thanwin anything. Then they asked him what his favourite memory of supporting Birmingham was, He said seeing them winning the League Cup, not winning 5-0 away at Halifax playing tiki-taka football
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That's not a good comparison.
When someone says they prefer attractive football it's not about a single game but going to games and genuinely enjoying the talent in display.
Of course, on a one-off basis winning a trophy is better. You need a balance to be honest but my example (Mourinho) for me is too toxic and boring to want to give up what we have for a trophy under his rule.
I'd get fed up with the club well before anyone of those players lifts a trophy for me to celebrate.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 25 seconds ago
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
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You do have less finances, that's a fact. But you also had the best defence in the league a year or two ago and the best striker. Not enough was asked of that side as you were happy to just finish 3rd and say we can't compete because of finances...
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I've shown my frustration here several times about us not going big on just one or two more players to get us over the line and did again this summer but it's not happened and considering the lack of spend then I can't realistically have such high expectations.
Spending the extra £40-60m might have turn a few of those draws (season Chelsea won) into wins and got us the title but that wasn't for me to decide.
No.
There's only 1 team in the title race and that's city
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
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comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 25 seconds ago
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
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You do have less finances, that's a fact. But you also had the best defence in the league a year or two ago and the best striker. Not enough was asked of that side as you were happy to just finish 3rd and say we can't compete because of finances...
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I've shown my frustration here several times about us not going big on just one or two more players to get us over the line and did again this summer but it's not happened and considering the lack of spend then I can't realistically have such high expectations.
Spending the extra £40-60m might have turn a few of those draws (season Chelsea won) into wins and got us the title but that wasn't for me to decide.
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That's my exact point though, you've been in positions where you've not actually need much more to get you over the line, but the club have settled, and in turn so have the fans.
You play much better football than us, that's not even up for debate. But in the end it surely has to be aiming for something.
I don't think finishing 2nd is a failure if you've fought it close to end, but I do think settling for 2nd is lacking ambition, as is blaming finances as it's just giving the Levy, Poch and the players excuses for not winning anything.
Being the best isn't just having the ability, you have to have the mentality for it as well.
Spurs fans can't win with this one. If we say we can win the title the muppets call us delusional but if we say we can get 2nd behind City then the same idiots say we have no ambition.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's not a title race at the moment and won't be one until at least mid Feb. Spurs us or whoever just need to ensure they're close enough for it to be an actual race come the run in.
Spurs and Liverpool are doing what they need to at the moment to create the chance of a genuine title race.
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I think you can be both happy and frustrated with the position we're in. I've expressed how annoying it is that we haven't invested in a couple of big signings now to take us forward rather than wholesale changes in future but happy with our position in spite of the lack of money.
To be honest, football isn't the be all and end all. For me anyway it's about supporting my team and enjoying it whilst I do that. I would love for that to be rewarded with a trophy but it's not going to affect me (considering we're used to not winning anyway) as much as turning up and watching Mourinho-esque football for example, hence my weekly entertainment > one-off trophy lift.
Why Spurs won't win the league
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/397959
From the OPs own words
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
comment by DirtbagDan (U21990)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
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comment by DirtbagDan (U21990)
posted 1 minute ago
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
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United would be the equivalent of a rich and senile old man paying a fortune for a night with a Russian model but repeatedly sh^gs Susan Boyle instead asking the model to guard the bedroom door.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 18 minutes ago
I think you can be both happy and frustrated with the position we're in. I've expressed how annoying it is that we haven't invested in a couple of big signings now to take us forward rather than wholesale changes in future but happy with our position in spite of the lack of money.
To be honest, football isn't the be all and end all. For me anyway it's about supporting my team and enjoying it whilst I do that. I would love for that to be rewarded with a trophy but it's not going to affect me (considering we're used to not winning anyway) as much as turning up and watching Mourinho-esque football for example, hence my weekly entertainment > one-off trophy lift.
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had this same conversation with sizzle on here a couple of years ago that went on for hundreds of pages and it seems you can never win the argument from either side, ,I'm with you in the fact that I want to be entertained and if a trophy or title comes with it then great, but sizzle and a few others were of the opinion that win something anyway you can was more important to them
comment by DirtbagDan (U21990)
posted 6 minutes ago
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
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I would also keep personal stories away from JA
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 28 minutes ago
Spurs fans can't win with this one. If we say we can win the title the muppets call us delusional but if we say we can get 2nd behind City then the same idiots say we have no ambition.
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I think you've missed the point. There's a difference between finishing 2nd and settling for 2nd (3rd 4th) every year.
comment by garrybuild (U1148)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 18 minutes ago
I think you can be both happy and frustrated with the position we're in. I've expressed how annoying it is that we haven't invested in a couple of big signings now to take us forward rather than wholesale changes in future but happy with our position in spite of the lack of money.
To be honest, football isn't the be all and end all. For me anyway it's about supporting my team and enjoying it whilst I do that. I would love for that to be rewarded with a trophy but it's not going to affect me (considering we're used to not winning anyway) as much as turning up and watching Mourinho-esque football for example, hence my weekly entertainment > one-off trophy lift.
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had this same conversation with sizzle on here a couple of years ago that went on for hundreds of pages and it seems you can never win the argument from either side, ,I'm with you in the fact that I want to be entertained and if a trophy or title comes with it then great, but sizzle and a few others were of the opinion that win something anyway you can was more important to them
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Assuming you can't have both:
As a footballer - i'd choose trophies over attractive football.
As a fan - i'd choose attractive football over trophies.
if we finish 2nd 20 points behind man city im sure opposition fan will still award us the putting pressure on trophy again
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posted on 26/11/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
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comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
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I actually have to agree with Sandy when he says Spurs are one of the most consistent teams in the league. You only have to look at their record. Year in year out, no matter the opposition, you just know that they'll not win the league.
Everybody loves stability and quite frankly, no one really comes to close to Spurs at the moment.
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Imagine turning up on a cold winter's day to watch your team hoof it to Fellaini whilst paying your creative forward £500k/ week to defend
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Can't argue with that, we are a shambles at the moment
You are in much better shape to win something than we are, the question is will you?
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The real question is - should we?
At the end of the day finances have a huge impact on the calibre of player's you attract. Spending £50m on each position like Man City have done and paying them £100k+ a week will probably make you title favourites...
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
Unfortunately or fortunately - City fans get both the entertaining football and trophies at the end. Paradise for them at the moment.
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That may be your view as a fan, but this is supposed to be a competitive league where the clubs in it want to win the trophy.
I bet Poch has certain criteria he has to meet to stay in his job. He's not going to be the manager next season if you play nice football but finish in the relegation zone.
posted on 26/11/18
if you told me tomorrow that Spurs will win the title next season but with Mourinho as manager playing like he is at the moment - not a chance i'd take that.
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Yeah you would
posted on 26/11/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 18 seconds ago
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
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Aye, that's the kind of mentality your club should avoid, with all due respect.
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It's an achievement just to be involved the way we are with the budget we have. Ideally you want both but at the end of the day - I don't care about bragging rights against other fans for a trophy I had no involvement in.
You generally start supporting a team because of the football they way and if you told me tomorrow that Spurs will win the title next season but with Mourinho as manager playing like he is at the moment - not a chance i'd take that.
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Okay - maybe just for that one season to get the 'Premier League winners' achievement unlocked but then i'd fire him...
posted on 26/11/18
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posted 47 seconds ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
I actually have to agree with Sandy when he says Spurs are one of the most consistent teams in the league. You only have to look at their record. Year in year out, no matter the opposition, you just know that they'll not win the league.
Everybody loves stability and quite frankly, no one really comes to close to Spurs at the moment.
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Imagine turning up on a cold winter's day to watch your team hoof it to Fellaini whilst paying your creative forward £500k/ week to defend
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Can't argue with that, we are a shambles at the moment
You are in much better shape to win something than we are, the question is will you?
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The real question is - should we?
At the end of the day finances have a huge impact on the calibre of player's you attract. Spending £50m on each position like Man City have done and paying them £100k+ a week will probably make you title favourites...
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
Unfortunately or fortunately - City fans get both the entertaining football and trophies at the end. Paradise for them at the moment.
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That may be your view as a fan, but this is supposed to be a competitive league where the clubs in it want to win the trophy.
I bet Poch has certain criteria he has to meet to stay in his job. He's not going to be the manager next season if you play nice football but finish in the relegation zone.
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Top four and keep his mouth shut about transfer budget - keeps job.
posted on 26/11/18
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I actually have to agree with Sandy when he says Spurs are one of the most consistent teams in the league. You only have to look at their record. Year in year out, no matter the opposition, you just know that they'll not win the league.
Everybody loves stability and quite frankly, no one really comes to close to Spurs at the moment.
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Imagine turning up on a cold winter's day to watch your team hoof it to Fellaini whilst paying your creative forward £500k/ week to defend
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Can't argue with that, we are a shambles at the moment
You are in much better shape to win something than we are, the question is will you?
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The real question is - should we?
At the end of the day finances have a huge impact on the calibre of player's you attract. Spending £50m on each position like Man City have done and paying them £100k+ a week will probably make you title favourites...
I'd personally rather enjoy 38 entertaining games and not win anything than do my head in watching Mourinho football even if it means a trophy at the end.
Unfortunately or fortunately - City fans get both the entertaining football and trophies at the end. Paradise for them at the moment.
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That may be your view as a fan, but this is supposed to be a competitive league where the clubs in it want to win the trophy.
I bet Poch has certain criteria he has to meet to stay in his job. He's not going to be the manager next season if you play nice football but finish in the relegation zone.
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Top four and keep his mouth shut about transfer budget - keeps job.
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Yeah, but is that success in your eyes? If it is then fair enough, but it just shows difference in ambition.
posted on 26/11/18
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
posted on 26/11/18
The fact that we've played nearly twice as many away games as home games (despite Wembley not being our proper home), isn't to be underestimated either.
posted on 26/11/18
They had fans of various clubs on the radio last week and they asked this same question, winning trophies or watching your club play nice football.
A Birmingham phoned in to say he'd rather see his club play nice football thanwin anything. Then they asked him what his favourite memory of supporting Birmingham was, He said seeing them winning the League Cup, not winning 5-0 away at Halifax playing tiki-taka football
posted on 26/11/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 25 seconds ago
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
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You do have less finances, that's a fact. But you also had the best defence in the league a year or two ago and the best striker. Not enough was asked of that side as you were happy to just finish 3rd and say we can't compete because of finances...
posted on 26/11/18
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 51 seconds ago
They had fans of various clubs on the radio last week and they asked this same question, winning trophies or watching your club play nice football.
A Birmingham phoned in to say he'd rather see his club play nice football thanwin anything. Then they asked him what his favourite memory of supporting Birmingham was, He said seeing them winning the League Cup, not winning 5-0 away at Halifax playing tiki-taka football
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That's not a good comparison.
When someone says they prefer attractive football it's not about a single game but going to games and genuinely enjoying the talent in display.
Of course, on a one-off basis winning a trophy is better. You need a balance to be honest but my example (Mourinho) for me is too toxic and boring to want to give up what we have for a trophy under his rule.
I'd get fed up with the club well before anyone of those players lifts a trophy for me to celebrate.
posted on 26/11/18
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 25 seconds ago
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
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You do have less finances, that's a fact. But you also had the best defence in the league a year or two ago and the best striker. Not enough was asked of that side as you were happy to just finish 3rd and say we can't compete because of finances...
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I've shown my frustration here several times about us not going big on just one or two more players to get us over the line and did again this summer but it's not happened and considering the lack of spend then I can't realistically have such high expectations.
Spending the extra £40-60m might have turn a few of those draws (season Chelsea won) into wins and got us the title but that wasn't for me to decide.
posted on 26/11/18
No.
There's only 1 team in the title race and that's city
posted on 26/11/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 25 seconds ago
It's not success but like I said - finances play a huge part. Can you realistically expect Everton to win the title?
Spurs are performing well above their spend. You can anomalies every now and then like Leicester and Montpellier but more often than not the big spenders win the title.
I can't as a sensible fan expect Spurs to spend £3.5m net spend a year, play brilliant football, build a new stadium and win trophies. Something has to give.
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You do have less finances, that's a fact. But you also had the best defence in the league a year or two ago and the best striker. Not enough was asked of that side as you were happy to just finish 3rd and say we can't compete because of finances...
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I've shown my frustration here several times about us not going big on just one or two more players to get us over the line and did again this summer but it's not happened and considering the lack of spend then I can't realistically have such high expectations.
Spending the extra £40-60m might have turn a few of those draws (season Chelsea won) into wins and got us the title but that wasn't for me to decide.
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That's my exact point though, you've been in positions where you've not actually need much more to get you over the line, but the club have settled, and in turn so have the fans.
You play much better football than us, that's not even up for debate. But in the end it surely has to be aiming for something.
I don't think finishing 2nd is a failure if you've fought it close to end, but I do think settling for 2nd is lacking ambition, as is blaming finances as it's just giving the Levy, Poch and the players excuses for not winning anything.
Being the best isn't just having the ability, you have to have the mentality for it as well.
posted on 26/11/18
Spurs fans can't win with this one. If we say we can win the title the muppets call us delusional but if we say we can get 2nd behind City then the same idiots say we have no ambition.
posted on 26/11/18
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's not a title race at the moment and won't be one until at least mid Feb. Spurs us or whoever just need to ensure they're close enough for it to be an actual race come the run in.
Spurs and Liverpool are doing what they need to at the moment to create the chance of a genuine title race.
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posted on 26/11/18
I think you can be both happy and frustrated with the position we're in. I've expressed how annoying it is that we haven't invested in a couple of big signings now to take us forward rather than wholesale changes in future but happy with our position in spite of the lack of money.
To be honest, football isn't the be all and end all. For me anyway it's about supporting my team and enjoying it whilst I do that. I would love for that to be rewarded with a trophy but it's not going to affect me (considering we're used to not winning anyway) as much as turning up and watching Mourinho-esque football for example, hence my weekly entertainment > one-off trophy lift.
posted on 26/11/18
Why Spurs won't win the league
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/397959
From the OPs own words
posted on 26/11/18
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
posted on 26/11/18
comment by DirtbagDan (U21990)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
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posted on 26/11/18
comment by DirtbagDan (U21990)
posted 1 minute ago
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
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United would be the equivalent of a rich and senile old man paying a fortune for a night with a Russian model but repeatedly sh^gs Susan Boyle instead asking the model to guard the bedroom door.
posted on 26/11/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 18 minutes ago
I think you can be both happy and frustrated with the position we're in. I've expressed how annoying it is that we haven't invested in a couple of big signings now to take us forward rather than wholesale changes in future but happy with our position in spite of the lack of money.
To be honest, football isn't the be all and end all. For me anyway it's about supporting my team and enjoying it whilst I do that. I would love for that to be rewarded with a trophy but it's not going to affect me (considering we're used to not winning anyway) as much as turning up and watching Mourinho-esque football for example, hence my weekly entertainment > one-off trophy lift.
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had this same conversation with sizzle on here a couple of years ago that went on for hundreds of pages and it seems you can never win the argument from either side, ,I'm with you in the fact that I want to be entertained and if a trophy or title comes with it then great, but sizzle and a few others were of the opinion that win something anyway you can was more important to them
posted on 26/11/18
comment by DirtbagDan (U21990)
posted 6 minutes ago
Spurs & Liverpool are perennial chokers. You're that fat bloke that promises a woman the time of her life & then comes while putting on a condom.
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I would also keep personal stories away from JA
posted on 26/11/18
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 28 minutes ago
Spurs fans can't win with this one. If we say we can win the title the muppets call us delusional but if we say we can get 2nd behind City then the same idiots say we have no ambition.
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I think you've missed the point. There's a difference between finishing 2nd and settling for 2nd (3rd 4th) every year.
posted on 26/11/18
comment by garrybuild (U1148)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 18 minutes ago
I think you can be both happy and frustrated with the position we're in. I've expressed how annoying it is that we haven't invested in a couple of big signings now to take us forward rather than wholesale changes in future but happy with our position in spite of the lack of money.
To be honest, football isn't the be all and end all. For me anyway it's about supporting my team and enjoying it whilst I do that. I would love for that to be rewarded with a trophy but it's not going to affect me (considering we're used to not winning anyway) as much as turning up and watching Mourinho-esque football for example, hence my weekly entertainment > one-off trophy lift.
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had this same conversation with sizzle on here a couple of years ago that went on for hundreds of pages and it seems you can never win the argument from either side, ,I'm with you in the fact that I want to be entertained and if a trophy or title comes with it then great, but sizzle and a few others were of the opinion that win something anyway you can was more important to them
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Assuming you can't have both:
As a footballer - i'd choose trophies over attractive football.
As a fan - i'd choose attractive football over trophies.
posted on 26/11/18
if we finish 2nd 20 points behind man city im sure opposition fan will still award us the putting pressure on trophy again
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