I just presume we have approx £100 million plus player sales to spend each season
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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 3 minutes ago
Apparently official talks started with Palace for Eze for £40m
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Fake news
we wont sell £100m worth
we suck at selling players
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In terms of sales, does the club look at it in terms of amortised costs off the books (to be replaced by amortised fees of new players), or as money through the door?).
In terms of amortisation, the biggest annual costs will be Ndombele £9m, Reguillon £7m, GLC £8m plus the likes of Sess Emerson £5m, PEH £3m.
Shift that lot and it's the equivalent of spending £155m in fees and having a neutral impact on our costs, for accounting purposes.
In each case if we make a profit then that also adds a one off boost to revenues.
I think the break even on each player is as follows
Ndombele £9m
GLC £8m
Sess end of contract
PEH £3m
Reguillon £7
Emerson £10m
So get rid of that lot for anything more than £35m and we make player profit too.
Skipp and Tanganga would be pure profit. As would Parrot. And Davies would be almost entirely profit as he's been with us 9 years already.
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actually my maths above was wrong. Get rid of that lot (6 players) and it's the equivalent of about £185m in spending, amortised over 5 years. But in doing so we would need to add a back up RB & LB, 2 CMs/DMs and we need a striker too, and probably a CB.
Looking at our last accounts, our amortisation was very high, jumped up by quite a bit. I do think that we will be looking to reduce that so while off loading the 6 players above may save £37m in the annual costs, I don't think we will look to spend it all, unless we can significantly reduce the wage bill to off set it
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 45 minutes ago
#THFC are interested in Sunderland midfielder Jobe Bellingham who is valued at over £20m.
@ed_aarons
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Na we have better young players at the club already
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comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 45 minutes ago
#THFC are interested in Sunderland midfielder Jobe Bellingham who is valued at over £20m.
@ed_aarons
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Na we have better young players at the club already
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Not sure about that tbh
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comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 45 minutes ago
#THFC are interested in Sunderland midfielder Jobe Bellingham who is valued at over £20m.
@ed_aarons
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Na we have better young players at the club already
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Not sure about that tbh
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Living of his brothers hype
I think certain players in the youth team have potential but they have done nothing at mens level yet except maybe Phillips, Devine and Parrott
Jobe has played 45 times in the championship in midfield and forward aged 18. That type of experience should not be frowned upon. He is a big lad as well and can take care of himself.
Donley is 19, Devine is 19, Lankshear is 19.
Jobe is way ahead right now and comes from good stock. He is not living off anyone's reputation, he had earned his place in Sunderland's team throughout the season.
Jordan James of Brum is another lad we should keep an eye on.
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
I think certain players in the youth team have potential but they have done nothing at mens level yet except maybe Phillips, Devine and Parrott
Jobe has played 45 times in the championship in midfield and forward aged 18. That type of experience should not be frowned upon. He is a big lad as well and can take care of himself.
Donley is 19, Devine is 19, Lankshear is 19.
Jobe is way ahead right now and comes from good stock. He is not living off anyone's reputation, he had earned his place in Sunderland's team throughout the season.
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Average player that goes missing more often than not.
A player we don’t need to waste time or money on
You can't write him off at his age.
No one’s writing him off he’s just not needed at our club.
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The gap between U21's and mens football is massive. At one point Donley and Dorrington looked close but they have sufferred with injuries.
They often play against 16 and 17 years old as well more older players
Lankshear had a really bad injury last season so fair play to him for staying fit the season just gone and banging them in.
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted about an hour ago
The gap between U21's and mens football is massive. At one point Donley and Dorrington looked close but they have sufferred with injuries.
They often play against 16 and 17 years old as well more older players
Lankshear had a really bad injury last season so fair play to him for staying fit the season just gone and banging them in.
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Thats why teams like City, utd, Liverpool and others give youngsters game time in the prem league, it is a massive step up and needs to be managed slowly
Barkley to villa £5m good deal
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#Tottenham and Chelsea have made contact over a possible move for Rodrigo Muniz.
@thirfernandes
Fab
EXCL: Genoa have approached Tottenham to sign Djed Spence on permanent transfer.
Negotiations ongoing between the two clubs and player side, it will depend on the price.
Genoa’s numbers this season, the best among promoted teams in top 5 European leagues — with club set to extend the contract of the whole management, including director Marco Ottolini.
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posted on 2/6/24
I just presume we have approx £100 million plus player sales to spend each season
posted on 2/6/24
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posted on 2/6/24
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 3 minutes ago
Apparently official talks started with Palace for Eze for £40m
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Fake news
posted on 3/6/24
we wont sell £100m worth
we suck at selling players
posted on 3/6/24
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posted on 3/6/24
In terms of sales, does the club look at it in terms of amortised costs off the books (to be replaced by amortised fees of new players), or as money through the door?).
In terms of amortisation, the biggest annual costs will be Ndombele £9m, Reguillon £7m, GLC £8m plus the likes of Sess Emerson £5m, PEH £3m.
Shift that lot and it's the equivalent of spending £155m in fees and having a neutral impact on our costs, for accounting purposes.
In each case if we make a profit then that also adds a one off boost to revenues.
I think the break even on each player is as follows
Ndombele £9m
GLC £8m
Sess end of contract
PEH £3m
Reguillon £7
Emerson £10m
So get rid of that lot for anything more than £35m and we make player profit too.
Skipp and Tanganga would be pure profit. As would Parrot. And Davies would be almost entirely profit as he's been with us 9 years already.
posted on 3/6/24
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posted on 3/6/24
actually my maths above was wrong. Get rid of that lot (6 players) and it's the equivalent of about £185m in spending, amortised over 5 years. But in doing so we would need to add a back up RB & LB, 2 CMs/DMs and we need a striker too, and probably a CB.
Looking at our last accounts, our amortisation was very high, jumped up by quite a bit. I do think that we will be looking to reduce that so while off loading the 6 players above may save £37m in the annual costs, I don't think we will look to spend it all, unless we can significantly reduce the wage bill to off set it
posted on 3/6/24
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 45 minutes ago
#THFC are interested in Sunderland midfielder Jobe Bellingham who is valued at over £20m.
@ed_aarons
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Na we have better young players at the club already
posted on 3/6/24
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posted on 3/6/24
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 45 minutes ago
#THFC are interested in Sunderland midfielder Jobe Bellingham who is valued at over £20m.
@ed_aarons
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Na we have better young players at the club already
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Not sure about that tbh
posted on 3/6/24
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posted on 3/6/24
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 45 minutes ago
#THFC are interested in Sunderland midfielder Jobe Bellingham who is valued at over £20m.
@ed_aarons
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Na we have better young players at the club already
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Not sure about that tbh
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Living of his brothers hype
posted on 3/6/24
I think certain players in the youth team have potential but they have done nothing at mens level yet except maybe Phillips, Devine and Parrott
Jobe has played 45 times in the championship in midfield and forward aged 18. That type of experience should not be frowned upon. He is a big lad as well and can take care of himself.
Donley is 19, Devine is 19, Lankshear is 19.
Jobe is way ahead right now and comes from good stock. He is not living off anyone's reputation, he had earned his place in Sunderland's team throughout the season.
posted on 3/6/24
Jordan James of Brum is another lad we should keep an eye on.
posted on 3/6/24
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
I think certain players in the youth team have potential but they have done nothing at mens level yet except maybe Phillips, Devine and Parrott
Jobe has played 45 times in the championship in midfield and forward aged 18. That type of experience should not be frowned upon. He is a big lad as well and can take care of himself.
Donley is 19, Devine is 19, Lankshear is 19.
Jobe is way ahead right now and comes from good stock. He is not living off anyone's reputation, he had earned his place in Sunderland's team throughout the season.
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Average player that goes missing more often than not.
A player we don’t need to waste time or money on
posted on 3/6/24
You can't write him off at his age.
posted on 3/6/24
No one’s writing him off he’s just not needed at our club.
posted on 3/6/24
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posted on 3/6/24
The gap between U21's and mens football is massive. At one point Donley and Dorrington looked close but they have sufferred with injuries.
They often play against 16 and 17 years old as well more older players
Lankshear had a really bad injury last season so fair play to him for staying fit the season just gone and banging them in.
posted on 3/6/24
comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted about an hour ago
The gap between U21's and mens football is massive. At one point Donley and Dorrington looked close but they have sufferred with injuries.
They often play against 16 and 17 years old as well more older players
Lankshear had a really bad injury last season so fair play to him for staying fit the season just gone and banging them in.
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Thats why teams like City, utd, Liverpool and others give youngsters game time in the prem league, it is a massive step up and needs to be managed slowly
posted on 3/6/24
Barkley to villa £5m good deal
posted on 3/6/24
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 3/6/24
#Tottenham and Chelsea have made contact over a possible move for Rodrigo Muniz.
@thirfernandes
posted on 3/6/24
Fab
EXCL: Genoa have approached Tottenham to sign Djed Spence on permanent transfer.
Negotiations ongoing between the two clubs and player side, it will depend on the price.
Genoa’s numbers this season, the best among promoted teams in top 5 European leagues — with club set to extend the contract of the whole management, including director Marco Ottolini.
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