Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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posted 32 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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Shame your dad didn’t finish in his sock. Based on your personality he sounds like a right
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comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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posted 20 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
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What a load of made up nonsense. However I do find it amusing how brainwashed sheeple like yourself cry so much about these fictitious characters that the daily mail pointed your feeble mind towards. Yet sit shtum about the tax-avoiding, system dodging millionaires/billionaires who instead of getting a little bit of tax payer money to get a mobile phone or drink alcohol (god forbid) use the tax breaks to buy themselves their third super yacht or second Maserati etc. Now whose a good boy
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
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What a load of made up nonsense. However I do find it amusing how brainwashed sheeple like yourself cry so much about these fictitious characters that the daily mail pointed your feeble mind towards. Yet sit shtum about the tax-avoiding, system dodging millionaires/billionaires who instead of getting a little bit of tax payer money to get a mobile phone or drink alcohol (god forbid) use the tax breaks to buy themselves their third super yacht or second Maserati etc. Now whose a good boy
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Who’s not whose.
Also you are neglecting to mention the benefits to society that come from these millionaire/billionaire types that you mention.
Plus the OP was a long time ago regarding an increase of military spending and then Marcus Rashford got brought up and now we’re talking about benefits and the poverty levels.
I think I’d rather us bring in a UBI if it will mean you guys will shoot the fk up. Here’s a prediction for you; it will make people worse off.
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Benefits how? Funding the cayman economy?
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posted 56 seconds ago
Benefits how? Funding the cayman economy?
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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posted 56 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
60k debt when it includes the mortgage is peanuts.
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60k is the *average* debt.
Low-income households over the last ten years (as the United Nations report highlighted) has seen a stark raise in consumer debt.
As more and more normal household purchases / bills/ food are being purchased via credit card (average interest @ 20%). Multiple charities, trade bodies, debt support groups across the country (including the FCA) have universally reached the same conclusions over the last number of years in regard to consumer debt.
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And that average is peanuts when a house is £200k.
Consumer debt is bad management. I know I was a victim ππ of it for many years.
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Consumer debt is a massive problem, wonder what % of benefits given out goes straight to credit cards and payday loan companies in interest.
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posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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I had Arab a few months ago saying that it wouldn’t and hadn't saved any jobs at all.
Of course I was explaining that this was a really good thing that the Tory government implemented and a lot of people here really struggle to compliment the Tories when it’s due.
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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I hope you enjoy said episode.
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posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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He’s saying that they’re all scuuum so all of those mentioned cost the taxpayer so it’s not just this right wing propaganda against the underclass scamming the system at all.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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I hope you enjoy said episode.
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Teletubbies is usually on in the am anyway, as most parents know. For just shoot this would mean that someone he hadn’t paid for would have to put out, very unlikely
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But I didn’t mentioned scamming the system. I’m talking about an underclass, that is in legitimately in need of welfare, being demonised by working class people in society. It’s very much a right wing propaganda that has effectively perpetuated this nonsense among the working class.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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I had Arab a few months ago saying that it wouldn’t and hadn't saved any jobs at all.
Of course I was explaining that this was a really good thing that the Tory government implemented and a lot of people here really struggle to compliment the Tories when it’s due.
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Wasn't really the point I was making, that there will be those who vocalize how everyone using the safety net is using 'ar money to buy big TV's and drugs' will now be silently appreciating the safety net.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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I hope you enjoy said episode.
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Teletubbies is usually on in the am anyway, as most parents know. For just shoot this would mean that someone he hadn’t paid for would have to put out, very unlikely
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Did that make sense in your head? ππ
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you didn’t understand that? Imagine my surprise
we need to enlarge the navy to defend our waters against eu fishing boats!
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I refuse to believe the hateful Tory-based crap blaming the poor for their own misfortune is stupidity anymore. It's straight up dehumanising cruelty. They (largely) understand exactly what it means to blame the parents of a child with malnutrition and accuse them of negligence. They genuinely believe that there are large numbers of people out there that happily let their kids go hungry so that they can enjoy luxuries. Despite all of the research showing child poverty on the increase, and common sense telling you that not only do most people care about their kids, but they also want a better life for them, they actually believe that poor people don't think the same as them. This lack of human compassion is not something that you can explain away, it's a negative personality trait. It's the same way of thinking the military employs in propaganda to condition soldiers for war. They would rather 'other' people and blame them for their suffering than examine their own prejudices.
Saying 'these right wing idiots' when they're ignoring the evidence about children suffering is to give them too much credit. They're a hateful, and divisive section of society that deserve and (by their own logic) should receive no compassion or kindness from the rest of us.
Let’s just do 90% income tax kicking in at £70,000 and give everyone an equal amount of the money received.
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Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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Shame your dad didn’t finish in his sock. Based on your personality he sounds like a right
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
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What a load of made up nonsense. However I do find it amusing how brainwashed sheeple like yourself cry so much about these fictitious characters that the daily mail pointed your feeble mind towards. Yet sit shtum about the tax-avoiding, system dodging millionaires/billionaires who instead of getting a little bit of tax payer money to get a mobile phone or drink alcohol (god forbid) use the tax breaks to buy themselves their third super yacht or second Maserati etc. Now whose a good boy
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
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What a load of made up nonsense. However I do find it amusing how brainwashed sheeple like yourself cry so much about these fictitious characters that the daily mail pointed your feeble mind towards. Yet sit shtum about the tax-avoiding, system dodging millionaires/billionaires who instead of getting a little bit of tax payer money to get a mobile phone or drink alcohol (god forbid) use the tax breaks to buy themselves their third super yacht or second Maserati etc. Now whose a good boy
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Who’s not whose.
Also you are neglecting to mention the benefits to society that come from these millionaire/billionaire types that you mention.
Plus the OP was a long time ago regarding an increase of military spending and then Marcus Rashford got brought up and now we’re talking about benefits and the poverty levels.
I think I’d rather us bring in a UBI if it will mean you guys will shoot the fk up. Here’s a prediction for you; it will make people worse off.
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
Benefits how? Funding the cayman economy?
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 56 seconds ago
Benefits how? Funding the cayman economy?
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posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
60k debt when it includes the mortgage is peanuts.
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60k is the *average* debt.
Low-income households over the last ten years (as the United Nations report highlighted) has seen a stark raise in consumer debt.
As more and more normal household purchases / bills/ food are being purchased via credit card (average interest @ 20%). Multiple charities, trade bodies, debt support groups across the country (including the FCA) have universally reached the same conclusions over the last number of years in regard to consumer debt.
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And that average is peanuts when a house is £200k.
Consumer debt is bad management. I know I was a victim ππ of it for many years.
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Consumer debt is a massive problem, wonder what % of benefits given out goes straight to credit cards and payday loan companies in interest.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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I had Arab a few months ago saying that it wouldn’t and hadn't saved any jobs at all.
Of course I was explaining that this was a really good thing that the Tory government implemented and a lot of people here really struggle to compliment the Tories when it’s due.
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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I hope you enjoy said episode.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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He’s saying that they’re all scuuum so all of those mentioned cost the taxpayer so it’s not just this right wing propaganda against the underclass scamming the system at all.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
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comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
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comment by Hector (U3606)
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comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
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Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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I hope you enjoy said episode.
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Teletubbies is usually on in the am anyway, as most parents know. For just shoot this would mean that someone he hadn’t paid for would have to put out, very unlikely
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
But I didn’t mentioned scamming the system. I’m talking about an underclass, that is in legitimately in need of welfare, being demonised by working class people in society. It’s very much a right wing propaganda that has effectively perpetuated this nonsense among the working class.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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I had Arab a few months ago saying that it wouldn’t and hadn't saved any jobs at all.
Of course I was explaining that this was a really good thing that the Tory government implemented and a lot of people here really struggle to compliment the Tories when it’s due.
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Wasn't really the point I was making, that there will be those who vocalize how everyone using the safety net is using 'ar money to buy big TV's and drugs' will now be silently appreciating the safety net.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
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comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Jinja, it’s horrible really. It can make it even harder for people to get back into stable employment as well when many will be worse off. There are issues with the welfare system, it’s not good enough, in my opinion, but what really needs to be addressed is rental control and employment exploitation. Working people and families should not be in poverty, but this has been deliberately allowed to happen. Then people demonise people for struggling on benefits.
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I wonder how many former demonizers are benefiting from the furlough scheme?
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Millions I would imagine. Right wing media has done an incredible job of convincing working class people that the underclass are the real problem in society. To the point that these same working class people will have their worker’s rights, and living conditions, eroded while defending this actually happening and still blaming the ‘benefits scroungers’ for wasting tax payer’s money.
It’s repulsive, but I quite admire how effective their propaganda machine really is.
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This may blow your mind but, benefit cheats, SC*m, tax cheats, SC*m, billionaires, sc*m, etc.
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That has no relevance to my post, but thanks for your input.
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Can't join the dots, no? Never mind, Teletubbies will be on soon.
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I hope you enjoy said episode.
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Teletubbies is usually on in the am anyway, as most parents know. For just shoot this would mean that someone he hadn’t paid for would have to put out, very unlikely
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Did that make sense in your head? ππ
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you didn’t understand that? Imagine my surprise
posted on 19/11/20
we need to enlarge the navy to defend our waters against eu fishing boats!
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
I refuse to believe the hateful Tory-based crap blaming the poor for their own misfortune is stupidity anymore. It's straight up dehumanising cruelty. They (largely) understand exactly what it means to blame the parents of a child with malnutrition and accuse them of negligence. They genuinely believe that there are large numbers of people out there that happily let their kids go hungry so that they can enjoy luxuries. Despite all of the research showing child poverty on the increase, and common sense telling you that not only do most people care about their kids, but they also want a better life for them, they actually believe that poor people don't think the same as them. This lack of human compassion is not something that you can explain away, it's a negative personality trait. It's the same way of thinking the military employs in propaganda to condition soldiers for war. They would rather 'other' people and blame them for their suffering than examine their own prejudices.
Saying 'these right wing idiots' when they're ignoring the evidence about children suffering is to give them too much credit. They're a hateful, and divisive section of society that deserve and (by their own logic) should receive no compassion or kindness from the rest of us.
posted on 19/11/20
Let’s just do 90% income tax kicking in at £70,000 and give everyone an equal amount of the money received.
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