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Is Pochettino as good as we think he is?

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posted on 6/8/19

Reckon you'll see how good he is when he takes over at RM in the not too distant future. Perhaps even before this season is over.

posted on 6/8/19

He is very good, as the above post says. Real Madrid will be calling soon imo.

posted on 6/8/19

comment by Steve Beaglehole (U15867)
posted 40 seconds ago
Reckon you'll see how good he is when he takes over at RM in the not too distant future. Perhaps even before this season is over.
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I think he’s done really well.

However not last season but the season before I was baffled by his comments about the league cup. I felt he should’ve went for it, because if Jose got something right on both spells with us, it was he wanted to give his players (the newer players the 2nd time round) the taste for winning.

posted on 6/8/19

I think he's an exceptional manager.

The only question mark left over Poch is whether, with a bigger budget, he can win titles.

We often assume that more money = more success but some managers struggle when they find themselves in that position.

I think one of his main strengths is the unity and teamwork he gets from his players, and arguably this is harder when you have 'superstars' signing for big sums on big wages.

But as things stand, I think he's a fantastic manager.

posted on 6/8/19

Pochettino is a brilliant manager (or coach as he'd like to be called) but he does make mistakes in tactics and selections in some of the big games especially in cup matches.

Saying that, he's been a breath of fresh air at Spurs and it's massively frustrating to see us not strengthen our XI with further additions.

Would be interesting to see how he does at a club like Real Madrid. I can't imagine him not doing well. The only issue would be whether he gets the backing from the board in regards to player discipline. Those clubs have bigger egos which he wont stand for but i would imagine the likes of Ramos etc. take priority over the coach.

posted on 6/8/19

I agree with everything said so far. top manager, seems like a decent bloke (if a tad dull). Only question mark is the lack of a trophy on his CV.

Don't believe that he will stay at Spurs for the foreseeable unless they win either the Prem or CL.

He has pretty much dismissed the cups as irrelevant which must irk Spurs fans bearing in mind not only how hard it is to win the big 2 trophies but also Spurs' lack of cups or trophies since the league cup in 2008 (or 2009?)

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 6/8/19

He's pretty good and like you mentioned, he would have been a better fit for United than Mourinho was.

He's built a very good first XI at Spurs, slightly disappointing for them would be no trophies in his 5 years reign, could obviously change this season. Probably hasn't helped with a limited budget so he couldn't really improve/strengthen the squad.

Yep, can see him at RM soon if Zidane struggles. It'll be totally different there though with different pressures and bigger egos at the club. Would be interesting to see how he handles that.

posted on 6/8/19

Quality Manager - Anyone tells you otherwise is rather foolish and short-sighted.

posted on 6/8/19

He's done an excellent job at Spurs considering the conditions he has to work under. Whether he can work with a bigger budget cannot ever be ascertained until he actually has it, and vice versa.

Personally I think he will be better when he has money to play with.

posted on 6/8/19

Yes he is as good as we all think. People laugh because he hasn't won trophies yet, but regular top 4 and a CL final is some going on the budget he's had

posted on 6/8/19

Think he'd make an error in going from Spurs to Real. Totally different pressure and mindset which could prove too difficult and set his career back.

Would do better going to a lesser club as he is still young enough to go to the peak clubs (Real,Barca,Bayern, Utd etc) at a later stage.

posted on 6/8/19

There’s a reason why Fergie greatly admires him

posted on 6/8/19

Poch is a very good manager but he is very personally ambitious and has out grown Spurs.

posted on 6/8/19

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 5 minutes ago

There’s a reason why Fergie greatly admires him

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SAF greatly admired Moyes.

posted on 6/8/19

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
There’s a reason why Fergie greatly admires him
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Well Fergie admired Moyes and was bezzie mates with Fat Sam so not sure how this is a positive.

posted on 6/8/19

We’re very lucky to have him as our manager

He has a great rapport with us fans

Would love to see us win a trophy for him

posted on 6/8/19

Him winning no trophies has nothing to do with budget, he had the team to win Euro, FA or League cup many times over.
He either doesn't prioritise on winning it or he just doesn't know how to.

You can't just go winning nothing to wanting to win the CL or league, you have to start from somewhere and get a first trophy under the belt for the club, even Mourinho prioritised the league cup when he first came to this country.

This is why I have my reservations about him.

posted on 6/8/19

comment by Passion Power - MAGA - Make Arsenal Great Again¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 1 minute ago
Him winning no trophies has nothing to do with budget, he had the team to win Euro, FA or League cup many times over.
He either doesn't prioritise on winning it or he just doesn't know how to.

You can't just go winning nothing to wanting to win the CL or league, you have to start from somewhere and get a first trophy under the belt for the club, even Mourinho prioritised the league cup when he first came to this country.

This is why I have my reservations about him.
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It absolutely does have to do with budget.

A bigger budget buys you a better squad and a better squad gives you more flexibility with cup competitions, without affecting your quality too much.

posted on 6/8/19

You can go from winning nothing to winning the CL, why not? He almost pulled it off.
I always thought it was FatSam who was best mates with Fergie, not t'other way round.

posted on 6/8/19

He's one of the best managers on the planet. Even though he hasn't had the money to get any player he wants, he's clearly shown his ability to coach and develop individuals and teams. I'd imagine with unlimited funds and a board than can give the support you ideally need he would flourish.

Even without trophies, what he and Spurs have achieved in recent years has been highly impressive.

posted on 6/8/19

Him winning no trophies has nothing to do with budget, he had the team to win Euro, FA or League cup many times over.
He either doesn't prioritise on winning it or he just doesn't know how to.

You can't just go winning nothing to wanting to win the CL or league, you have to start from somewhere and get a first trophy under the belt for the club, even Mourinho prioritised the league cup when he first came to this country.

This is why I have my reservations about him.

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Good post. All the great managers try to win every trophy their club is entered in.

posted on 6/8/19

Hmmm not sure it is as simple as just having a bigger budget. There have been times when Spurs have been involved deep into the latter stages of the cup comps but have still not played full strength sides even when their prem position looked nailed on for top 4.

Just don't think that Poch thinks the cups are important at all so doesn't care whether Spurs win them. Total kick in the bolloxs though to the fans who are crying out for silverware.

posted on 6/8/19

Even without trophies, what he and Spurs have achieved in recent years has been highly impressive.

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I think that Levy deserves a hell of a lot of credit there as well.

posted on 6/8/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - MAGA - Make Arsenal Great Again¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 1 minute ago
Him winning no trophies has nothing to do with budget, he had the team to win Euro, FA or League cup many times over.
He either doesn't prioritise on winning it or he just doesn't know how to.

You can't just go winning nothing to wanting to win the CL or league, you have to start from somewhere and get a first trophy under the belt for the club, even Mourinho prioritised the league cup when he first came to this country.

This is why I have my reservations about him.
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It absolutely does have to do with budget.

A bigger budget buys you a better squad and a better squad gives you more flexibility with cup competitions, without affecting your quality too much.
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so basically what you're saying is that Spurs have a better 1st team than Arsenal but a weaker 2nd team?

posted on 6/8/19

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's one of the best managers on the planet. Even though he hasn't had the money to get any player he wants, he's clearly shown his ability to coach and develop individuals and teams. I'd imagine with unlimited funds and a board than can give the support you ideally need he would flourish.

Even without trophies, what he and Spurs have achieved in recent years has been highly impressive.
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Wenger did that non stop for decades and was derided. On a tighter budget than Spurs!

Its just double standards.

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