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comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
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I think the seasons over. You can’t just stop and restart seasons. Even if you were to do so, it would just feel like you’re starting a new season. I think the best decision is to end the season, Give Liverpool the title, find some fair way to determine Champions league places (I think the best way would be something to do with UEFA club coefficients) and don’t relegate or promote anyone. I appreciate some teams would lose out in this situation, but they can take a short term hit as far as I’m concerned.
If it turns out that football can safely resume before the start of next season (which I don’t think is the case, I think that the meaning of ‘safely’ is being stretched to protect financial interests) that’s great. Clubs are free to use that time to safely prepare for the 20/21 season. But this season, I think it’s time to end it.
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You can stop and restart seasons, loads of countries have winter breaks.
Also what the feck i fair about UEFA coefficients?
That just rewards teams that have been crap this season at the expense of those that have been better, how in any way is that fair. The only fair way to give out European spots is by taking this seasons final standings when the season was pulled.
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I like the UEFA coefficient idea because I think, assuming the season isn’t completed, it gives the best chance of selecting the best teams to play in Europe. Yeah, some teams will lose out, like lester, in that scenario, but it is what it is. This is all completely extraordinary circumstances, and if a couple of teams lose out, so be it
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So it's extraordinary circumstances but we can't stop and resume the season?
Seems like these extraordinary circumstances only kick in when convenient to you.
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Oh shut the furrrk up. You’re boring me now.
The seasons gone now. Even if were to restart at any point, it would end way after the usual end date for the season, thus affecting next season and the potential for that to even possibly run normally. For me, that’s the most important thing from a football perspective.
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Of course thats what you think because you're thicker than the average and nobody really cares or takes your opinion seriously. You're the site jester. You're job is to wear fancy costumes and do stupid and silly stuff to make people laugh and to remain relevant.
Know your place and stay there.
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Made me chuckle. Poor Wahl
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Just award Liverpool the title and void the season.
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comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
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comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 17 minutes ago
So we're ok with public transport resuming as normal, dentists, hairdressers owning in a couple of weeks, most high street shops shortly after but we're not ok with people playing football after weekly tests clearing them of C19? Weird.
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Of that list, aside hairdressers and perhaps most high street shops, football is not important.
It’s not important anyway. It’s a distraction, elevated higher to most people. It’s one of the last things that should be considered. It’s up there with new movie production in irrelevance.
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Disagree. You massively underestimate the role that sport plays in the psychology of people and the impact it has on happiness and in turn mental health. It's one of the main reasons the government are so keen to get it up and running again.
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The govt want it up as it distracts from them.
But other than that and being an employer, it’s irrelevant. Completely irrelevant.
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So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
Players contracts expire in June
Loans will expire
Pre signed players will move clubs
The transfer window will be open
The players will go into the business end of the season on the back of a 6 month break
I mean the only club in Europe that won’t be effected by this is Liverpool because they are out of all cup competitions and needs something like 6 points to secure the title.
They already said that the dates of the transfer window can be moved.
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comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
Who said that? I haven’t been following. Is that in just England or the whole of Europe?
I really don’t see the point of restarting anything. There’s nothing to play for. Liverpool have won the title. Forget about European places because players travelling around Europe to kick a ball around isn’t going to happen any time soon. The only thing that really needs to be resolved is relegation and the 22 league football proposal seems the best way to go about it.
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comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
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Why? It is one of the few things that can restarted in a safe, controlled environment. Your argument has no basis.
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Explain how it’s safe? You’d have loads of people at the ground even without fans, you’d have tv crews (and that’s a fair few people). How is that safe?
It’s needless. Freeze positions, award the title, bin the season.
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
Who said that? I haven’t been following. Is that in just England or the whole of Europe?
I really don’t see the point of restarting anything. There’s nothing to play for. Liverpool have won the title. Forget about European places because players travelling around Europe to kick a ball around isn’t going to happen any time soon. The only thing that really needs to be resolved is relegation and the 22 league football proposal seems the best way to go about it.
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Disagree. 42 league games, 2 domestic cups, European matches, no guarantee we're starting on time, Euros next summer, tv money split between 22 not 20 meaning existing clubs get a smaller share....no way is a bigger league benefiting anyone other than 2 teams who aren't even close to securing promotion yet.
Rumours are circulating that they're considering finishing this season off behind closed doors, with a plan to finish the season in December.
Then scrapping next season and awarding the title and positions based on average points gained this season. It would mean starting the new season in 21/22 with Liverpool going for a historic treble.
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comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
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comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
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Why? It is one of the few things that can restarted in a safe, controlled environment. Your argument has no basis.
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Explain how it’s safe? You’d have loads of people at the ground even without fans, you’d have tv crews (and that’s a fair few people). How is that safe?
It’s needless. Freeze positions, award the title, bin the season.
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You can have the vast majority of those 2 meters apart. You need 20-25 in a changing room that cannot observe that. They will be tested on a weekly basis. It is pretty straightforward and very manageable.... with testing.
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Why bother wasting resources on that? Just bin it. It’s really not important.
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posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 24 minutes ago
So lets say that Spurs play United. 2 days after the game Kane is tested positive - 14 days self isolation along with everyone who came in contact with him - ie All of Spurs and all of Man Utd squad.
Any attempt to squeeze the rest of these fixtures in is then blown away.
Whether its restarting this season or beginning next, there has to be real certainty that these sorts of issues will not arise. If its next season then at least there may be scope to 'make up lost ground' but in the case of a restart of this season, such issues can potentially undermine the ability to actually finish the season in a timely way, allowing next season to start.
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Nope. Kane tests positive. He is isolated and everyone who came into contact with him is then tested. Which will be happening every week anyway.
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and what if half the squad have contracted it as a result?
I can see how a much much safer environment can be set up, but nothing is fool proof. It also has to be more inline with the general strategy in dealing with this.
Many think the second spike will be bigger and worse (I dont necessarily agree) but its unknown and if deaths continue to rack up as 5000 a week it seems injudicious to consider 'entertainment' (whether football or whatever) as beeing so important to warrant special treatment
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
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Why? It is one of the few things that can restarted in a safe, controlled environment. Your argument has no basis.
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Is it safe? How do you know that? The Dutch and Belgians don’t seem to think so. I wonder is that related to the money involved with their league compared to ours?
People are forgetting that health ministers in this country weren’t even able to follow their own guidelines and we are going to trust footballers of all people to stick to them? Idiots like Grealish, Walker, the Spurs lads and whoever else has embarrassed themselves saying to stay at home before they walked out the door of their own houses?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour ago
So lets say that Spurs play United. 2 days after the game Kane is tested positive - 14 days self isolation along with everyone who came in contact with him - ie All of Spurs and all of Man Utd squad.
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Ideally, they'd all get tested and only those who test positive would be isolated.
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The whole team would have to isolate if one player tested positive
How does bringing back football benefit the social aspect of life? You can’t go to the game, you can’t go to the pub, you can’t watch it with friends or family. And all you will see is pre season standard matches played behind closed doors. What positive benefit socially or psychologically does that bring?
I couldn’t agree more with you that there are financial benefits to it though, which is what this is all really about.
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comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think the seasons over. You can’t just stop and restart seasons. Even if you were to do so, it would just feel like you’re starting a new season. I think the best decision is to end the season, Give Liverpool the title, find some fair way to determine Champions league places (I think the best way would be something to do with UEFA club coefficients) and don’t relegate or promote anyone. I appreciate some teams would lose out in this situation, but they can take a short term hit as far as I’m concerned.
If it turns out that football can safely resume before the start of next season (which I don’t think is the case, I think that the meaning of ‘safely’ is being stretched to protect financial interests) that’s great. Clubs are free to use that time to safely prepare for the 20/21 season. But this season, I think it’s time to end it.
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You can stop and restart seasons, loads of countries have winter breaks.
Also what the feck i fair about UEFA coefficients?
That just rewards teams that have been crap this season at the expense of those that have been better, how in any way is that fair. The only fair way to give out European spots is by taking this seasons final standings when the season was pulled.
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I like the UEFA coefficient idea because I think, assuming the season isn’t completed, it gives the best chance of selecting the best teams to play in Europe. Yeah, some teams will lose out, like lester, in that scenario, but it is what it is. This is all completely extraordinary circumstances, and if a couple of teams lose out, so be it
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So it's extraordinary circumstances but we can't stop and resume the season?
Seems like these extraordinary circumstances only kick in when convenient to you.
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Oh shut the furrrk up. You’re boring me now.
The seasons gone now. Even if were to restart at any point, it would end way after the usual end date for the season, thus affecting next season and the potential for that to even possibly run normally. For me, that’s the most important thing from a football perspective.
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Of course thats what you think because you're thicker than the average and nobody really cares or takes your opinion seriously. You're the site jester. You're job is to wear fancy costumes and do stupid and silly stuff to make people laugh and to remain relevant.
Know your place and stay there.
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Made me chuckle. Poor Wahl
posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
Just award Liverpool the title and void the season.
posted on 26/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 10 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 17 minutes ago
So we're ok with public transport resuming as normal, dentists, hairdressers owning in a couple of weeks, most high street shops shortly after but we're not ok with people playing football after weekly tests clearing them of C19? Weird.
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Of that list, aside hairdressers and perhaps most high street shops, football is not important.
It’s not important anyway. It’s a distraction, elevated higher to most people. It’s one of the last things that should be considered. It’s up there with new movie production in irrelevance.
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Disagree. You massively underestimate the role that sport plays in the psychology of people and the impact it has on happiness and in turn mental health. It's one of the main reasons the government are so keen to get it up and running again.
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The govt want it up as it distracts from them.
But other than that and being an employer, it’s irrelevant. Completely irrelevant.
posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
posted on 26/4/20
Players contracts expire in June
Loans will expire
Pre signed players will move clubs
The transfer window will be open
The players will go into the business end of the season on the back of a 6 month break
I mean the only club in Europe that won’t be effected by this is Liverpool because they are out of all cup competitions and needs something like 6 points to secure the title.
posted on 26/4/20
They already said that the dates of the transfer window can be moved.
posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
posted on 26/4/20
Who said that? I haven’t been following. Is that in just England or the whole of Europe?
I really don’t see the point of restarting anything. There’s nothing to play for. Liverpool have won the title. Forget about European places because players travelling around Europe to kick a ball around isn’t going to happen any time soon. The only thing that really needs to be resolved is relegation and the 22 league football proposal seems the best way to go about it.
posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
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Why? It is one of the few things that can restarted in a safe, controlled environment. Your argument has no basis.
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Explain how it’s safe? You’d have loads of people at the ground even without fans, you’d have tv crews (and that’s a fair few people). How is that safe?
It’s needless. Freeze positions, award the title, bin the season.
posted on 26/4/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
Who said that? I haven’t been following. Is that in just England or the whole of Europe?
I really don’t see the point of restarting anything. There’s nothing to play for. Liverpool have won the title. Forget about European places because players travelling around Europe to kick a ball around isn’t going to happen any time soon. The only thing that really needs to be resolved is relegation and the 22 league football proposal seems the best way to go about it.
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Disagree. 42 league games, 2 domestic cups, European matches, no guarantee we're starting on time, Euros next summer, tv money split between 22 not 20 meaning existing clubs get a smaller share....no way is a bigger league benefiting anyone other than 2 teams who aren't even close to securing promotion yet.
posted on 26/4/20
Rumours are circulating that they're considering finishing this season off behind closed doors, with a plan to finish the season in December.
Then scrapping next season and awarding the title and positions based on average points gained this season. It would mean starting the new season in 21/22 with Liverpool going for a historic treble.
posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
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Why? It is one of the few things that can restarted in a safe, controlled environment. Your argument has no basis.
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Explain how it’s safe? You’d have loads of people at the ground even without fans, you’d have tv crews (and that’s a fair few people). How is that safe?
It’s needless. Freeze positions, award the title, bin the season.
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You can have the vast majority of those 2 meters apart. You need 20-25 in a changing room that cannot observe that. They will be tested on a weekly basis. It is pretty straightforward and very manageable.... with testing.
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Why bother wasting resources on that? Just bin it. It’s really not important.
posted on 26/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 24 minutes ago
So lets say that Spurs play United. 2 days after the game Kane is tested positive - 14 days self isolation along with everyone who came in contact with him - ie All of Spurs and all of Man Utd squad.
Any attempt to squeeze the rest of these fixtures in is then blown away.
Whether its restarting this season or beginning next, there has to be real certainty that these sorts of issues will not arise. If its next season then at least there may be scope to 'make up lost ground' but in the case of a restart of this season, such issues can potentially undermine the ability to actually finish the season in a timely way, allowing next season to start.
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Nope. Kane tests positive. He is isolated and everyone who came into contact with him is then tested. Which will be happening every week anyway.
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and what if half the squad have contracted it as a result?
I can see how a much much safer environment can be set up, but nothing is fool proof. It also has to be more inline with the general strategy in dealing with this.
Many think the second spike will be bigger and worse (I dont necessarily agree) but its unknown and if deaths continue to rack up as 5000 a week it seems injudicious to consider 'entertainment' (whether football or whatever) as beeing so important to warrant special treatment
posted on 26/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
So other than the huge societal impact of football, it’s irrelevant?
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At this moment in time, yes it’s among the last things that should be re-opened.
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Why? It is one of the few things that can restarted in a safe, controlled environment. Your argument has no basis.
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Is it safe? How do you know that? The Dutch and Belgians don’t seem to think so. I wonder is that related to the money involved with their league compared to ours?
People are forgetting that health ministers in this country weren’t even able to follow their own guidelines and we are going to trust footballers of all people to stick to them? Idiots like Grealish, Walker, the Spurs lads and whoever else has embarrassed themselves saying to stay at home before they walked out the door of their own houses?
posted on 26/4/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour ago
So lets say that Spurs play United. 2 days after the game Kane is tested positive - 14 days self isolation along with everyone who came in contact with him - ie All of Spurs and all of Man Utd squad.
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Ideally, they'd all get tested and only those who test positive would be isolated.
posted on 26/4/20
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posted on 26/4/20
The whole team would have to isolate if one player tested positive
posted on 26/4/20
How does bringing back football benefit the social aspect of life? You can’t go to the game, you can’t go to the pub, you can’t watch it with friends or family. And all you will see is pre season standard matches played behind closed doors. What positive benefit socially or psychologically does that bring?
I couldn’t agree more with you that there are financial benefits to it though, which is what this is all really about.
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