Good news for England, might get away with out losing this one
On a side not. How irritating is Michael Vaughan and dishonest.. In a clip showing the story of KP. after the whole textgate with the south africans. Michael Vaughan is saying in the show how KP should never play for England again. Yet at the time Vaughan was blaming the England team and they should do their best to keep him..
"he just needs to be understood"..
Vaughan is a deluded moron because he managed to win the ashes for the first time.
England should bowl first.. But they wont.. Lets hope Australia win the toss.
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
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I'm actually tempted not to care very much....yep, I've decided, I don't
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
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he has that annoying smirk when he's thinking he's telling the truth which is a tell tall sign he's lying
KP would have been their best skipper, and under him England would not have capitulated like they did in 2014 and 2017 in Australia
comment by Pakistan till I die (U10140)
posted 13 hours, 48 minutes ago
KP would have been their best skipper, and under him England would not have capitulated like they did in 2014 and 2017 in Australia
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Disagree.
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 18 hours, 4 minutes ago
England should bowl first.. But they wont.. Lets hope Australia win the toss.
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I disagree, England's best chance of winning is to bat first. Australia might bat well in their first innings which prevents England from winning but there's a far higher chance that England will lose. No need to take that risk at this stage and I'd favour us to win inside 4 days if we're batting first rather than second.
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 15 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
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Swann was always a bit of a kn@b but I can't take KP's side after hearing what he did to James Taylor.
comment by Pakistan till I die (U10140)
posted 14 hours, 36 minutes ago
KP would have been their best skipper, and under him England would not have capitulated like they did in 2014 and 2017 in Australia
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Not sure why we would have fared any better if he was captain for these 2 series as the whole batting unit was a joke in both other than Malan in the last series.
Swann was always a bit of a kn@b but I can't take KP's side after hearing what he did to James Taylor.
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yeah that was pretty bad, lost a lot of sympathy for him there, its not a players job to decide weather another player is good enough, you be a team mate not a pr!ck
It may sound left field but i would play Curran instead of of Denly.
Curran is a solid bowler who takes wickets and always gets runs... Denly just doesn't perform and isn't good enough
Aussies win the toss and bowl, Root would have done the same which I sort of get but it surprises me. It will be tough against the new ball which suggests neither captain feels good about their batting.
Curran misses out so Denley keeps his place so he needs a score today.
Not seen the documentary but KP was an utter cant. Only mistake was not getting rid of him earlier.
comment by The Beast 🐒 (U2836)
posted 22 seconds ago
It may sound left field but i would play Curran instead of of Denly.
Curran is a solid bowler who takes wickets and always gets runs... Denly just doesn't perform and isn't good enough
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Most of us feel the same to be honest but England have gone with Denley. Curran offers more but England are backing the top order batsman to score runs which is what England need. Whether Denley is that player seems unlikely but hopefully he can prove us wrong.
Bad toss to lose. With the forecast over the next few days, I can't see how we can win this test match.
Funny that before the toss all the pundits were saying bat first now both captains want to bowl they have changed their mind.
Get to lunch no more than 2 down and we are in a great position. Likely to be a low scoring game and advantage batting first imo. Obviously unless we play like we did v Ireland...
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you.... (U7905)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not seen the documentary but KP was an utter cant. Only mistake was not getting rid of him earlier.
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KP was a legend, arguably one of England's best players in the 21st century. He was treated very poorly. Need to build a statue for him.
As always the truth lies somewhere between the extremes. KP was and is a narcissistic tοsser, but he was also an unreal player. He wouldn't have been a good captain long-term at all since the best captains unify their teams under their banner, as it were. But he should've been in the side a lot longer, and would've been had the higher-ups not been scared off by his aforementioned narcissistic tοsser-ness.
Anyway, today... I can only say I'm glad Starc isn't playing.
Roy's not cut out for Test Cricket - he just wants to play at everything.
He's got no chance as an opener
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posted on 14/8/19
Good news for England, might get away with out losing this one
posted on 14/8/19
On a side not. How irritating is Michael Vaughan and dishonest.. In a clip showing the story of KP. after the whole textgate with the south africans. Michael Vaughan is saying in the show how KP should never play for England again. Yet at the time Vaughan was blaming the England team and they should do their best to keep him..
"he just needs to be understood"..
Vaughan is a deluded moron because he managed to win the ashes for the first time.
posted on 14/8/19
England should bowl first.. But they wont.. Lets hope Australia win the toss.
posted on 14/8/19
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
posted on 14/8/19
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
posted on 14/8/19
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
posted on 14/8/19
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
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I'm actually tempted not to care very much....yep, I've decided, I don't
posted on 14/8/19
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
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he has that annoying smirk when he's thinking he's telling the truth which is a tell tall sign he's lying
posted on 14/8/19
KP would have been their best skipper, and under him England would not have capitulated like they did in 2014 and 2017 in Australia
posted on 15/8/19
comment by Pakistan till I die (U10140)
posted 13 hours, 48 minutes ago
KP would have been their best skipper, and under him England would not have capitulated like they did in 2014 and 2017 in Australia
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Disagree.
posted on 15/8/19
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 18 hours, 4 minutes ago
England should bowl first.. But they wont.. Lets hope Australia win the toss.
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I disagree, England's best chance of winning is to bat first. Australia might bat well in their first innings which prevents England from winning but there's a far higher chance that England will lose. No need to take that risk at this stage and I'd favour us to win inside 4 days if we're batting first rather than second.
posted on 15/8/19
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 15 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've watched all the episodes of the Kevin Pieterson story. We all know sometimes KP was a bit of a prat but he was a top class player who should have played at least another 3 more years for England. It only seemed to be ECB where he had problems with. There was never any problems when he was playing for Surrey or other clubs etc.
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swann came off as a right cant to me, at least Pieterson admitted his failings and shortcomings as a team mate
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Yep I agree Swann did come across as a bit of a cant. I'm tempted to get KP biography to see everything he says.
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Swann was always a bit of a kn@b but I can't take KP's side after hearing what he did to James Taylor.
posted on 15/8/19
comment by Pakistan till I die (U10140)
posted 14 hours, 36 minutes ago
KP would have been their best skipper, and under him England would not have capitulated like they did in 2014 and 2017 in Australia
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Not sure why we would have fared any better if he was captain for these 2 series as the whole batting unit was a joke in both other than Malan in the last series.
posted on 15/8/19
Swann was always a bit of a kn@b but I can't take KP's side after hearing what he did to James Taylor.
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yeah that was pretty bad, lost a lot of sympathy for him there, its not a players job to decide weather another player is good enough, you be a team mate not a pr!ck
posted on 15/8/19
It may sound left field but i would play Curran instead of of Denly.
Curran is a solid bowler who takes wickets and always gets runs... Denly just doesn't perform and isn't good enough
posted on 15/8/19
Aussies win the toss and bowl, Root would have done the same which I sort of get but it surprises me. It will be tough against the new ball which suggests neither captain feels good about their batting.
Curran misses out so Denley keeps his place so he needs a score today.
posted on 15/8/19
Not seen the documentary but KP was an utter cant. Only mistake was not getting rid of him earlier.
posted on 15/8/19
comment by The Beast 🐒 (U2836)
posted 22 seconds ago
It may sound left field but i would play Curran instead of of Denly.
Curran is a solid bowler who takes wickets and always gets runs... Denly just doesn't perform and isn't good enough
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Most of us feel the same to be honest but England have gone with Denley. Curran offers more but England are backing the top order batsman to score runs which is what England need. Whether Denley is that player seems unlikely but hopefully he can prove us wrong.
posted on 15/8/19
Bad toss to lose. With the forecast over the next few days, I can't see how we can win this test match.
posted on 15/8/19
Funny that before the toss all the pundits were saying bat first now both captains want to bowl they have changed their mind.
Get to lunch no more than 2 down and we are in a great position. Likely to be a low scoring game and advantage batting first imo. Obviously unless we play like we did v Ireland...
posted on 15/8/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you.... (U7905)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not seen the documentary but KP was an utter cant. Only mistake was not getting rid of him earlier.
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KP was a legend, arguably one of England's best players in the 21st century. He was treated very poorly. Need to build a statue for him.
posted on 15/8/19
As always the truth lies somewhere between the extremes. KP was and is a narcissistic tοsser, but he was also an unreal player. He wouldn't have been a good captain long-term at all since the best captains unify their teams under their banner, as it were. But he should've been in the side a lot longer, and would've been had the higher-ups not been scared off by his aforementioned narcissistic tοsser-ness.
Anyway, today... I can only say I'm glad Starc isn't playing.
posted on 15/8/19
Ohh no Roy gone already
posted on 15/8/19
Fack
posted on 15/8/19
Roy's not cut out for Test Cricket - he just wants to play at everything.
He's got no chance as an opener
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