comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 seconds ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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Got to get near Thuram yet before he looks at Cafu
I highly doubt TAA will overtake Alves
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Trent isn't very good defensively.
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} Super European Champions of the World (U2720)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
Would love to see how Terry, Carvalho, Rio & Vidic perform with Lovren next to them.
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John Terry won titles with Cahill and Alex next to him. Lovren isn’t Frank Sinclair ffs
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posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke - He'sGotRedHair! (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
No Gerrard?
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I'm shocked that TOOR has a Liverpool player at number one.
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Who would you have? Where is your list?
There are only three positions I would have a Liverpool player at number one. RB, CM and CB.
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
Well at least his peers rate him with him getting nominated for world player of the year and UEFA player of the year, even if a few bitter fans on a forum don't.
It’s the modern fan, a couple of decent seasons is all it takes for someone to be “the best of an era”
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
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Yes as he's better than the competition, in the PL.
Best if all time firstly implies that it's not just PL, or at least that's what I thought you meant and second obviously includes far more players.
Really not sure what is so shocking here.
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 5 minutes ago
It’s the modern fan, a couple of decent seasons is all it takes for someone to be “the best of an era”
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It's the delusion of United fans. Some were claiming Wan Bassaka is better who firstly is nowhere near him and secondly has only played one full season.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
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Yes as he's better than the competition, in the PL.
Best if all time firstly implies that it's not just PL, or at least that's what I thought you meant and second obviously includes far more players.
Really not sure what is so shocking here.
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So if he can be better than the competition in the PL, despite only having played three seasons, why can't he be better than those in the non PL eras, despite only playing three seasons?
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 5 minutes ago
It’s the modern fan, a couple of decent seasons is all it takes for someone to be “the best of an era”
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It's the delusion of United fans. Some were claiming Wan Bassaka is better who firstly is nowhere near him and secondly has only played one full season.
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The only delusion on these threads has been coming from you, TOOR.
Everyone had a good laugh though to be fair.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
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Yes as he's better than the competition, in the PL.
Best if all time firstly implies that it's not just PL, or at least that's what I thought you meant and second obviously includes far more players.
Really not sure what is so shocking here.
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So if he can be better than the competition in the PL, despite only having played three seasons, why can't he be better than those in the non PL eras, despite only playing three seasons?
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Because there are more and better players to choose from. This is really simple stuff Winston.
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It's simple, yet you don't understand.
That isn't what you said. You said he can't be the best ever because he's only played three seasons.
But what has the amount of seasons he has played got to do with it?
If three seasons is enough to judge him against players over the past 30 years then it's enough to judge him against players over the past 90 years.
"I wouldn't put a player who has played only a few seasons as top three of all time"
Why?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It's simple, yet you don't understand.
That isn't what you said. You said he can't be the best ever because he's only played three seasons.
But what has the amount of seasons he has played got to do with it?
If three seasons is enough to judge him against players over the past 30 years then it's enough to judge him against players over the past 90 years.
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You judge a player on what he’s achieved over the course of his career. So to say a player is the best ever you’d look at what he’s won over however long he’s been playing.
That logic applies to any comparison you make over a 30 year period as well, TOOR.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It's simple, yet you don't understand.
That isn't what you said. You said he can't be the best ever because he's only played three seasons.
But what has the amount of seasons he has played got to do with it?
If three seasons is enough to judge him against players over the past 30 years then it's enough to judge him against players over the past 90 years.
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I haven't missed this Winston. I'm out.
I'll say it one last time, if you refuse to accept it then you can go on about it for a few pages on your own.
Due to the poor competition for this one position in the PL era I believe TAA is the best, despite only playing for three seasons. He has worked player of the year and UEFA team of the year nominations, which backup that point considering no other has this.
He however cannot be called the best of all time, as there have been better and more players in the right back position, than the PL era, therefore having only played for three seasons, he would need to do it longer to overtake them, which I believe he is on the way to doing.
Of course you're out, TOOR - you never could admit when you've messed up and you still can't.
You contradicted yourself.
You have said that three seasons is not long enough to judge whether he's the best of all time, but it is enough to judge whether he's the best of the past 30 years.
Dress it up how you like - it's a massive contradiction that makes you look a bit stupid.
It's all great material though... the Liverpool delusion is strong with you. Amazing that you stood by your Gerrard comments, despite everyone laughing at you.
The reality is that calling someone the best player of the PL era after three seasons and less than 90 appearances is absurd.
If he suddenly lost his confidence and went downhill... if Klopp left and the new manager didn't suit his game... if he sustained a bad injury and never properly recovered... would he be looked back on as the best ever, just because of his 84 league games?
It's a stupid comment, to go alongside the massive contradiction that you offered up.
Some things never change...
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comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 58 seconds ago
The reality is that calling someone the best player of the PL era after three seasons and less than 90 appearances is absurd.
If he suddenly lost his confidence and went downhill... if Klopp left and the new manager didn't suit his game... if he sustained a bad injury and never properly recovered... would he be looked back on as the best ever, just because of his 84 league games?
It's a stupid comment, to go alongside the massive contradiction that you offered up.
Some things never change...
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Cristiano was only in this league for 4 years I believe. Still the greatest to ever play in the league.
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Yes, but we look back on him now and see that he was transferred to Real Madrid and became one of the best of all time.
If he'd stayed at United and played poorly.. got injured... whatever... we'd have a different view, wouldn't we?
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 seconds ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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Got to get near Thuram yet before he looks at Cafu
posted on 11/5/20
I highly doubt TAA will overtake Alves
posted on 11/5/20
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posted on 11/5/20
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posted on 11/5/20
Trent isn't very good defensively.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} Super European Champions of the World (U2720)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
Would love to see how Terry, Carvalho, Rio & Vidic perform with Lovren next to them.
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John Terry won titles with Cahill and Alex next to him. Lovren isn’t Frank Sinclair ffs
posted on 11/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke - He'sGotRedHair! (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
No Gerrard?
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I'm shocked that TOOR has a Liverpool player at number one.
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Who would you have? Where is your list?
There are only three positions I would have a Liverpool player at number one. RB, CM and CB.
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posted on 11/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
posted on 11/5/20
Well at least his peers rate him with him getting nominated for world player of the year and UEFA player of the year, even if a few bitter fans on a forum don't.
posted on 11/5/20
It’s the modern fan, a couple of decent seasons is all it takes for someone to be “the best of an era”
posted on 11/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
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Yes as he's better than the competition, in the PL.
Best if all time firstly implies that it's not just PL, or at least that's what I thought you meant and second obviously includes far more players.
Really not sure what is so shocking here.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 5 minutes ago
It’s the modern fan, a couple of decent seasons is all it takes for someone to be “the best of an era”
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It's the delusion of United fans. Some were claiming Wan Bassaka is better who firstly is nowhere near him and secondly has only played one full season.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
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Yes as he's better than the competition, in the PL.
Best if all time firstly implies that it's not just PL, or at least that's what I thought you meant and second obviously includes far more players.
Really not sure what is so shocking here.
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So if he can be better than the competition in the PL, despite only having played three seasons, why can't he be better than those in the non PL eras, despite only playing three seasons?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 5 minutes ago
It’s the modern fan, a couple of decent seasons is all it takes for someone to be “the best of an era”
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It's the delusion of United fans. Some were claiming Wan Bassaka is better who firstly is nowhere near him and secondly has only played one full season.
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The only delusion on these threads has been coming from you, TOOR.
Everyone had a good laugh though to be fair.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
So it's acceptable to say that TAA is the best right back from the last 30 years but not the last 90 years, because of seasons played?
Work that one out if you can...
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I think it's acceptable to say he's the best right back of the PL era but not of all time, yes.
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Yes, but it's the reasoning that is laughable.
It's not acceptable to label him the best of all time because he's only played three seasons.
But it's acceptable to say he's the best right back from the past 30 years, despite him only playing three seasons.
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Yes as he's better than the competition, in the PL.
Best if all time firstly implies that it's not just PL, or at least that's what I thought you meant and second obviously includes far more players.
Really not sure what is so shocking here.
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So if he can be better than the competition in the PL, despite only having played three seasons, why can't he be better than those in the non PL eras, despite only playing three seasons?
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Because there are more and better players to choose from. This is really simple stuff Winston.
posted on 11/5/20
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It's simple, yet you don't understand.
That isn't what you said. You said he can't be the best ever because he's only played three seasons.
But what has the amount of seasons he has played got to do with it?
If three seasons is enough to judge him against players over the past 30 years then it's enough to judge him against players over the past 90 years.
posted on 11/5/20
"I wouldn't put a player who has played only a few seasons as top three of all time"
Why?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It's simple, yet you don't understand.
That isn't what you said. You said he can't be the best ever because he's only played three seasons.
But what has the amount of seasons he has played got to do with it?
If three seasons is enough to judge him against players over the past 30 years then it's enough to judge him against players over the past 90 years.
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You judge a player on what he’s achieved over the course of his career. So to say a player is the best ever you’d look at what he’s won over however long he’s been playing.
posted on 11/5/20
That logic applies to any comparison you make over a 30 year period as well, TOOR.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It's simple, yet you don't understand.
That isn't what you said. You said he can't be the best ever because he's only played three seasons.
But what has the amount of seasons he has played got to do with it?
If three seasons is enough to judge him against players over the past 30 years then it's enough to judge him against players over the past 90 years.
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I haven't missed this Winston. I'm out.
I'll say it one last time, if you refuse to accept it then you can go on about it for a few pages on your own.
Due to the poor competition for this one position in the PL era I believe TAA is the best, despite only playing for three seasons. He has worked player of the year and UEFA team of the year nominations, which backup that point considering no other has this.
He however cannot be called the best of all time, as there have been better and more players in the right back position, than the PL era, therefore having only played for three seasons, he would need to do it longer to overtake them, which I believe he is on the way to doing.
posted on 11/5/20
Of course you're out, TOOR - you never could admit when you've messed up and you still can't.
You contradicted yourself.
You have said that three seasons is not long enough to judge whether he's the best of all time, but it is enough to judge whether he's the best of the past 30 years.
Dress it up how you like - it's a massive contradiction that makes you look a bit stupid.
It's all great material though... the Liverpool delusion is strong with you. Amazing that you stood by your Gerrard comments, despite everyone laughing at you.
posted on 11/5/20
The reality is that calling someone the best player of the PL era after three seasons and less than 90 appearances is absurd.
If he suddenly lost his confidence and went downhill... if Klopp left and the new manager didn't suit his game... if he sustained a bad injury and never properly recovered... would he be looked back on as the best ever, just because of his 84 league games?
It's a stupid comment, to go alongside the massive contradiction that you offered up.
Some things never change...
posted on 11/5/20
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posted on 11/5/20
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 58 seconds ago
The reality is that calling someone the best player of the PL era after three seasons and less than 90 appearances is absurd.
If he suddenly lost his confidence and went downhill... if Klopp left and the new manager didn't suit his game... if he sustained a bad injury and never properly recovered... would he be looked back on as the best ever, just because of his 84 league games?
It's a stupid comment, to go alongside the massive contradiction that you offered up.
Some things never change...
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Cristiano was only in this league for 4 years I believe. Still the greatest to ever play in the league.
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Yes, but we look back on him now and see that he was transferred to Real Madrid and became one of the best of all time.
If he'd stayed at United and played poorly.. got injured... whatever... we'd have a different view, wouldn't we?
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