comment by Sideshow (U11809)
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There will be a comparison because Coutinho would be fighting for positions which we already have players for.
The stupidity is failing to see the bigger picture, hence the above comment. It’s not difficult to understand if you don’t get typically Scouse defensive over it.
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As I said, so typical. Jumping from one disaster to another because its always the scousers!
FFS, Mounts a kid in his 1st season in the PL. He's nowhere near his full potential, yet you feel compelled to compare him to a 27 year old seasoned professional!!
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This is what I replied to. Now you're coming along saying that there's nothing wrong with comparison to begin with and that I didn't see the big picture and a comment about Scousers.
Every time you gaffe you make excuses and blame the nearest scouser for you're stupidity. Lashing out all because you feel jilted by opinions shared on this thread. These boards can be so childish sometimes.
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You’re not good at this, are you?
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.liverpoolfc.com/amp/news/first-team/263153-klopp-considers-coutinho-position-change
What would you deem a wing 10?
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Coutinho didn't have a free role ffs
Neither does Salah unless by free role you mean operating in specific areas of the pitch with lots of positional responsibility wuth and without the ball and part of a team press.
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comment by Melt (U22362)
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What would you deem a wing 10?
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Any player that plays out wide and cuts in, Hazard would be an example'.as would Pires. A position on the pitch doesn't dictate a free role.
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I wouldn’t say how he played was similar to either of those two. However I would say Hazard had a free role under Conte.
What would you define as a free role?
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I don’t think you get a modern day ‘Free Role’ anymore though, I would say Messi under Valverde is possibly the only example I can think of, maybe Neymar but I barely watch PSG.
I’d say modern day free role is the player who is the outlier to the tactical system and is usually the player who the team is built around more than anyone else. Ronaldo at RM, Coutinho at Pool, Bale under AVB, even to a considerably lesser extent KDB under Pep but that’s a different debate.
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I’d say Salah was briefly the start of last season especially when Klopp was trying to fit Shaqiri in.
I guess ‘often’ is a bit disingenuous but Klopp has clearly progressed from his Dortmund days and is more pragmatic allowing individuals to dictate his tactics more than before (the sign of a good manager).
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The free-role debate
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I'm an admirer of the tactical side of the game more than the playing side and I'm still not 100% sure what a free role is? Depending on your source definitions can range between a playmaker who isn't completely static & Messi 09-12, one defines tons of players in free roles, the other renders the term something of a tactical unicorn
Taking it very literally I'd go with GTW14T's definition, which means it would only be beneficial to a team if you have a lazy player whose technically head and shoulders better than his teammates. Examples like Robinho at Man City & Quaresma at Porto spring to mind.
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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 minute ago
There will be a comparison because Coutinho would be fighting for positions which we already have players for.
The stupidity is failing to see the bigger picture, hence the above comment. It’s not difficult to understand if you don’t get typically Scouse defensive over it.
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As I said, so typical. Jumping from one disaster to another because its always the scousers!
FFS, Mounts a kid in his 1st season in the PL. He's nowhere near his full potential, yet you feel compelled to compare him to a 27 year old seasoned professional!!
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Scousers
This is what I replied to. Now you're coming along saying that there's nothing wrong with comparison to begin with and that I didn't see the big picture and a comment about Scousers.
Every time you gaffe you make excuses and blame the nearest scouser for you're stupidity. Lashing out all because you feel jilted by opinions shared on this thread. These boards can be so childish sometimes.
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How?
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You’re not good at this, are you?
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.liverpoolfc.com/amp/news/first-team/263153-klopp-considers-coutinho-position-change
What would you deem a wing 10?
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Coutinho didn't have a free role ffs
Neither does Salah unless by free role you mean operating in specific areas of the pitch with lots of positional responsibility wuth and without the ball and part of a team press.
posted on 26/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
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comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 5 minutes ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.liverpoolfc.com/amp/news/first-team/263153-klopp-considers-coutinho-position-change
What would you deem a wing 10?
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Any player that plays out wide and cuts in, Hazard would be an example'.as would Pires. A position on the pitch doesn't dictate a free role.
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I wouldn’t say how he played was similar to either of those two. However I would say Hazard had a free role under Conte.
What would you define as a free role?
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I don’t think you get a modern day ‘Free Role’ anymore though, I would say Messi under Valverde is possibly the only example I can think of, maybe Neymar but I barely watch PSG.
I’d say modern day free role is the player who is the outlier to the tactical system and is usually the player who the team is built around more than anyone else. Ronaldo at RM, Coutinho at Pool, Bale under AVB, even to a considerably lesser extent KDB under Pep but that’s a different debate.
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I’d say Salah was briefly the start of last season especially when Klopp was trying to fit Shaqiri in.
I guess ‘often’ is a bit disingenuous but Klopp has clearly progressed from his Dortmund days and is more pragmatic allowing individuals to dictate his tactics more than before (the sign of a good manager).
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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 18 hours, 31 minutes ago
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WideeyedShockingArchaeocete-max-1mb.gif
The free-role debate
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I'm an admirer of the tactical side of the game more than the playing side and I'm still not 100% sure what a free role is? Depending on your source definitions can range between a playmaker who isn't completely static & Messi 09-12, one defines tons of players in free roles, the other renders the term something of a tactical unicorn
Taking it very literally I'd go with GTW14T's definition, which means it would only be beneficial to a team if you have a lazy player whose technically head and shoulders better than his teammates. Examples like Robinho at Man City & Quaresma at Porto spring to mind.
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