comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
Black lives matter doesn't mean only black lives matter, it means we are supporting black lives because they are the ones facing these problems.
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Which of course they do know well. It’s just an easy linguistic straw-man for them to claim otherwise.
I’m out of here. This depresses me hugely.
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To be fair to you pointy you've been consistent on here about your willingness to sacrifice your wife in the pursuit of racial equality.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
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What about Sadio Mané?
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What's he done?
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?
Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more
Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers
You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.
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Just looked up the white versions of these...there aren't any...
I expect it's racist to have them called such things
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Yes carry on, if you believe that.
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EPL have how many black players from 4% of UK being black.
Half England team is POC.
So, like 75% black NFL American football, do white minority players require a union?
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The White Basketball Players Association of America.
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This.
We can jump...just not well lol
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
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What about Sadio Mané?
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What's he done?
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11919262/mane-knee-video-liverpool-everton/
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
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fAr LeFt
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Them uns......taking over Seattle to set up cop free zone and hand out guns to kids there, then a guy gets shot dead there over the weekend....that antifa type far left freakshow.
Not all left wing people are rational and wise.
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To qualify the BLM movement as Far Left is nonsense a deflection tactic used so you can criticise it without being overtly racist.
It's not far left, you know it and i know it. Are there elements of far left involved, yes probably but the reality is far left is communist, we don't have a large group of communists in this country or in America. The support is coming from the far left, the left, the centre, the right of centre, white, black, asian, rich and poor. People that think everyone should be treated fairly.
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Two separate groups as I stated.
BLM and white led far left, such as antifa.
BLM seek white folk to pay reparations and defund or disband police....do you agree to pay up and get rid of UK police?
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
Black lives matter doesn't mean only black lives matter, it means we are supporting black lives because they are the ones facing these problems.
—-
Which of course they do know well. It’s just an easy linguistic straw-man for them to claim otherwise.
I’m out of here. This depresses me hugely.
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To be fair to you pointy you've been consistent on here about your willingness to sacrifice your wife in the pursuit of racial equality.
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Haha.
Pointy.
No worries that you want out.
Wise man.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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Agreed.
Far left and right use this to recruit and stir it.
BLM are right calling for no black guys shot and equality and we all agree.
Now, it's turning into a hate white people and our history culture in UK or Europe or America.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
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Don't get this line of thought.
Yes people do despicable acts and should rightly be punished. So terror attacks have had a massive response. The culprits caught and punished or killed and extensive investigations into their families and friends to ensure no further involvement.
Never a mental health issue in sight
Yes the grooming gangs operated. Again locked up and many specific units set up.
This line of argument is akin to me a brown person saying after saville and prince Andrew the grooming gangs were racially victimised
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
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What about Sadio Mané?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's he done?
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11919262/mane-knee-video-liverpool-everton/
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Cheers mate. Missed that.
Was probably the highlight of the game. Another load of EPL garbage.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 seconds ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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I think more has been made of that than is accurate, the BLM protests were mainly a broader spectrum of protestors, i wouldn't deny some of those on the left caused problems but from what i seen on the TV it didnt look like much of that was ANTIFA. The right winger groups went for a pash up and to cause trouble not protect a statue that was already boarded up.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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Agreed.
Far left and right use this to recruit and stir it.
BLM are right calling for no black guys shot and equality and we all agree.
Now, it's turning into a hate white people and our history culture in UK or Europe or America.
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That's a bit simplistic in my opinion. I think its more do not celebrate the greatness of something built on the back of slavery, racism and exploitation. But inevitably it will cause problems as it can easily slide into a witch hunt finding evil everywhere. But for the most part it has simply challenged the idea that Britain and our history is great or even good.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
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fAr LeFt
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Them uns......taking over Seattle to set up cop free zone and hand out guns to kids there, then a guy gets shot dead there over the weekend....that antifa type far left freakshow.
Not all left wing people are rational and wise.
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To qualify the BLM movement as Far Left is nonsense a deflection tactic used so you can criticise it without being overtly racist.
It's not far left, you know it and i know it. Are there elements of far left involved, yes probably but the reality is far left is communist, we don't have a large group of communists in this country or in America. The support is coming from the far left, the left, the centre, the right of centre, white, black, asian, rich and poor. People that think everyone should be treated fairly.
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Two separate groups as I stated.
BLM and white led far left, such as antifa.
BLM seek white folk to pay reparations and defund or disband police....do you agree to pay up and get rid of UK police?
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Lets be clear here BLM are not far left led, they are black people led. That is a rehearsed attack line used by racists so they can target BLM without being openly racist.
No they don't defund the police is an American aim, which if you look past the headlne isn't about getting rid of the police, it's about de-militarising the police. These police forces have huge budgets while the schools in the same areas can't afford text books but the police departments have tanks, water cannons, hugely expensive armory. Understand what defund the police actually means and it makes sense.
There is no mainstream movement to defund the police here. The issues with the police here are the systemic racism (mainly in the met) the stop and search tactics which targets minorities.
Again your reparations claim is wide of the mark, it may have been said it is not an agreed stated aim of the movement.
Jesus fecking Christ, what a shambles of a post.
Always good when they out themselves though.
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't get this line of thought.
Yes people do despicable acts and should rightly be punished. So terror attacks have had a massive response. The culprits caught and punished or killed and extensive investigations into their families and friends to ensure no further involvement.
Never a mental health issue in sight
Yes the grooming gangs operated. Again locked up and many specific units set up.
This line of argument is akin to me a brown person saying after saville and prince Andrew the grooming gangs were racially victimised
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Many white girls still groomed, just as many black African girls married off underage to old men.
Many groomers not caught and cops failed to look after girls die to fearing racism calls.
Call Saville and Andy white groomers all day mate..they are skum too.
There are mental health issues too....white and black suffer this, as do extremists.
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 seconds ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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I think more has been made of that than is accurate, the BLM protests were mainly a broader spectrum of protestors, i wouldn't deny some of those on the left caused problems but from what i seen on the TV it didnt look like much of that was ANTIFA. The right winger groups went for a pash up and to cause trouble not protect a statue that was already boarded up.
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Did you see random white guys battered in London last week, while out walking and presumed a football hooligan in a built up area?
Or black cops beaten by white BLM fanboys.
Or black cops killed by black looters and rioters after Floyd was killed.
The point that alot of people will make (don't shoot the messenger) is that had it said black lives matter it would of been applauded.
Lots of folk (not just the far right) will see that as double standards.
Andy having 'relations' with a 17 year old party girl isn't the same as Saville molesting 13/14 year olds in hospital.
Nice bit of racism in the morning.
BLM is a thing because to many in positions of power black lives don't matter.
Alllivesmatter is a counter from the far right. A good one too because it sounds well meaning. It's not, if you use it you are either racist or ignorant. If the second then please educate yourself. Alllivesmatter don't matter until black lives do.
White lives matter? Well that's a new one. If you are promoting the majority race that holds all the wealth and power well that's also got a word. Supremacy
This isn't just an American problem which up until the past year I naively believed until I educated myself on the matter.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
The point that alot of people will make (don't shoot the messenger) is that had it said black lives matter it would of been applauded.
Lots of folk (not just the far right) will see that as double standards.
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Stupid people will, and those people are the ones who need to be educated, not pandered to
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 seconds ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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I think more has been made of that than is accurate, the BLM protests were mainly a broader spectrum of protestors, i wouldn't deny some of those on the left caused problems but from what i seen on the TV it didnt look like much of that was ANTIFA. The right winger groups went for a pash up and to cause trouble not protect a statue that was already boarded up.
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Did you see random white guys battered in London last week, while out walking and presumed a football hooligan in a built up area?
Or black cops beaten by white BLM fanboys.
Or black cops killed by black looters and rioters after Floyd was killed.
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Whataboutery of the worst kind but i could play that game longer than you.
Do you remember the white cop kneeling on the black guys neck until he died?
Do you remember the white cop who shot an unarmed black woman in her house?
Do you remember the right wing guy being carried to safety on the shoulder of a black man? Do you know said white man was a Police man?
The whole point should be bad people are bad people regardless of the colour of their fooking skin you numpty.
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
The point that alot of people will make (don't shoot the messenger) is that had it said black lives matter it would of been applauded.
Lots of folk (not just the far right) will see that as double standards.
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Stupid people will, and those people are the ones who need to be educated, not pandered to
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Andy having 'relations' with a 17 year old party girl isn't the same as Saville molesting 13/14 year olds in hospital.
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Party girl.
Really? That's where you went with that. Wow.
Groomed sexual abuse victim but to you that's a party girl. Jesus wept.
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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Agreed.
Far left and right use this to recruit and stir it.
BLM are right calling for no black guys shot and equality and we all agree.
Now, it's turning into a hate white people and our history culture in UK or Europe or America.
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That's a bit simplistic in my opinion. I think its more do not celebrate the greatness of something built on the back of slavery, racism and exploitation. But inevitably it will cause problems as it can easily slide into a witch hunt finding evil everywhere. But for the most part it has simply challenged the idea that Britain and our history is great or even good.
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You mean they call it GREAT Britain when it is not great?
A bit like the UNITED Kingdom then?
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Andy having 'relations' with a 17 year old party girl isn't the same as Saville molesting 13/14 year olds in hospital.
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Party girl.
Really? That's where you went with that. Wow.
Groomed sexual abuse victim but to you that's a party girl. Jesus wept.
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I watched that filthy rich on Netflix. Grim
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posted on 23/6/20
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
Black lives matter doesn't mean only black lives matter, it means we are supporting black lives because they are the ones facing these problems.
—-
Which of course they do know well. It’s just an easy linguistic straw-man for them to claim otherwise.
I’m out of here. This depresses me hugely.
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To be fair to you pointy you've been consistent on here about your willingness to sacrifice your wife in the pursuit of racial equality.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
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What about Sadio Mané?
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What's he done?
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (U10168)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Timothy (U14278)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 6 minutes ago
This might finish the filtering process.
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How?
Its actually positive racisim to claim black lives matter. Are you saying they matter more than white people?
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Couldn't agree more
Bit like the Black actors Guild, or the association of Black lawyers
You try applying for one of those...see where you get
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Yes compare something set up due to the fact that the members were excluded from original. If you think that is comparable then you are part of the problem.
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Just looked up the white versions of these...there aren't any...
I expect it's racist to have them called such things
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Yes carry on, if you believe that.
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EPL have how many black players from 4% of UK being black.
Half England team is POC.
So, like 75% black NFL American football, do white minority players require a union?
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The White Basketball Players Association of America.
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This.
We can jump...just not well lol
posted on 23/6/20
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about Sadio Mané?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's he done?
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11919262/mane-knee-video-liverpool-everton/
posted on 23/6/20
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
fAr LeFt
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Them uns......taking over Seattle to set up cop free zone and hand out guns to kids there, then a guy gets shot dead there over the weekend....that antifa type far left freakshow.
Not all left wing people are rational and wise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To qualify the BLM movement as Far Left is nonsense a deflection tactic used so you can criticise it without being overtly racist.
It's not far left, you know it and i know it. Are there elements of far left involved, yes probably but the reality is far left is communist, we don't have a large group of communists in this country or in America. The support is coming from the far left, the left, the centre, the right of centre, white, black, asian, rich and poor. People that think everyone should be treated fairly.
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Two separate groups as I stated.
BLM and white led far left, such as antifa.
BLM seek white folk to pay reparations and defund or disband police....do you agree to pay up and get rid of UK police?
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
Black lives matter doesn't mean only black lives matter, it means we are supporting black lives because they are the ones facing these problems.
—-
Which of course they do know well. It’s just an easy linguistic straw-man for them to claim otherwise.
I’m out of here. This depresses me hugely.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair to you pointy you've been consistent on here about your willingness to sacrifice your wife in the pursuit of racial equality.
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Haha.
Pointy.
No worries that you want out.
Wise man.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Far left and right use this to recruit and stir it.
BLM are right calling for no black guys shot and equality and we all agree.
Now, it's turning into a hate white people and our history culture in UK or Europe or America.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't get this line of thought.
Yes people do despicable acts and should rightly be punished. So terror attacks have had a massive response. The culprits caught and punished or killed and extensive investigations into their families and friends to ensure no further involvement.
Never a mental health issue in sight
Yes the grooming gangs operated. Again locked up and many specific units set up.
This line of argument is akin to me a brown person saying after saville and prince Andrew the grooming gangs were racially victimised
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about Sadio Mané?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's he done?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11919262/mane-knee-video-liverpool-everton/
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Cheers mate. Missed that.
Was probably the highlight of the game. Another load of EPL garbage.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 seconds ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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I think more has been made of that than is accurate, the BLM protests were mainly a broader spectrum of protestors, i wouldn't deny some of those on the left caused problems but from what i seen on the TV it didnt look like much of that was ANTIFA. The right winger groups went for a pash up and to cause trouble not protect a statue that was already boarded up.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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Agreed.
Far left and right use this to recruit and stir it.
BLM are right calling for no black guys shot and equality and we all agree.
Now, it's turning into a hate white people and our history culture in UK or Europe or America.
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That's a bit simplistic in my opinion. I think its more do not celebrate the greatness of something built on the back of slavery, racism and exploitation. But inevitably it will cause problems as it can easily slide into a witch hunt finding evil everywhere. But for the most part it has simply challenged the idea that Britain and our history is great or even good.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
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Them uns......taking over Seattle to set up cop free zone and hand out guns to kids there, then a guy gets shot dead there over the weekend....that antifa type far left freakshow.
Not all left wing people are rational and wise.
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To qualify the BLM movement as Far Left is nonsense a deflection tactic used so you can criticise it without being overtly racist.
It's not far left, you know it and i know it. Are there elements of far left involved, yes probably but the reality is far left is communist, we don't have a large group of communists in this country or in America. The support is coming from the far left, the left, the centre, the right of centre, white, black, asian, rich and poor. People that think everyone should be treated fairly.
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Two separate groups as I stated.
BLM and white led far left, such as antifa.
BLM seek white folk to pay reparations and defund or disband police....do you agree to pay up and get rid of UK police?
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Lets be clear here BLM are not far left led, they are black people led. That is a rehearsed attack line used by racists so they can target BLM without being openly racist.
No they don't defund the police is an American aim, which if you look past the headlne isn't about getting rid of the police, it's about de-militarising the police. These police forces have huge budgets while the schools in the same areas can't afford text books but the police departments have tanks, water cannons, hugely expensive armory. Understand what defund the police actually means and it makes sense.
There is no mainstream movement to defund the police here. The issues with the police here are the systemic racism (mainly in the met) the stop and search tactics which targets minorities.
Again your reparations claim is wide of the mark, it may have been said it is not an agreed stated aim of the movement.
posted on 23/6/20
Jesus fecking Christ, what a shambles of a post.
Always good when they out themselves though.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
OP
Is this a wum or a call to have this conversation?
Critics of BLM argue it actually focuses on race and identity, over say class and poverty.
We all condemn the murder of Floyd by brutal cops.
Now, elements in the movement and far left seek to say every thing American, Scottish, British is racist and bad and a bit rubbish.
We just saw white guys murdered last weekend after white guys were attacked on their own in London the previous weekend.
White people get killed by cops and black racists, just as black people get killed by cops and white racists.
We have white girls groomed by Pakistani and north African men in England.
We have poor white trash in UK and America, who also get killed by UK cops.
Who speaks for them...if nobody does, the Far Right will.
Not sure why the EPL has to wear BLM tops and take the knee, after a shooting thousands of miles away either?
We can condemn police brutality and racism without jumping on a political far leftist and racialist bandwagon.
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Don't get this line of thought.
Yes people do despicable acts and should rightly be punished. So terror attacks have had a massive response. The culprits caught and punished or killed and extensive investigations into their families and friends to ensure no further involvement.
Never a mental health issue in sight
Yes the grooming gangs operated. Again locked up and many specific units set up.
This line of argument is akin to me a brown person saying after saville and prince Andrew the grooming gangs were racially victimised
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Many white girls still groomed, just as many black African girls married off underage to old men.
Many groomers not caught and cops failed to look after girls die to fearing racism calls.
Call Saville and Andy white groomers all day mate..they are skum too.
There are mental health issues too....white and black suffer this, as do extremists.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 seconds ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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I think more has been made of that than is accurate, the BLM protests were mainly a broader spectrum of protestors, i wouldn't deny some of those on the left caused problems but from what i seen on the TV it didnt look like much of that was ANTIFA. The right winger groups went for a pash up and to cause trouble not protect a statue that was already boarded up.
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Did you see random white guys battered in London last week, while out walking and presumed a football hooligan in a built up area?
Or black cops beaten by white BLM fanboys.
Or black cops killed by black looters and rioters after Floyd was killed.
posted on 23/6/20
The point that alot of people will make (don't shoot the messenger) is that had it said black lives matter it would of been applauded.
Lots of folk (not just the far right) will see that as double standards.
posted on 23/6/20
Andy having 'relations' with a 17 year old party girl isn't the same as Saville molesting 13/14 year olds in hospital.
posted on 23/6/20
Nice bit of racism in the morning.
BLM is a thing because to many in positions of power black lives don't matter.
Alllivesmatter is a counter from the far right. A good one too because it sounds well meaning. It's not, if you use it you are either racist or ignorant. If the second then please educate yourself. Alllivesmatter don't matter until black lives do.
White lives matter? Well that's a new one. If you are promoting the majority race that holds all the wealth and power well that's also got a word. Supremacy
This isn't just an American problem which up until the past year I naively believed until I educated myself on the matter.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
The point that alot of people will make (don't shoot the messenger) is that had it said black lives matter it would of been applauded.
Lots of folk (not just the far right) will see that as double standards.
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Stupid people will, and those people are the ones who need to be educated, not pandered to
posted on 23/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 seconds ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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I think more has been made of that than is accurate, the BLM protests were mainly a broader spectrum of protestors, i wouldn't deny some of those on the left caused problems but from what i seen on the TV it didnt look like much of that was ANTIFA. The right winger groups went for a pash up and to cause trouble not protect a statue that was already boarded up.
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Did you see random white guys battered in London last week, while out walking and presumed a football hooligan in a built up area?
Or black cops beaten by white BLM fanboys.
Or black cops killed by black looters and rioters after Floyd was killed.
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Whataboutery of the worst kind but i could play that game longer than you.
Do you remember the white cop kneeling on the black guys neck until he died?
Do you remember the white cop who shot an unarmed black woman in her house?
Do you remember the right wing guy being carried to safety on the shoulder of a black man? Do you know said white man was a Police man?
The whole point should be bad people are bad people regardless of the colour of their fooking skin you numpty.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
The point that alot of people will make (don't shoot the messenger) is that had it said black lives matter it would of been applauded.
Lots of folk (not just the far right) will see that as double standards.
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Stupid people will, and those people are the ones who need to be educated, not pandered to
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posted on 23/6/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Andy having 'relations' with a 17 year old party girl isn't the same as Saville molesting 13/14 year olds in hospital.
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Party girl.
Really? That's where you went with that. Wow.
Groomed sexual abuse victim but to you that's a party girl. Jesus wept.
posted on 23/6/20
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You are correct, Fash but it is also correct to recognise that the rival protests are being hijacked by elements of the far left and right and also fuelled by a media gagging for something other than Covid portraying it as a battle between far left and right.
Then, of course, in Glasgow we have our own unique sub-text of neanderthals on both sides.
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Agreed.
Far left and right use this to recruit and stir it.
BLM are right calling for no black guys shot and equality and we all agree.
Now, it's turning into a hate white people and our history culture in UK or Europe or America.
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That's a bit simplistic in my opinion. I think its more do not celebrate the greatness of something built on the back of slavery, racism and exploitation. But inevitably it will cause problems as it can easily slide into a witch hunt finding evil everywhere. But for the most part it has simply challenged the idea that Britain and our history is great or even good.
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You mean they call it GREAT Britain when it is not great?
A bit like the UNITED Kingdom then?
posted on 23/6/20
comment by HB Fash - GERRARD OUT (U21935)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Andy having 'relations' with a 17 year old party girl isn't the same as Saville molesting 13/14 year olds in hospital.
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Party girl.
Really? That's where you went with that. Wow.
Groomed sexual abuse victim but to you that's a party girl. Jesus wept.
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I watched that filthy rich on Netflix. Grim
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