comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
Not really Winston. It would help clear it up if you could give a couple of examples of industries it would be better nationalised.
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Why should I sit here and take a grilling from you?

This is about current party policies and our opinion of them so excuse me if I don’t sit here and take questioning from you about my entire political beliefs.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Your comment seemed to me to be against nationalisation generally. So which are you for and against.
Do you think that the sale of water should be in private hands?
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I don’t think you can take such a simplistic approach to a complex subject. I think there’s a better case for it in some industries vs others.
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What’s complex about it?

Energy, Water, the Post Office, and transport are far better off in public hands.
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Oh well that’s that then.


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Well ultimately it is because in private hands the shareholder comes first

You can have a better service in private hands but boy do you pay for it

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
Not really Winston. It would help clear it up if you could give a couple of examples of industries it would be better nationalised.
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Why should I sit here and take a grilling from you?

This is about current party policies and our opinion of them so excuse me if I don’t sit here and take questioning from you about my entire political beliefs.
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You sound like a Tory politician.

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Your comment seemed to me to be against nationalisation generally. So which are you for and against.
Do you think that the sale of water should be in private hands?
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I don’t think you can take such a simplistic approach to a complex subject. I think there’s a better case for it in some industries vs others.
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What’s complex about it?

Energy, Water, the Post Office, and transport are far better off in public hands.
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Oh well that’s that then.


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Well ultimately it is because in private hands the shareholder comes first

You can have a better service in private hands but boy do you pay for it
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Economically there’s more to it than that.

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
Not really Winston. It would help clear it up if you could give a couple of examples of industries it would be better nationalised.
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Why should I sit here and take a grilling from you?

This is about current party policies and our opinion of them so excuse me if I don’t sit here and take questioning from you about my entire political beliefs.
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You sound like a Tory politician.
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And you sound like a cant

That’s basically saying I know you are but what am I?

No it’s not

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
Not really Winston. It would help clear it up if you could give a couple of examples of industries it would be better nationalised.
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Why should I sit here and take a grilling from you?

This is about current party policies and our opinion of them so excuse me if I don’t sit here and take questioning from you about my entire political beliefs.
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You sound like a Tory politician.
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Winston Rees Mogg.

Nanny knows best.

It was hardly a grilling Winston. But when you post a comment such as yours, surely we can ask why you think the way you do.
And I wasn't sarcastic or abusive, just genuinely interested in your ideas on nationalization, as you appear quite against it.
If you don't want to debate that's fine, there's no obligation after all.

I’d rather debate the actual subject.

Your first comment included other industries.
But anyway I see no reason it should be a disaster, it seems a perfectly reasonable and achievable objective.
At the moment its only available in cities and large towns, I don't see a reason why people in hamlets, rural villages shouldn't have the same. It would cost much less than the proposed high speed rail line, and would help millions more people.

Boris Wohnston..

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
Your first comment included other industries.
But anyway I see no reason it should be a disaster, it seems a perfectly reasonable and achievable objective.
At the moment its only available in cities and large towns, I don't see a reason why people in hamlets, rural villages shouldn't have the same. It would cost much less than the proposed high speed rail line, and would help millions more people.
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So the only solution to a lack of broadband in rural areas to the nationalise the industry?

If it is to be provided free, then yes.

That’s an absurd view.

I don't think it's absurd. Every household commected to high speed broadband seems an admirable aim to me, and to be free at the point of use even better.
It's been costed, and apparently correctly, so I see nothing absurd at all.
But your comments to me show you don't want a debate so fair enough.

No, what’s absurd is that it’s the only solution to the issue of rural coverage, or lack thereof.

Of course it's not. But a private company won't be doing it for free. Of course we could pay them, but it would cost more.

There is cost associated with both options, ultimately.

I think the point is that regulation is a far more effective solution imo than nationalisation.

Tories:
“There’s absolutely no need for everyone to have broadband. It’s a stunt!”

Also Tories:
“The only way you can get Universal Credit is to apply for it online.”

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
Tories:
“There’s absolutely no need for everyone to have broadband. It’s a stunt!”

Also Tories:
“The only way you can get Universal Credit is to apply for it online.”
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https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-blocked-report-naming-tory-donors-linked-to-kremlin-2019-11

Nothing to see here.