comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 22 minutes ago
He is good but he isn’t a great and won’t go down as one unless he hoovers up 2/3 trophies consistently over the next 5-10 years.
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Nah if he wins another CL then he's there.
If yiure winning any of the top three leagues in different countruesand have won a couple of CL to boot then youre up there.
If it is only him and Fergie who have won the league and CL with the same club in England then he's not far off anyway.
But again, as it stands he's world class and that's what really matters.
Fergie I think was totally different to Klopp in the market. Both weren’t/ arent afraid to spend big when needed, but Fergie was particularly adept at targeting key players for direct rivals, something you can’t really do in domestic football nowadays.
No point predicting what might be the case 15 years from now at the moment though. Could be a totally different world, of football, by then.
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Anchelotti of course.
So you don't count previous years of managing towards being considered a great then.
Right oh how does that work?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Football genius David Moyes has been back for months. There’s one to start you off
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Anchelotti of course.
So you don't count previous years of managing towards being considered a great then.
Right oh how does that work?
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Yeah Mourinho isn’t better than Klopp at the moment. He used to be. Not anymore. Ancelotti no doubt a great manager but what’s he doing at Everton?
I’d say the only competition Klopp has at the moment is Pep.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
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comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Football genius David Moyes has been back for months. There’s one to start you off
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Your dribbling is lacking substance I’m afraid
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Anchelotti of course.
So you don't count previous years of managing towards being considered a great then.
Right oh how does that work?
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Yeah Mourinho isn’t better than Klopp at the moment. He used to be. Not anymore. Ancelotti no doubt a great manager but what’s he doing at Everton?
I’d say the only competition Klopp has at the moment is Pep.
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So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then
As I say on achievements alone Klopp stands a remote 4th among managers currently at premiership clubs.
Consider this also,3 or the bigger clubs in the league have novice managers in OGS,Arteta and Lampard.
Have the big clubs ever been so bereft of top experienced managers?
If we're only taking into consideration number of major trophies won then Klopp is only a couple behind Shankly. And I'm pretty sure Shankly is a great.
And that's not including the inevitable league title this season.
“ So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then”
Nope, where have I said that?
Klopp has had a different career trajectory than Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotti. All 3 have been at clubs that were top of the tree when they took over. They’ve had the most money to spend at each club. Completely different to Klopp. That explains the disparity in trophies.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
On trophies won then he most certainly is behind Mourinho,once he overtakes mourinho's trophy haul then he'd be ahead.
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 seconds ago
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
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Makes no sense,SAF stayed at one club for 26 years or so and won loads of trophies.
So why would klopp staying at a club for a long time hinder him in winning trophies? Surely it would be a benefit?
They both start at different levels though. Klopp spends a good 2/3 seasons building his side whereas Pep comes in, splashes the cash on the best and then creates a wonderful side.
The best way to ever compare them would be to see what Pep would do if he went to Liverpool when Klopp did (effectively going to a Spurs/Arsenal now) and seeing what Klopp would do when going to a Man City who were at the top at the time.
Personally if you asked who has done the better job up to this point, its tough to look beyond Klopp I'm afraid.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 seconds ago
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
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Makes no sense,SAF stayed at one club for 26 years or so and won loads of trophies.
So why would klopp staying at a club for a long time hinder him in winning trophies? Surely it would be a benefit?
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Depends what you take over from though doesn't it. Fair enough, you could argue Klopp maybe "should" have won a trophy before he did, but a lot of his finals have come to down to individuals as well, such as Moreno in the EL final and Karius in the CL final, they can't take the blame for everything.
If you're going to say that, what's Pep's excuse for going nearly a decade without winning the CL whilst being at Barca, Bayern and Man City?
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 seconds ago
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
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Makes no sense,SAF stayed at one club for 26 years or so and won loads of trophies.
So why would klopp staying at a club for a long time hinder him in winning trophies? Surely it would be a benefit?
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You still trying to compare two completely different scenarios as if both should expect the same end result.
This is a bit daft now.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then”
Nope, where have I said that?
Klopp has had a different career trajectory than Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotti. All 3 have been at clubs that were top of the tree when they took over. They’ve had the most money to spend at each club. Completely different to Klopp. That explains the disparity in trophies.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
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mourinho's not even the best manager in london at the moment.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 50 seconds ago
They both start at different levels though. Klopp spends a good 2/3 seasons building his side whereas Pep comes in, splashes the cash on the best and then creates a wonderful side.
The best way to ever compare them would be to see what Pep would do if he went to Liverpool when Klopp did (effectively going to a Spurs/Arsenal now) and seeing what Klopp would do when going to a Man City who were at the top at the time.
Personally if you asked who has done the better job up to this point, its tough to look beyond Klopp I'm afraid.
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I find the obsession in comparing them a bit tiring tbh. Plus I think the idea of Pep having it handed on a plate is a bit weird, it’s like saying he would do a naff job of coaching a non league club, or the equivalent of saying a player like Paul Scholes who came into the game in an already established club either wouldn’t of been able to do it/ or would have had a more credible career had he started at Accrington Stanley.
“If you're going to say that, what's Pep's excuse for going nearly a decade without winning the CL whilst being at Barca, Bayern and Man City?”
The Champions League is a cup competition, the best team in Europe each year isn’t necessarily the team that wins it
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then”
Nope, where have I said that?
Klopp has had a different career trajectory than Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotti. All 3 have been at clubs that were top of the tree when they took over. They’ve had the most money to spend at each club. Completely different to Klopp. That explains the disparity in trophies.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
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mourinho's not even the best manager in london at the moment.
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But he's won more major trophies as a manager than all the managers in England combined south of Liverpool/Manchester.
Not going by what he is now,but on his record as manager he has to be considered as one of the greats.Same as Pep and Carlo,has Klopp got anywhere near the trophies?
So why would Klopp be considered a great ahead of Jose?
I'm not at all saying Pep wouldn't be able to do it, I'm just saying there is no proof that he could. Like I say, I'd like to see what he would do with EL finalists that had no European football whatsoever in his first full season. Likewise, I'd like to see what Klopp would do at a Real Madrid because that's the only real way of comparing the two because they both do different jobs in different ways. It would be like saying Louis Van Gaal has done a better job at Man United than what Pochettino has at Spurs because he won more trophies.
When you look at most of the recent winners in the CL, can you actually say that there are any other sides from that particular season that are better than who actually won it? Are there any teams in Europe right now that are better than Liverpool? Or Real Madrid the 3 years previous? The only one in the last decade I can remotely think of would be Chelsea vs Bayern.
Man City were better than Liverpool last season for one.
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posted on 19/5/20
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 22 minutes ago
He is good but he isn’t a great and won’t go down as one unless he hoovers up 2/3 trophies consistently over the next 5-10 years.
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Nah if he wins another CL then he's there.
If yiure winning any of the top three leagues in different countruesand have won a couple of CL to boot then youre up there.
If it is only him and Fergie who have won the league and CL with the same club in England then he's not far off anyway.
But again, as it stands he's world class and that's what really matters.
posted on 19/5/20
Fergie I think was totally different to Klopp in the market. Both weren’t/ arent afraid to spend big when needed, but Fergie was particularly adept at targeting key players for direct rivals, something you can’t really do in domestic football nowadays.
No point predicting what might be the case 15 years from now at the moment though. Could be a totally different world, of football, by then.
posted on 19/5/20
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
posted on 19/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Anchelotti of course.
So you don't count previous years of managing towards being considered a great then.
Right oh how does that work?
posted on 19/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Football genius David Moyes has been back for months. There’s one to start you off
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Anchelotti of course.
So you don't count previous years of managing towards being considered a great then.
Right oh how does that work?
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Yeah Mourinho isn’t better than Klopp at the moment. He used to be. Not anymore. Ancelotti no doubt a great manager but what’s he doing at Everton?
I’d say the only competition Klopp has at the moment is Pep.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Football genius David Moyes has been back for months. There’s one to start you off
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Your dribbling is lacking substance I’m afraid
posted on 19/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 minute ago
On achievements alone(trophies won) then Klopp is a pretty remote 4th best manager currently managing in the Premier league today.
So calling him a 'great' must be a wum by Liverpool supporters.
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There’s no chance Mourinho’s above him at the moment. I’ll give you Pep. Who are the other two?
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Anchelotti of course.
So you don't count previous years of managing towards being considered a great then.
Right oh how does that work?
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Yeah Mourinho isn’t better than Klopp at the moment. He used to be. Not anymore. Ancelotti no doubt a great manager but what’s he doing at Everton?
I’d say the only competition Klopp has at the moment is Pep.
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So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then
posted on 19/5/20
As I say on achievements alone Klopp stands a remote 4th among managers currently at premiership clubs.
Consider this also,3 or the bigger clubs in the league have novice managers in OGS,Arteta and Lampard.
Have the big clubs ever been so bereft of top experienced managers?
posted on 19/5/20
If we're only taking into consideration number of major trophies won then Klopp is only a couple behind Shankly. And I'm pretty sure Shankly is a great.
posted on 19/5/20
And that's not including the inevitable league title this season.
posted on 19/5/20
“ So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then”
Nope, where have I said that?
Klopp has had a different career trajectory than Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotti. All 3 have been at clubs that were top of the tree when they took over. They’ve had the most money to spend at each club. Completely different to Klopp. That explains the disparity in trophies.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
posted on 19/5/20
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
On trophies won then he most certainly is behind Mourinho,once he overtakes mourinho's trophy haul then he'd be ahead.
posted on 19/5/20
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 seconds ago
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
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Makes no sense,SAF stayed at one club for 26 years or so and won loads of trophies.
So why would klopp staying at a club for a long time hinder him in winning trophies? Surely it would be a benefit?
posted on 19/5/20
They both start at different levels though. Klopp spends a good 2/3 seasons building his side whereas Pep comes in, splashes the cash on the best and then creates a wonderful side.
The best way to ever compare them would be to see what Pep would do if he went to Liverpool when Klopp did (effectively going to a Spurs/Arsenal now) and seeing what Klopp would do when going to a Man City who were at the top at the time.
Personally if you asked who has done the better job up to this point, its tough to look beyond Klopp I'm afraid.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 seconds ago
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
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Makes no sense,SAF stayed at one club for 26 years or so and won loads of trophies.
So why would klopp staying at a club for a long time hinder him in winning trophies? Surely it would be a benefit?
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Depends what you take over from though doesn't it. Fair enough, you could argue Klopp maybe "should" have won a trophy before he did, but a lot of his finals have come to down to individuals as well, such as Moreno in the EL final and Karius in the CL final, they can't take the blame for everything.
If you're going to say that, what's Pep's excuse for going nearly a decade without winning the CL whilst being at Barca, Bayern and Man City?
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 seconds ago
“ Klopp is 52 years of age and has been in management more than 20 years,look at what the other 3 had achieved by either 52 or 20 years in management.”
Down to Klopp staying at clubs this and not having a 3 season nervous breakdown or getting sacked every two years.
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Makes no sense,SAF stayed at one club for 26 years or so and won loads of trophies.
So why would klopp staying at a club for a long time hinder him in winning trophies? Surely it would be a benefit?
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You still trying to compare two completely different scenarios as if both should expect the same end result.
This is a bit daft now.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then”
Nope, where have I said that?
Klopp has had a different career trajectory than Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotti. All 3 have been at clubs that were top of the tree when they took over. They’ve had the most money to spend at each club. Completely different to Klopp. That explains the disparity in trophies.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
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mourinho's not even the best manager in london at the moment.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 50 seconds ago
They both start at different levels though. Klopp spends a good 2/3 seasons building his side whereas Pep comes in, splashes the cash on the best and then creates a wonderful side.
The best way to ever compare them would be to see what Pep would do if he went to Liverpool when Klopp did (effectively going to a Spurs/Arsenal now) and seeing what Klopp would do when going to a Man City who were at the top at the time.
Personally if you asked who has done the better job up to this point, its tough to look beyond Klopp I'm afraid.
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I find the obsession in comparing them a bit tiring tbh. Plus I think the idea of Pep having it handed on a plate is a bit weird, it’s like saying he would do a naff job of coaching a non league club, or the equivalent of saying a player like Paul Scholes who came into the game in an already established club either wouldn’t of been able to do it/ or would have had a more credible career had he started at Accrington Stanley.
posted on 19/5/20
“If you're going to say that, what's Pep's excuse for going nearly a decade without winning the CL whilst being at Barca, Bayern and Man City?”
The Champions League is a cup competition, the best team in Europe each year isn’t necessarily the team that wins it
posted on 19/5/20
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 10 minutes ago
“ So we are saying you can only be judged as a great on what you are doing at present.
Interesting stance,so Shankly,Paisley and Dalglish can't be considered greats then”
Nope, where have I said that?
Klopp has had a different career trajectory than Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotti. All 3 have been at clubs that were top of the tree when they took over. They’ve had the most money to spend at each club. Completely different to Klopp. That explains the disparity in trophies.
Plus you could argue Klopp isn’t as far along in his career as the other 3.
They’re all great managers. To say Klopp is the fourth best behind Mourinho at the moment you’ve got to be mad.
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mourinho's not even the best manager in london at the moment.
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But he's won more major trophies as a manager than all the managers in England combined south of Liverpool/Manchester.
Not going by what he is now,but on his record as manager he has to be considered as one of the greats.Same as Pep and Carlo,has Klopp got anywhere near the trophies?
So why would Klopp be considered a great ahead of Jose?
posted on 19/5/20
I'm not at all saying Pep wouldn't be able to do it, I'm just saying there is no proof that he could. Like I say, I'd like to see what he would do with EL finalists that had no European football whatsoever in his first full season. Likewise, I'd like to see what Klopp would do at a Real Madrid because that's the only real way of comparing the two because they both do different jobs in different ways. It would be like saying Louis Van Gaal has done a better job at Man United than what Pochettino has at Spurs because he won more trophies.
When you look at most of the recent winners in the CL, can you actually say that there are any other sides from that particular season that are better than who actually won it? Are there any teams in Europe right now that are better than Liverpool? Or Real Madrid the 3 years previous? The only one in the last decade I can remotely think of would be Chelsea vs Bayern.
posted on 19/5/20
Man City were better than Liverpool last season for one.
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