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posted on 2/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
Genuine question as I don’t really know the ins and outs but could the Tom Brady deal have taken any money away from the United transfer fund? I’ve seen people saying they’re two separate entities in the same business but could there be anything in it?

We came top 4 last season so perhaps the Glazers feel we’re doing well enough not to need any big injections of money and they’re prioritising Tampa this year.

Dunno, business/American football experts put me right please.
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No is the answer. We wouldn’t have spent so long piiiiiissing about trying to sign Sancho if there was no intention of big money being invested in the squad.
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True but weren’t we trying to pay much less upfront?
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Yes but that has nothing to do with Tom Brady. The Bucs are under the salary cap, no money from United - or the owners back pockets - is funding that deal.
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Okay. Imagine we caved in and paid £108 million for Sancho on Monday. I’d be stoked but it’s 100%clear that everyone in the game knows to just wait and wait and eventually we’ll pay. Even Hafi could barter better than that.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 9 seconds ago

Even Hafi could barter better than that.
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oh the hafi neogitation app is a thing of beauty.

posted on 2/10/20

Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.

posted on 2/10/20

in recent years liverpool have sold ibe, solanke, ward, hoever, and brewster - none of whom had made any impact at all at the club - for a combined c. £80m.

this is more than we received, in total, for all of blind, januzaj, depay, zaha, nani, michael keane, van persie, rafael, evans, hernandez, josh king, and pogba (to juve).

how can we have more acadeny graduates in the PL than any other club, but make so little money from them? what is the opposite of moneyball?

posted on 2/10/20

We put players on such high salaries that it makes it very hard to get a good fee for them unless you sell to one of the big clubs, and how often do they want any of our players?

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 55 seconds ago
We put players on such high salaries that it makes it very hard to get a good fee for them unless you sell to one of the big clubs, and how often do they want any of our players?
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without going through all the players i cannot say whether that is true or not.

but did solanke sign for liverpool for £5k a week? don't pool pay their players more than bournemouth, or sheffield united?

high wages may be an explanation, i doubt they are the only one. but whatever, i just hope that someone at the club is taking notice of stuff like this, and asking why we are so terrible at this whole buying and selling players lark.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 5 minutes ago
in recent years liverpool have sold ibe, solanke, ward, hoever, and brewster - none of whom had made any impact at all at the club - for a combined c. £80m.

this is more than we received, in total, for all of blind, januzaj, depay, zaha, nani, michael keane, van persie, rafael, evans, hernandez, josh king, and pogba (to juve).

how can we have more acadeny graduates in the PL than any other club, but make so little money from them? what is the opposite of moneyball?
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I could hedge a bet that Liverpool and City are the biggest clubs involved with money laundering activites.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
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This.

It is a lack of competence rather than a lack of ambition.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 5 minutes ago
in recent years liverpool have sold ibe, solanke, ward, hoever, and brewster - none of whom had made any impact at all at the club - for a combined c. £80m.

this is more than we received, in total, for all of blind, januzaj, depay, zaha, nani, michael keane, van persie, rafael, evans, hernandez, josh king, and pogba (to juve).

how can we have more acadeny graduates in the PL than any other club, but make so little money from them? what is the opposite of moneyball?
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I could hedge a bet that Liverpool and City are the biggest clubs involved with money laundering activites.
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posted on 2/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
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There does seem to be a lack of motivation to spend after high-ish league seasons

Summer of 15 - LVG comes 4th and we don’t spend enough to push on

Summer of 18 - Jose comes second and see above

Summer of 20 - Ole comes third and see above.


Perhaps a coincidence.

posted on 2/10/20

Thing is, the amount we are paying for players and receiving for them, isn’t actually that big an issue. Player trading isn’t, as hasn’t, been a source of income that we rely on.

I’m more concerned by the ability to actually get things together on the pitch. That’s been the most criminal aspect of how we are run.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 5 minutes ago
in recent years liverpool have sold ibe, solanke, ward, hoever, and brewster - none of whom had made any impact at all at the club - for a combined c. £80m.

this is more than we received, in total, for all of blind, januzaj, depay, zaha, nani, michael keane, van persie, rafael, evans, hernandez, josh king, and pogba (to juve).

how can we have more acadeny graduates in the PL than any other club, but make so little money from them? what is the opposite of moneyball?
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I could hedge a bet that Liverpool and City are the biggest clubs involved with money laundering activites.
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The Peds don't pay for themselves.

Just you wait we'll be awarded the 2018 and 2020 titles soon.

22 times 22 times Man United...

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Constantinople (U11781)

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I could hedge a bet that Liverpool and City are the biggest clubs involved with money laundering activites.
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sometimes you do wonder. solanke and ibe (just released by bournemouth) had 2 goals in 62 PL appearances between them, but somehow bournemouth thought that was worth c. £35m.

januzaj had twice as many as the pair of him combined, yet we get £10m for him. zaha £6m (!), plus a worthless to date sell-on fee.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
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There does seem to be a lack of motivation to spend after high-ish league seasons

Summer of 15 - LVG comes 4th and we don’t spend enough to push on

Summer of 18 - Jose comes second and see above

Summer of 20 - Ole comes third and see above.


Perhaps a coincidence.
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Van Gaal spent over £100m that summer. 2018 was a shiiiiiit show but if I recall we kept trying to sign Griezmann and Bale, and Leicester wanted silly money for Maguire and the big name cb’s Mourinho wanted weren’t possible. This summer tells it’s own story.

It’s incompetence rather than a reluctance to spend money.

posted on 2/10/20

The annoying thing is that our one ‘superpower’ is having money. If we wanted to flex those muscles we could have bought Sancho for the stated fee back in July and allowed Smalling to go for the fee Roma were prepared to pay. Then after seeing Upamecano star for Leipzig just bought him straight away with an offer they couldn’t refuse.

We’d be going into the season with far more confidence. Even the Reguilon thing was stupid. He’s a superb player yet we didn’t want to risk losing him to Real in a few seasons. Yet that was almost the safest financial bet as if we did lose him we’d still make a guaranteed profit. We looked at it as beneath us but Bayern just won a CL with two loanees.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
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There does seem to be a lack of motivation to spend after high-ish league seasons

Summer of 15 - LVG comes 4th and we don’t spend enough to push on

Summer of 18 - Jose comes second and see above

Summer of 20 - Ole comes third and see above.


Perhaps a coincidence.
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We spent quite a bit after that LVG season if memory serves. Martial, Depay and Schneiderlin all arrived for decent money. Schweinsteiger too.

Summer 18 was all on Ed, who it seemed wanted to stick with Jose despite not really wanting to back him.

This one...let's see. I think the money is there for Sancho, but Ed's got himself into a no-win situation here. We either pay up what Dortmund want or we don't get him- either way he loses face.

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 2/10/20

There needs to be an interogation into how things are run by the club. Not like that would ever happen or go public. Sigh.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 36 minutes ago
Ole said back in august that we’d ‘exploit’ the market due to covid. Now he’s saying he was wrong and doing the whole ‘I’m happy with my squad’ schtick.

Looks like our summer of business is over.
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When did he say he was happy with the squad Robb? I haven't seen that.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 36 minutes ago
Ole said back in august that we’d ‘exploit’ the market due to covid. Now he’s saying he was wrong and doing the whole ‘I’m happy with my squad’ schtick.

Looks like our summer of business is over.
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When did he say he was happy with the squad Robb? I haven't seen that.
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"They [United] know my view," added Solskjaer. "The transfer window is still open for a little while. If something happens in or out you will get to know.

"There are many ways of improving a team. I keep reading about the players who should be playing instead of the ones who aren't because they are performing well. That tells me I have a strong squad. There is competition for places.

"We need results. That is the only way of affecting the mood at the club - the players and staff. All the rest is short-term moods."

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 2/10/20

Maybe he's just generalising with Ole's generic quotes over the duration.

posted on 2/10/20

I think it's obvious from that (taken from the BBC) he's unhappy.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
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There does seem to be a lack of motivation to spend after high-ish league seasons

Summer of 15 - LVG comes 4th and we don’t spend enough to push on

Summer of 18 - Jose comes second and see above

Summer of 20 - Ole comes third and see above.


Perhaps a coincidence.
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We did bring in quite a few players in 2015 though. Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Romero, Depay and Martial, if I remember. I know some were free or thereabouts but it's quite a few names.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
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There does seem to be a lack of motivation to spend after high-ish league seasons

Summer of 15 - LVG comes 4th and we don’t spend enough to push on

Summer of 18 - Jose comes second and see above

Summer of 20 - Ole comes third and see above.


Perhaps a coincidence.
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We did bring in quite a few players in 2015 though. Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Romero, Depay and Martial, if I remember. I know some were free or thereabouts but it's quite a few names.
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True, but we did go into the season without a striker of note other than old Rooney and I remember in the Jan window we were struggling and no one was brought in.

posted on 2/10/20

comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Robb Pacino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Rob, yeah we are a bit of an embarrassment in the market. But there’s not a lack of incentive to spend money (we outspend most clubs in Europe in fees and wages), nor are the owners using transfer funds for the Bucs or dividends.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There does seem to be a lack of motivation to spend after high-ish league seasons

Summer of 15 - LVG comes 4th and we don’t spend enough to push on

Summer of 18 - Jose comes second and see above

Summer of 20 - Ole comes third and see above.


Perhaps a coincidence.
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We did bring in quite a few players in 2015 though. Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Romero, Depay and Martial, if I remember. I know some were free or thereabouts but it's quite a few names.
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True, but we did go into the season without a striker of note other than old Rooney and I remember in the Jan window we were struggling and no one was brought in.
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Oh yes, the lack of forwards that season was ridiculous, and compounded by shipping out Januzaj and Chicharito after a couple of games. I wonder if they'd sort of mind their minds up about Van Gaal by January, to be honest.

posted on 2/10/20

At this point, would anyone not want us to spend £108 million this weekend on Sancho?

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