comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 26 seconds ago
How can anyone say he didn’t take it seriously enough

What a pathetic, immature and silly comment to make

We were facing an unknown virus in an unprecedented situation- he made all his decision on the expert advice given to him at the time

Hindsight is an amazing thing and you can make such better decisions with it - but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do his best and make the best choice given to him at the time
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If he took it more seriously he would have locked down sooner.

It's pretty elementary really.

Unless you're saying he took it as seriously as he possibly could...

Then of course it's his abilities in question.
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Yep really simple to lock the whole country down - there’s absolutely no effects of that whatsoever. Economically we will be fine, there’s loads more money where the £330bn came from an absolutely no vulnerable lives will be lost due to mass unemployment and the resulting poverty
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You do realise that the lockdown will be longer because of the delay, due to the huge number of cases. Your go to argument seems to be the economic impact, but you completely ignore that this impact will be greater if you allow the virus to spread further; therefore causing more of a disruption when measures have to be taken.
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The lockdown will be longer if people don’t adhere to it. People will stop adhering to it if you bring in the measures way too early - e.g February, because they get fed up of being stuck indoors for weeks and weeks on end. You’d already have people on the streets by now thinking this is probably all over.if the lockdown had been brought in much earlier than it was.
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Would a lockdown be longer if enacted early to stop the spread, or would it be longer if enacted later after it's already spread?

comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr - obviously not being on a PL board for some time, I’ve noticed that some of these posters really are a different breed

Liverpool, Man Utd, Spurs and Arsenal seem to be most affected

I pretty hope we stay in the Championship, so I don’t have to interact with such pollocks
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I’m not sure what’s worse; a global pandemic or that we’ll be losing such valuable insight on the premier league boards.
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Thank ou for emphasising my point 👍🏼

Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 19 seconds ago
Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?
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I can wfh most of the time but I have to go in for 1 week every 2 months

comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackstarr’s MO..

Call everyone who disagrees with him a ‘medical expert’ and say that unless they really are one they couldn’t possibly be right.
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It’s not me you’re disagreeing with - it’s epidemiologists and chief medical officers, not only in this country but in many others in terms of timing interventions to flatten the curve

I think it’s fair to say that a load of football fans (myself included) maybe aren’t best placed to calling the shots on an infectious disease outbreak.
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Because scientists and data modelling experts can't be football fans, and certainly can't go on sports forums. (!)
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I’m sure they can but I’m pretty sure none of you actually are
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... That's what you said. Deny it again if you must.
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I haven’t seen anyone post their medical or scientific credentials on here which would back up what they are saying. If they care to elaborate then fair play I’m all ears
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You presumed to know everyone's vocation... when in fact you know jacksheet.

I haven't seen you post your birth certificate on here ergo you must be a bastrd.

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 24 seconds ago
Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?
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I think this will be the biggest long term change from this; more people will wfh. That being said, after a few years people tend to go back to the norm

Taiwan tried to warn the WHO about China, but the WHO main guy is in China’s pocket and gave no credence to the Taiwanese warnings.

China’s two main virology and disease centres are not far from Wuhan, which is an interesting coincidence🙄

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 19 seconds ago
Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?
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I can wfh most of the time but I have to go in for 1 week every 2 months
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I'm high risk so will tell my job I ain't getting on no train.

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 1 second ago
Taiwan tried to warn the WHO about China, but the WHO main guy is in China’s pocket and gave no credence to the Taiwanese warnings.

China’s two main virology and disease centres are not far from Wuhan, which is an interesting coincidence🙄
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Blatantly a cover up job.

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackstarr’s MO..

Call everyone who disagrees with him a ‘medical expert’ and say that unless they really are one they couldn’t possibly be right.
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It’s not me you’re disagreeing with - it’s epidemiologists and chief medical officers, not only in this country but in many others in terms of timing interventions to flatten the curve

I think it’s fair to say that a load of football fans (myself included) maybe aren’t best placed to calling the shots on an infectious disease outbreak.
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Because scientists and data modelling experts can't be football fans, and certainly can't go on sports forums. (!)
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I’m sure they can but I’m pretty sure none of you actually are
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... That's what you said. Deny it again if you must.
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I haven’t seen anyone post their medical or scientific credentials on here which would back up what they are saying. If they care to elaborate then fair play I’m all ears
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You presumed to know everyone's vocation... when in fact you know jacksheet.

I haven't seen you post your birth certificate on here ergo you must be a bastrd.
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Normally when someone makes a concerted argument about a subject that’s within their field of expertise - they tend to back it up. I’ll say it again, I don’t think Sandy, Sizzle, Robb, Edward (the leading lights on this debate) are experts in the spread of infectious diseases

comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
It’s funny how the two worst posters during this crisis have been on polar opposites of the political spectrum

Revolution
Sizzle

Probably the same poster
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No.

comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 26 seconds ago
How can anyone say he didn’t take it seriously enough

What a pathetic, immature and silly comment to make

We were facing an unknown virus in an unprecedented situation- he made all his decision on the expert advice given to him at the time

Hindsight is an amazing thing and you can make such better decisions with it - but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do his best and make the best choice given to him at the time
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If he took it more seriously he would have locked down sooner.

It's pretty elementary really.

Unless you're saying he took it as seriously as he possibly could...

Then of course it's his abilities in question.
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Yep really simple to lock the whole country down - there’s absolutely no effects of that whatsoever. Economically we will be fine, there’s loads more money where the £330bn came from an absolutely no vulnerable lives will be lost due to mass unemployment and the resulting poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You do realise that the lockdown will be longer because of the delay, due to the huge number of cases. Your go to argument seems to be the economic impact, but you completely ignore that this impact will be greater if you allow the virus to spread further; therefore causing more of a disruption when measures have to be taken.
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The lockdown will be longer if people don’t adhere to it. People will stop adhering to it if you bring in the measures way too early - e.g February, because they get fed up of being stuck indoors for weeks and weeks on end. You’d already have people on the streets by now thinking this is probably all over.if the lockdown had been brought in much earlier than it was.
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I dont think you understand this. Bring in the lockdown earlier and it becomes easier to test and trace. The lock down is shorter, as cases reduce and measure can be lifted. Containment becomes easier.

Bring in the lockdown later and it last longer; as it becomes impossible to trace contact to contain and test all those with symptoms. The number of cases is high, the numbers in hospitals are high etc.

If you wanted a shorter lockdown, then it needed to be brought it sooner and testing needed to be increased. Unless you think this lockdown is now permanent until we have a vaccine, something you have vehemently argues against. Either way, you seem to disagree with the government approach despite rabidly attacking anyone who has an opinion that contrasts with the government strategy.

Defenses of the government so far:

1. We couldn't possibly have known what might happen if we continued business as usual (while China, Iran and Italy have already shown this at that time).

2. We can't do anything anyway (while South Korea and Taiwan implement incredibly successful strategies).

Feel free to add your own

comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackstarr’s MO..

Call everyone who disagrees with him a ‘medical expert’ and say that unless they really are one they couldn’t possibly be right.
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It’s not me you’re disagreeing with - it’s epidemiologists and chief medical officers, not only in this country but in many others in terms of timing interventions to flatten the curve

I think it’s fair to say that a load of football fans (myself included) maybe aren’t best placed to calling the shots on an infectious disease outbreak.
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Because scientists and data modelling experts can't be football fans, and certainly can't go on sports forums. (!)
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I’m sure they can but I’m pretty sure none of you actually are
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... That's what you said. Deny it again if you must.
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I haven’t seen anyone post their medical or scientific credentials on here which would back up what they are saying. If they care to elaborate then fair play I’m all ears
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You presumed to know everyone's vocation... when in fact you know jacksheet.

I haven't seen you post your birth certificate on here ergo you must be a bastrd.
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Normally when someone makes a concerted argument about a subject that’s within their field of expertise - they tend to back it up. I’ll say it again, I don’t think Sandy, Sizzle, Robb, Edward (the leading lights on this debate) are experts in the spread of infectious diseases
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I thought I had Gonorrhoea once.

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 5 minutes ago
Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?
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I can't as I work in critical medical supply. WFH some of the time but have to be on site a lot. Will be working throughout this.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 26 seconds ago
How can anyone say he didn’t take it seriously enough

What a pathetic, immature and silly comment to make

We were facing an unknown virus in an unprecedented situation- he made all his decision on the expert advice given to him at the time

Hindsight is an amazing thing and you can make such better decisions with it - but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do his best and make the best choice given to him at the time
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If he took it more seriously he would have locked down sooner.

It's pretty elementary really.

Unless you're saying he took it as seriously as he possibly could...

Then of course it's his abilities in question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep really simple to lock the whole country down - there’s absolutely no effects of that whatsoever. Economically we will be fine, there’s loads more money where the £330bn came from an absolutely no vulnerable lives will be lost due to mass unemployment and the resulting poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You do realise that the lockdown will be longer because of the delay, due to the huge number of cases. Your go to argument seems to be the economic impact, but you completely ignore that this impact will be greater if you allow the virus to spread further; therefore causing more of a disruption when measures have to be taken.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The lockdown will be longer if people don’t adhere to it. People will stop adhering to it if you bring in the measures way too early - e.g February, because they get fed up of being stuck indoors for weeks and weeks on end. You’d already have people on the streets by now thinking this is probably all over.if the lockdown had been brought in much earlier than it was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I dont think you understand this. Bring in the lockdown earlier and it becomes easier to test and trace. The lock down is shorter, as cases reduce and measure can be lifted. Containment becomes easier.

Bring in the lockdown later and it last longer; as it becomes impossible to trace contact to contain and test all those with symptoms. The number of cases is high, the numbers in hospitals are high etc.

If you wanted a shorter lockdown, then it needed to be brought it sooner and testing needed to be increased. Unless you think this lockdown is now permanent until we have a vaccine, something you have vehemently argues against. Either way, you seem to disagree with the government approach despite rabidly attacking anyone who has an opinion that contrasts with the government strategy.
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We didn’t have anywhere near enough testing capability to test and trace effectively during a lockdown initiated in February. In theory I totally get what you’re saying - in practice, very few western countries were effectively prepared for such a scenario

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 24 seconds ago
Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?
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I think this will be the biggest long term change from this; more people will wfh. That being said, after a few years people tend to go back to the norm
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Quite a few employers are going to have a very hard time justifying all the office space they currently rent when this is over.

I'd be shaking in my boots right now if I was in the business of renting out office space.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
Defenses of the government so far:

1. We couldn't possibly have known what might happen if we continued business as usual (while China, Iran and Italy have already shown this at that time).

2. We can't do anything anyway (while South Korea and Taiwan implement incredibly successful strategies).

Feel free to add your own
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I like Boris and hope his okay , simple matter is, he facked up , we all make mistakes .

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 5 minutes ago
Anyone else planning on wfh till a cure is found ?
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I can't as I work in critical medical supply. WFH some of the time but have to be on site a lot. Will be working throughout this.
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Stay Safe

comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackstarr’s MO..

Call everyone who disagrees with him a ‘medical expert’ and say that unless they really are one they couldn’t possibly be right.
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It’s not me you’re disagreeing with - it’s epidemiologists and chief medical officers, not only in this country but in many others in terms of timing interventions to flatten the curve

I think it’s fair to say that a load of football fans (myself included) maybe aren’t best placed to calling the shots on an infectious disease outbreak.
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Because scientists and data modelling experts can't be football fans, and certainly can't go on sports forums. (!)
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I’m sure they can but I’m pretty sure none of you actually are
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... That's what you said. Deny it again if you must.
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I haven’t seen anyone post their medical or scientific credentials on here which would back up what they are saying. If they care to elaborate then fair play I’m all ears
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You presumed to know everyone's vocation... when in fact you know jacksheet.

I haven't seen you post your birth certificate on here ergo you must be a bastrd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Normally when someone makes a concerted argument about a subject that’s within their field of expertise - they tend to back it up. I’ll say it again, I don’t think Sandy, Sizzle, Robb, Edward (the leading lights on this debate) are experts in the spread of infectious diseases
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I guess according to you the views of those scientists that signed the letter calling for far more wide reaching and swifter action shouldn't be cited either then..

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
Defenses of the government so far:

1. We couldn't possibly have known what might happen if we continued business as usual (while China, Iran and Italy have already shown this at that time).

2. We can't do anything anyway (while South Korea and Taiwan implement incredibly successful strategies).

Feel free to add your own
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I like Boris and hope his okay , simple matter is, he facked up , we all make mistakes .
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So did Italy. So did Spain. So did the US. No one was prepared. I understand the reasons given for the measures and when they were brought in but I’m sure there will be an autopsy on all of this

Everyone after Italy should have been prepared

comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 6 seconds ago
Everyone after Italy should have been prepared
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As well as Wuhan.

comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 26 seconds ago
How can anyone say he didn’t take it seriously enough

What a pathetic, immature and silly comment to make

We were facing an unknown virus in an unprecedented situation- he made all his decision on the expert advice given to him at the time

Hindsight is an amazing thing and you can make such better decisions with it - but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do his best and make the best choice given to him at the time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he took it more seriously he would have locked down sooner.

It's pretty elementary really.

Unless you're saying he took it as seriously as he possibly could...

Then of course it's his abilities in question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep really simple to lock the whole country down - there’s absolutely no effects of that whatsoever. Economically we will be fine, there’s loads more money where the £330bn came from an absolutely no vulnerable lives will be lost due to mass unemployment and the resulting poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You do realise that the lockdown will be longer because of the delay, due to the huge number of cases. Your go to argument seems to be the economic impact, but you completely ignore that this impact will be greater if you allow the virus to spread further; therefore causing more of a disruption when measures have to be taken.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The lockdown will be longer if people don’t adhere to it. People will stop adhering to it if you bring in the measures way too early - e.g February, because they get fed up of being stuck indoors for weeks and weeks on end. You’d already have people on the streets by now thinking this is probably all over.if the lockdown had been brought in much earlier than it was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I dont think you understand this. Bring in the lockdown earlier and it becomes easier to test and trace. The lock down is shorter, as cases reduce and measure can be lifted. Containment becomes easier.

Bring in the lockdown later and it last longer; as it becomes impossible to trace contact to contain and test all those with symptoms. The number of cases is high, the numbers in hospitals are high etc.

If you wanted a shorter lockdown, then it needed to be brought it sooner and testing needed to be increased. Unless you think this lockdown is now permanent until we have a vaccine, something you have vehemently argues against. Either way, you seem to disagree with the government approach despite rabidly attacking anyone who has an opinion that contrasts with the government strategy.
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We didn’t have anywhere near enough testing capability to test and trace effectively during a lockdown initiated in February. In theory I totally get what you’re saying - in practice, very few western countries were effectively prepared for such a scenario
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Wtf?

So your view is that we would definitely have enough testing capability once the virus has gone on and is spreading exponentially?

Fecking hell, this guy..

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 34 seconds ago
Blackstarr’s MO..

Call everyone who disagrees with him a ‘medical expert’ and say that unless they really are one they couldn’t possibly be right.
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It’s not me you’re disagreeing with - it’s epidemiologists and chief medical officers, not only in this country but in many others in terms of timing interventions to flatten the curve

I think it’s fair to say that a load of football fans (myself included) maybe aren’t best placed to calling the shots on an infectious disease outbreak.
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Because scientists and data modelling experts can't be football fans, and certainly can't go on sports forums. (!)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m sure they can but I’m pretty sure none of you actually are
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... That's what you said. Deny it again if you must.
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I haven’t seen anyone post their medical or scientific credentials on here which would back up what they are saying. If they care to elaborate then fair play I’m all ears
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You presumed to know everyone's vocation... when in fact you know jacksheet.

I haven't seen you post your birth certificate on here ergo you must be a bastrd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Normally when someone makes a concerted argument about a subject that’s within their field of expertise - they tend to back it up. I’ll say it again, I don’t think Sandy, Sizzle, Robb, Edward (the leading lights on this debate) are experts in the spread of infectious diseases
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I guess according to you the views of those scientists that signed the letter calling for far more wide reaching and swifter action shouldn't be cited either then..
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They published that article a week before a full lockdown was implemented. They were right to post the article. They weren’t calling for that lockdown back in February though let’s be honest. They didn’t even post that at the beginning of March