comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
I think when it comes to anti-Semitism I'll believe Smeeth, Berger and Mann over any of the keyboard warriors on here.
Starmer felt it was enough of an issue to promise he'd deal with it at his inaugural speech.
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He had to take a position for sure, will be interesting to see the outcome of the report and what happens to labour internally cause of it.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Read what i have written....See me pushing any agenda on this?
Im just picking you up on your usual "i'm a smug know it all, you are are idiot who reads the gutter press" superiority complex.
keyboard warriors Pawl our of interest what part of GB are you from?
Is there a detailed list of where corbyn was proven to either be, or support antisemitism in the labour party?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Read what i have written....See me pushing any agenda on this?
Im just picking you up on your usual "i'm a smug know it all, you are are idiot who reads the gutter press" superiority complex.
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Well that would be your agenda then wouldnt it you fool.
It's not a complex, theyre just facts, and if people are going to post nonsense that theyve read or heard in media outlets owned by Tory donors I am well within my rights to point out how stupid it is.
At leadt research stuff before spouting utter bollox. I dont think that's too much to ask but if you do that's okay too.
Devonshire as a fellow spurs fan I find Robbings posts on politics completely refreshing.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
I think when it comes to anti-Semitism I'll believe Smeeth, Berger and Mann over any of the keyboard warriors on here.
Starmer felt it was enough of an issue to promise he'd deal with it at his inaugural speech.
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I suggest you read the leaked memos about those MP's lying.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=leaked+memos+anti+semitism+labour
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Oh Wow. Lying and hindering their own party leader .
SO at best they're just a party of untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their own leadership to serve their own purposes, and at worst they are a bunch of anti-Semitic untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their leader to serve their own purposes. SOunds pretty toxic. And they'd be better than this Government why?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 58 minutes ago
The Tories are useless incompetent liars
Despite this Labour cannot even get near power for 15 years.
Labour have been such poor opposition for so long that it is a massive leap to say they'd be any good at Leadership.
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They are liars, but the biggest liability has to be the electorate for being so dumb. It`s amazing how so many people can be so stupid for so long.
And how do you know the Labour Party wouldn`t be good at Leadership, if they are never given a chance. They may make a very good Government.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 33 minutes ago
Still waiting to hear who the terrorists were
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All I know is they had armored cars and tanks and guns
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Oh Wow. Lying and hindering their own party leader .
SO at best they're just a party of untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their own leadership to serve their own purposes, and at worst they are a bunch of anti-Semitic untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their leader to serve their own purposes. SOunds pretty toxic. And they'd be better than this Government why?
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Sigh.
That's not really the point. I dont see how that effrcts my view on this Government. What's clear though is while people are sitting there, like you are, supporting idiots banging the 'Corbyn is an anti semite who didnt deal with it in the party' are at best ignorant and at worst morons.
It's quite clear Corbyn is not in due to a coordinated clandestine effort to undermine his actual policies which from where I am sitying no-one has a problem with.
Throw in proven disinformation of the Tory campaign and the nefarious actions of Cambridge Analytica and it's no surprise people like yourself have allowed themselves to be conned.
I pity you tbh.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Oh Wow. Lying and hindering their own party leader .
SO at best they're just a party of untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their own leadership to serve their own purposes, and at worst they are a bunch of anti-Semitic untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their leader to serve their own purposes. SOunds pretty toxic. And they'd be better than this Government why?
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*cough cough ERG *cough *cough Faragists *cough cough Svengali Cummings...
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
Thankfully we are rid of the spiteful divisive Corbyn and replaced him with a serious politician with a decent past.
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In what way was he spiteful. Explain yourself. He was only divisive, because he wasn`t a yes man.
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He allowed anti semitism to thrive in the party, embraced terrorists with blood on their hands and was friendly with numerous governments that kill their own citizens.
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Nah the ante semitism was a nonsense made up by the media to cover up for the real Islamaphobia in the Tory Party. It was completely built up out of all proportion to what it actually was.
Amusing that since Corbyn has left as leader, not a squeak from the ante-semitism brigade.
Smeeth and Mann had agendas against Corbyn, along with that awful woman Margaret Hodge. All were doing everything they could to undermine the Labour Party under Corbyn. Then Mann left and joined the Tories, tells you all you need to know about him. Horrible man.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
After the last election I would not let the people vote again because they are as thick as funk so in some ways a facist state might actually be the answer(LOL) but without a knucklehead like BoJo at the healm.
All I want is for the MSM to kill this govt as they have blood on their hands.
If it means having some sort of political reform by means of a revolution then fine by me.
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In recent times the most negative thing to come out of the UK political situation, post Brexit, has been the negativity and abuse that comes from the losing side.
According to remainers anyone voting for Brexit (the majority) are racists, xenaphobic mugs, while anyone who voted for the Tory Govt (the large majority) are "thick as funk".
This attitude displays a huge amount of ignorance and arrogance and in my opinion undermines the credibility of the views of people who make such statements
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Why did you vote Tory then? I cannot think of any good reason to after 10 years of incompetence, and another five years to come.
What are your reasons mate.
In reverence to Sandy, I will first answer the question in his OP. No way we will become a fascist state 😊
Now, I would like to take the politics out of the equation. This isn't a political problem, it is a health problem. I want you all to seriously think about this for a minute. Something weird is going on here far beyond politics, race and/or deprivation.
All I have heard for the last 6 weeks on all night radio phone-ins is how ill our country is. The Western World (particularly the USA and UK) have lived a lifestyle which has made us the two most unhealthy nations on the planet. And guess what? We are the two highest sufferers to this virus.
I listen to 5 live all night and every caller pretty much has an underlying illness. It is scary how unhealthy we are in this country long before COVID came along.
Again this is not a political problem, it is a health problem.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when it comes to anti-Semitism I'll believe Smeeth, Berger and Mann over any of the keyboard warriors on here.
Starmer felt it was enough of an issue to promise he'd deal with it at his inaugural speech.
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They were three awful Labour MPs, who were doing all they could to undermine the Party. All three fortunately have now gone never to return. They won`t be missed.
comment by See You Next Tuesday (U3090)
posted 39 seconds ago
In reverence to Sandy, I will first answer the question in his OP. No way we will become a fascist state 😊
Now, I would like to take the politics out of the equation. This isn't a political problem, it is a health problem. I want you all to seriously think about this for a minute. Something weird is going on here far beyond politics, race and/or deprivation.
All I have heard for the last 6 weeks on all night radio phone-ins is how ill our country is. The Western World (particularly the USA and UK) have lived a lifestyle which has made us the two most unhealthy nations on the planet. And guess what? We are the two highest sufferers to this virus.
I listen to 5 live all night and every caller pretty much has an underlying illness. It is scary how unhealthy we are in this country long before COVID came along.
Again this is not a political problem, it is a health problem.
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Well it may be a health problem, but it is being driven by political idiots.
The links between poverty and ill heath are well documented and when a Government enables 25% of it's population to live below the poverty line it is indeed a political problem.
Take the sh!t show that is Universal Credit. This virus has femonstrated that people didnt have to wait 6 weeks for money at all. It's simply willful degridation of it's own citizens.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
The links between poverty and ill heath are well documented and when a Government enables 25% of it's population to live below the poverty line it is indeed a political problem.
Take the sh!t show that is Universal Credit. This virus has femonstrated that people didnt have to wait 6 weeks for money at all. It's simply willful degridation of it's own citizens.
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Food banks are the most humiliating thing a G7 country can have and we 'officially' have 2000.
These are not just attended by the destitute but by full-time working, minimum wage families.
Here's a nice read for you Hoody. Probably from your favoured rag:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/06/leaked-minutes-show-labour-at-odds-over-antisemitism-claims
Whether the claims are unjust or not, its how they are dealt with that matters. The leaked minutes from the disciplinary panel show it to be far from objective and decisions/voting heavily influenced. In short it stinks.
You simply dismiss all as a media conspiracy from Tory backed papers and it is far from that. I pity you that you are so blinkered.
You think the Tories are alone in disinformation? Labour members were told to lie and hinder their leader. JC was undermined from all sides and he didnt have the leadership skills to deal with these accusations and his lack of decisive action only served to reinforce the perception. They were halfarsed so appeared as not genuine.
You lack any objectivity in your consideration of the facts.
Nice post but full of sh!t Im afraid.
For example: You simply dismiss all as a media conspiracy from Tory backed papers and it is far from that.
No I dont, youve made that up to reinforce a weak point.
"You lack any objectivity in your consideration of the facts."
Again laughable considering I linked dozens of sites when asking others to research.
The rest is absolute flannel and does literally nothing to abate my point that Corbyn is quite obviously not anti semitic and neither was the party.
I think people need to look at the cold hard facts before shoving the blame game constantly with political agendas. Let’s be honest, it’s all biased political bukls** on here. Labour would be doing a much better job blah blah blah. The facts are we are country with a population of over 65 mil and the size of roughy 150,000 sqm. Take France for instance, which has a very similar population , but has the size is over 500,000 sqm making it almost 5x that of the U.K.. The rates in death were always going to be very high here regardless of the Tories. When are people going to get this in their stupid heads ? Instead of spouting political rubbish on here, incredible
Sometime later in 2021 or maybe even as long away as 2022, the full analysis of this virus will become clear. This will ascertain how it started (man-made or natural), ascertain why some countries got it worse than others and hopefully allow us to be prepared for future pandemics.
Right now everyone is fishing in the dark, including the scientific experts. 2020 is a write-off. We all know it but people still think it is ok to lift lockdown
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think people need to look at the cold hard facts before shoving the blame game constantly with political agendas. Let’s be honest, it’s all biased political bukls** on here. Labour would be doing a much better job blah blah blah. The facts are we are country with a population of over 65 mil and the size of roughy 150,000 sqm. Take France for instance, which has a very similar population , but has the size is over 500,000 sqm making it almost 5x that of the U.K.. The rates in death were always going to be very high here regardless of the Tories. When are people going to get this in their stupid heads ? Instead of spouting political rubbish on here, incredible
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South Korea has a similar population density so how does that work.
Fact is as the 6th wealthiest nation we have the 2nd highest death rate. All poorly performing countries in this regard (Brazil, UK and USA) have right wing Governments. Could be coincedence I guess.
To say 58,000 deaths in two months was always going to happen seems incredibly remiss.
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posted on 6/5/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
I think when it comes to anti-Semitism I'll believe Smeeth, Berger and Mann over any of the keyboard warriors on here.
Starmer felt it was enough of an issue to promise he'd deal with it at his inaugural speech.
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He had to take a position for sure, will be interesting to see the outcome of the report and what happens to labour internally cause of it.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Read what i have written....See me pushing any agenda on this?
Im just picking you up on your usual "i'm a smug know it all, you are are idiot who reads the gutter press" superiority complex.
posted on 6/5/20
keyboard warriors Pawl our of interest what part of GB are you from?
posted on 6/5/20
Is there a detailed list of where corbyn was proven to either be, or support antisemitism in the labour party?
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Read what i have written....See me pushing any agenda on this?
Im just picking you up on your usual "i'm a smug know it all, you are are idiot who reads the gutter press" superiority complex.
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Well that would be your agenda then wouldnt it you fool.
It's not a complex, theyre just facts, and if people are going to post nonsense that theyve read or heard in media outlets owned by Tory donors I am well within my rights to point out how stupid it is.
At leadt research stuff before spouting utter bollox. I dont think that's too much to ask but if you do that's okay too.
posted on 6/5/20
Devonshire as a fellow spurs fan I find Robbings posts on politics completely refreshing.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
I think when it comes to anti-Semitism I'll believe Smeeth, Berger and Mann over any of the keyboard warriors on here.
Starmer felt it was enough of an issue to promise he'd deal with it at his inaugural speech.
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I suggest you read the leaked memos about those MP's lying.
posted on 6/5/20
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=leaked+memos+anti+semitism+labour
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Oh Wow. Lying and hindering their own party leader .
SO at best they're just a party of untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their own leadership to serve their own purposes, and at worst they are a bunch of anti-Semitic untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their leader to serve their own purposes. SOunds pretty toxic. And they'd be better than this Government why?
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 58 minutes ago
The Tories are useless incompetent liars
Despite this Labour cannot even get near power for 15 years.
Labour have been such poor opposition for so long that it is a massive leap to say they'd be any good at Leadership.
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They are liars, but the biggest liability has to be the electorate for being so dumb. It`s amazing how so many people can be so stupid for so long.
And how do you know the Labour Party wouldn`t be good at Leadership, if they are never given a chance. They may make a very good Government.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 33 minutes ago
Still waiting to hear who the terrorists were
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All I know is they had armored cars and tanks and guns
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Oh Wow. Lying and hindering their own party leader .
SO at best they're just a party of untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their own leadership to serve their own purposes, and at worst they are a bunch of anti-Semitic untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their leader to serve their own purposes. SOunds pretty toxic. And they'd be better than this Government why?
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Sigh.
That's not really the point. I dont see how that effrcts my view on this Government. What's clear though is while people are sitting there, like you are, supporting idiots banging the 'Corbyn is an anti semite who didnt deal with it in the party' are at best ignorant and at worst morons.
It's quite clear Corbyn is not in due to a coordinated clandestine effort to undermine his actual policies which from where I am sitying no-one has a problem with.
Throw in proven disinformation of the Tory campaign and the nefarious actions of Cambridge Analytica and it's no surprise people like yourself have allowed themselves to be conned.
I pity you tbh.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's not a dodge, Im just not entertaining your bollox.
If people are still going to push this anti Semitic, terrorist lover narrative, in spite of all the information that is now available (see leaked memo on how Labour MP's were instructed to lie and hinder Corbyns leadership including in the 2017 election and antisemitic aspects which is now under investigation) then theyre either willfully or literally stupid.
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Oh Wow. Lying and hindering their own party leader .
SO at best they're just a party of untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their own leadership to serve their own purposes, and at worst they are a bunch of anti-Semitic untrustworthy members who will lie and obstruct their leader to serve their own purposes. SOunds pretty toxic. And they'd be better than this Government why?
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*cough cough ERG *cough *cough Faragists *cough cough Svengali Cummings...
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 second ago
Thankfully we are rid of the spiteful divisive Corbyn and replaced him with a serious politician with a decent past.
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In what way was he spiteful. Explain yourself. He was only divisive, because he wasn`t a yes man.
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He allowed anti semitism to thrive in the party, embraced terrorists with blood on their hands and was friendly with numerous governments that kill their own citizens.
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Nah the ante semitism was a nonsense made up by the media to cover up for the real Islamaphobia in the Tory Party. It was completely built up out of all proportion to what it actually was.
Amusing that since Corbyn has left as leader, not a squeak from the ante-semitism brigade.
Smeeth and Mann had agendas against Corbyn, along with that awful woman Margaret Hodge. All were doing everything they could to undermine the Labour Party under Corbyn. Then Mann left and joined the Tories, tells you all you need to know about him. Horrible man.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
After the last election I would not let the people vote again because they are as thick as funk so in some ways a facist state might actually be the answer(LOL) but without a knucklehead like BoJo at the healm.
All I want is for the MSM to kill this govt as they have blood on their hands.
If it means having some sort of political reform by means of a revolution then fine by me.
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In recent times the most negative thing to come out of the UK political situation, post Brexit, has been the negativity and abuse that comes from the losing side.
According to remainers anyone voting for Brexit (the majority) are racists, xenaphobic mugs, while anyone who voted for the Tory Govt (the large majority) are "thick as funk".
This attitude displays a huge amount of ignorance and arrogance and in my opinion undermines the credibility of the views of people who make such statements
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Why did you vote Tory then? I cannot think of any good reason to after 10 years of incompetence, and another five years to come.
What are your reasons mate.
posted on 6/5/20
In reverence to Sandy, I will first answer the question in his OP. No way we will become a fascist state 😊
Now, I would like to take the politics out of the equation. This isn't a political problem, it is a health problem. I want you all to seriously think about this for a minute. Something weird is going on here far beyond politics, race and/or deprivation.
All I have heard for the last 6 weeks on all night radio phone-ins is how ill our country is. The Western World (particularly the USA and UK) have lived a lifestyle which has made us the two most unhealthy nations on the planet. And guess what? We are the two highest sufferers to this virus.
I listen to 5 live all night and every caller pretty much has an underlying illness. It is scary how unhealthy we are in this country long before COVID came along.
Again this is not a political problem, it is a health problem.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when it comes to anti-Semitism I'll believe Smeeth, Berger and Mann over any of the keyboard warriors on here.
Starmer felt it was enough of an issue to promise he'd deal with it at his inaugural speech.
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They were three awful Labour MPs, who were doing all they could to undermine the Party. All three fortunately have now gone never to return. They won`t be missed.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by See You Next Tuesday (U3090)
posted 39 seconds ago
In reverence to Sandy, I will first answer the question in his OP. No way we will become a fascist state 😊
Now, I would like to take the politics out of the equation. This isn't a political problem, it is a health problem. I want you all to seriously think about this for a minute. Something weird is going on here far beyond politics, race and/or deprivation.
All I have heard for the last 6 weeks on all night radio phone-ins is how ill our country is. The Western World (particularly the USA and UK) have lived a lifestyle which has made us the two most unhealthy nations on the planet. And guess what? We are the two highest sufferers to this virus.
I listen to 5 live all night and every caller pretty much has an underlying illness. It is scary how unhealthy we are in this country long before COVID came along.
Again this is not a political problem, it is a health problem.
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Well it may be a health problem, but it is being driven by political idiots.
posted on 6/5/20
The links between poverty and ill heath are well documented and when a Government enables 25% of it's population to live below the poverty line it is indeed a political problem.
Take the sh!t show that is Universal Credit. This virus has femonstrated that people didnt have to wait 6 weeks for money at all. It's simply willful degridation of it's own citizens.
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
The links between poverty and ill heath are well documented and when a Government enables 25% of it's population to live below the poverty line it is indeed a political problem.
Take the sh!t show that is Universal Credit. This virus has femonstrated that people didnt have to wait 6 weeks for money at all. It's simply willful degridation of it's own citizens.
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Food banks are the most humiliating thing a G7 country can have and we 'officially' have 2000.
These are not just attended by the destitute but by full-time working, minimum wage families.
posted on 6/5/20
Here's a nice read for you Hoody. Probably from your favoured rag:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/06/leaked-minutes-show-labour-at-odds-over-antisemitism-claims
Whether the claims are unjust or not, its how they are dealt with that matters. The leaked minutes from the disciplinary panel show it to be far from objective and decisions/voting heavily influenced. In short it stinks.
You simply dismiss all as a media conspiracy from Tory backed papers and it is far from that. I pity you that you are so blinkered.
You think the Tories are alone in disinformation? Labour members were told to lie and hinder their leader. JC was undermined from all sides and he didnt have the leadership skills to deal with these accusations and his lack of decisive action only served to reinforce the perception. They were halfarsed so appeared as not genuine.
You lack any objectivity in your consideration of the facts.
posted on 6/5/20
Nice post but full of sh!t Im afraid.
For example: You simply dismiss all as a media conspiracy from Tory backed papers and it is far from that.
No I dont, youve made that up to reinforce a weak point.
"You lack any objectivity in your consideration of the facts."
Again laughable considering I linked dozens of sites when asking others to research.
The rest is absolute flannel and does literally nothing to abate my point that Corbyn is quite obviously not anti semitic and neither was the party.
posted on 6/5/20
I think people need to look at the cold hard facts before shoving the blame game constantly with political agendas. Let’s be honest, it’s all biased political bukls** on here. Labour would be doing a much better job blah blah blah. The facts are we are country with a population of over 65 mil and the size of roughy 150,000 sqm. Take France for instance, which has a very similar population , but has the size is over 500,000 sqm making it almost 5x that of the U.K.. The rates in death were always going to be very high here regardless of the Tories. When are people going to get this in their stupid heads ? Instead of spouting political rubbish on here, incredible
posted on 6/5/20
Sometime later in 2021 or maybe even as long away as 2022, the full analysis of this virus will become clear. This will ascertain how it started (man-made or natural), ascertain why some countries got it worse than others and hopefully allow us to be prepared for future pandemics.
Right now everyone is fishing in the dark, including the scientific experts. 2020 is a write-off. We all know it but people still think it is ok to lift lockdown
posted on 6/5/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think people need to look at the cold hard facts before shoving the blame game constantly with political agendas. Let’s be honest, it’s all biased political bukls** on here. Labour would be doing a much better job blah blah blah. The facts are we are country with a population of over 65 mil and the size of roughy 150,000 sqm. Take France for instance, which has a very similar population , but has the size is over 500,000 sqm making it almost 5x that of the U.K.. The rates in death were always going to be very high here regardless of the Tories. When are people going to get this in their stupid heads ? Instead of spouting political rubbish on here, incredible
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South Korea has a similar population density so how does that work.
Fact is as the 6th wealthiest nation we have the 2nd highest death rate. All poorly performing countries in this regard (Brazil, UK and USA) have right wing Governments. Could be coincedence I guess.
To say 58,000 deaths in two months was always going to happen seems incredibly remiss.
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