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posted on 29/8/20

I agree. They are very top heavy.

They had the joint 12th best defence in the league.

Can’t see 36 year old Thiago Silva coming in and having a Van Dijk like impact.

Think they’ll be 3rd or 4th but I’m not quaking one my boots thinking about them.

A couple of smart additions and I’d still be confident we’ll finish above them.

posted on 29/8/20

Think people underestimate them defensively if rudiger n kante play a full season fit their def will improve regardless. Also kepa was pretty shocking if they use anyone else in goal prob improve them too.

Werner hits the ground running continues his form could get 30 goals in the league, pulisic is talented enough to be pots too.

posted on 29/8/20

They've got some lethal attacking options though, if they all click they could be pushing towards 100 goals at least.

Could be like Liverpool in 2014 where they'd outscore the majority of their opponents but just pull up short at the end.

posted on 29/8/20

Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
Think people underestimate them defensively if rudiger n kante play a full season fit their def will improve regardless. Also kepa was pretty shocking if they use anyone else in goal prob improve them too.

Werner hits the ground running continues his form could get 30 goals in the league, pulisic is talented enough to be pots too.
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Rudiger isn’t all that and big question marks about Kante. Looks injury prone these days and often players with his all action style deteriorate massively in their late 20s.

We’ll see I suppose

posted on 29/8/20

As things stand, I think it’ll be a straight scrap between Liverpool and City, with Chelsea following pretty closely.

If they can wrap up Havertz and get the attack gelling, they won’t be worrying too much about being leaky at the back, because they should be scoring for fun.

We should be the best of the rest, but we’ll undoubtedly lose Bruno, Pogba and Martial at different points through the season, and will suffer each time. Chelsea have much stronger depth up top than we do at present.

I expect Spurs, Wolves and Arsenal all to be pushing us.

posted on 29/8/20

I dont think they overachieved either, they finished 4th with the 3rd most expensive squad in the league at their disposal? Look like theyll be adding 250m to it they should be expected to challenge.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.

posted on 29/8/20

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comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.

posted on 29/8/20

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As things stand, I think it’ll be a straight scrap between Liverpool and City, with Chelsea following pretty closely.

If they can wrap up Havertz and get the attack gelling, they won’t be worrying too much about being leaky at the back, because they should be scoring for fun.

We should be the best of the rest, but we’ll undoubtedly lose Bruno, Pogba and Martial at different points through the season, and will suffer each time. Chelsea have much stronger depth up top than we do at present.

I expect Spurs, Wolves and Arsenal all to be pushing us.
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Nothing Spurs, Wolves and Arsenal have done or are likely to do in the window suggests they will push us if we continue the form we’ve showed since Bruno arrived.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 minutes ago
I dont think they overachieved either, they finished 4th with the 3rd most expensive squad in the league at their disposal? Look like theyll be adding 250m to it they should be expected to challenge.
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I agree. Lampard has no excuses now.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve installed this camera (U17054)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.
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Liverpool wanted Werner to replace Firmino.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve installed this camera (U17054)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.
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Liverpool wanted Werner to replace Firmino.
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The first part of your comment is correct.

posted on 29/8/20

Even if Chelsea, after the window shuts, have players even close to those in the top 2 in terms of ability, the one key ingredient they don't have, is a world class manager.
Something many fans seem to forget when they start handing out accolades at the start of the season based on transfers alone.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
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comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve installed this camera (U17054)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.
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Liverpool wanted Werner to replace Firmino.
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The first part of your comment is correct.
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? Who else was he replacing? Salah?

posted on 29/8/20

Doubt he was replacing anyone hence why we didnt pay the asking price. He was looked at as an option to rotate the front 3 more than likely and challenge for first team.

posted on 29/8/20

I think the problem is that with United, you always get the feeling that if the window ended a month earlier, we'd get deals done a month earlier. So it's not necessarily about how long you have to wrap things up, rather that there is a drawn out saga driven by brinkmanship. That's an incredibly risky strategy when you only negotiate for one target at a time if, as is widely reported, that's how we do things. And in terms of recent signings, it doesn't seem to have reduced the eventual price tag paid much, if at all.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve installed this camera (U17054)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.
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Liverpool wanted Werner to replace Firmino.
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No Klopp wanted him and the club said no apparently. Not sure he would be a direct Firmino replacement more of another option for all 3 positions.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve installed this camera (U17054)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.
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Liverpool wanted Werner to replace Firmino.
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The first part of your comment is correct.
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? Who else was he replacing? Salah?
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Why do you think he has to replace anybody? It's called having options.

posted on 29/8/20

The lesson we should draw from Chelsea is that you use the transfer window to conclude deals not start negotiating, monitoring, bidding and improving bids. They've had 18 months to prepare for this window, to be sure, but we've had one year to prepare for the Sancho deal.

posted on 29/8/20

Werner
Abraham
Giroud
Havertz
Pulisic
Ziyech
CHO

Aguero
Jesus
Torres
Sterling
Mahrez
B Silva

Firmino
Origi
Brewster
Salah
Mane
Minamino
Shaqiri
Ojo

I know which group I’d take.

posted on 29/8/20

comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve installed this camera (U17054)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 13 seconds ago
Are Chelsea buying players better than those already playing in similar positions at other clubs?
Well, certainly not in comparison to Liverpool and City.
It's arguable whether their front 3 is better than Uniteds, so as has been said, I don't see Chelsea doing anything other than battling for top 4 again, almost certainly with United.

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Tie up Havertz and for me they’ll have the best attacking options in the league, and arguably in Europe.
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No chance.
Both those players would struggle to get in either of City or Liverpools front line.
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Liverpool wanted Werner to replace Firmino.
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The first part of your comment is correct.
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? Who else was he replacing? Salah?
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Why do you think he has to replace anybody? It's called having options.
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True. If we sign Sancho, Greenwood isn't going to be permanently benched. It will allow another quality option, rotation and help stave off burnout. As it currently stands, we risk overplaying Greenwood, to the detriment of his long term future

posted on 29/8/20

I just think it's no coincidence that while Firmino is having a bad season that Liverpool are trying to sign one of the best striker in Europe. But maybe I'm wrong.

posted on 29/8/20

They'll be great to watch. I can see lampard trying to squeeze as many attackers in as possible at first which should leave them very open at the back but imagine he'll move to something a little more pragmatic eventually.

posted on 29/8/20

Did Firmino have a bad season?

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