I reckon José has a point. It's not like it's news that Dele is doing fancy flicks and giving the ball away. I bet there's a few in the dressing room that are sick of having to win the ball back because of him, too.

Those Dele flicks really cost us possession in games.
Got to blame him for the results against Leicester, liverpool and Palace. That penalty he gave away at the weekend was unforgivable.

José is a bad manager. That result against City was his fault.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 19 seconds ago
José is a bad manager. That result against City was his fault.
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I agree no manager has ever beaten the high flying city.

I'm not drunk enough for this conversation.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
I reckon José has a point. It's not like it's news that Dele is doing fancy flicks and giving the ball away. I bet there's a few in the dressing room that are sick of having to win the ball back because of him, too.
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Can’t it be looked at as trying different things (that others can’t do) that sometimes pay off and sometimes don’t?

Why must everybody become a plodding workhorse under Jose???

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 56 seconds ago
I'm not drunk enough for this conversation.
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Ok let me know when you ready

The ball went back to stokes keeper after Dele have the ball away, hardly a lightning fast counter attack. Blaming Dele for the defence being all at sea is silly

Dele was very good yesterday

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
I reckon José has a point. It's not like it's news that Dele is doing fancy flicks and giving the ball away. I bet there's a few in the dressing room that are sick of having to win the ball back because of him, too.
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Can’t it be looked at as trying different things (that others can’t do) that sometimes pay off and sometimes don’t?

Why must everybody become a plodding workhorse under Jose???
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Bringing it out in public and attacking the player publicly is despicable and typical Jose. Addressing issues like that is why you have a manager. Jose doesn't need to tell us what work is needed because its his job to do that work. We don't need to be hearing this IMO. Handle it indoors.

I'm sure Alli isn't the only player he has ever had an issue with. Why make the Alli issue a public one? Why not the next guy? It's how Jose operates. Other managers have similar issues too I'm sure, it doesn't happen to Jose alone, but rarely if ever do you see a manager making such an issue a public affair.

Poor Alli needs to find a new club. Somebody always gets hurt when Jose is around and too bad this time it had to be him.

How convenient he's now said this just when Spurs have lost some pace in the league. Good distraction. Tell Jose to stop crying and manage the team.

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
I reckon José has a point. It's not like it's news that Dele is doing fancy flicks and giving the ball away. I bet there's a few in the dressing room that are sick of having to win the ball back because of him, too.
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Can’t it be looked at as trying different things (that others can’t do) that sometimes pay off and sometimes don’t?

Why must everybody become a plodding workhorse under Jose???
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Bringing it out in public and attacking the player publicly is despicable and typical Jose. Addressing issues like that is why you have a manager. Jose doesn't need to tell us what work is needed because its his job to do that work. We don't need to be hearing this IMO. Handle it indoors.

I'm sure Alli isn't the only player he has ever had an issue with. Why make the Alli issue a public one? Why not the next guy? It's how Jose operates. Other managers have similar issues too I'm sure, it doesn't happen to Jose alone, but rarely if ever do you see a manager making such an issue a public affair.

Poor Alli needs to find a new club. Somebody always gets hurt when Jose is around and too bad this time it had to be him.

How convenient he's now said this just when Spurs have lost some pace in the league. Good distraction. Tell Jose to stop crying and manage the team.
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
I reckon José has a point. It's not like it's news that Dele is doing fancy flicks and giving the ball away. I bet there's a few in the dressing room that are sick of having to win the ball back because of him, too.
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Can’t it be looked at as trying different things (that others can’t do) that sometimes pay off and sometimes don’t?

Why must everybody become a plodding workhorse under Jose???
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Bringing it out in public and attacking the player publicly is despicable and typical Jose. Addressing issues like that is why you have a manager. Jose doesn't need to tell us what work is needed because its his job to do that work. We don't need to be hearing this IMO. Handle it indoors.

I'm sure Alli isn't the only player he has ever had an issue with. Why make the Alli issue a public one? Why not the next guy? It's how Jose operates. Other managers have similar issues too I'm sure, it doesn't happen to Jose alone, but rarely if ever do you see a manager making such an issue a public affair.

Poor Alli needs to find a new club. Somebody always gets hurt when Jose is around and too bad this time it had to be him.

How convenient he's now said this just when Spurs have lost some pace in the league. Good distraction. Tell Jose to stop crying and manage the team.
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Spot on.

Mourinho has made a successful career out of challenging players to be better. This whole 'despicable Jose' narrative is good fun, granted, but more often than not he's right. He was right about Pogba and Ndombele. He was right about Luke Shaw and Aurier. We're not accustomed to managers calling out players because they're so pampered and pandered to these days it seems outrageous. But, in my opinion at least, he's got a point here. And it's the same point us fans have been making for years.

Dele's flicks and tricks are great when they come off and create a goal. That's ok but do them in the box, not in midfield. He wasn't going to achieve anything even if it came off yesterday. It was a poor decision and poorly executed. Does that deserve public criticism? Probably not. Has he told Dele to cut it out? Almost certainly. Would any player keep their place in any team if they consistently went against what they'd been told? No.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago


Mourinho has made a successful career out of challenging players to be better. This whole 'despicable Jose' narrative is good fun, granted, but more often than not he's right. He was right about Pogba and Ndombele. He was right about Luke Shaw and Aurier. We're not accustomed to managers calling out players because they're so pampered and pandered to these days it seems outrageous. But, in my opinion at least, he's got a point here. And it's the same point us fans have been making for years.

Dele's flicks and tricks are great when they come off and create a goal. That's ok but do them in the box, not in midfield. He wasn't going to achieve anything even if it came off yesterday. It was a poor decision and poorly executed. Does that deserve public criticism? Probably not. Has he told Dele to cut it out? Almost certainly. Would any player keep their place in any team if they consistently went against what they'd been told? No.
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Does critising your players in public ever end well?

Only a couple of days ago Jose was saying “we win, draw or lose” together. Could it be that in fact he’s full of $hit?

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 12 minutes ago
Mourinho has made a successful career out of challenging players to be better.
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He doesnt challenge players to be better IMO. He just picks one or some of them, or even a member of staff, to embarrass in public as a tactic to keep others in line. A sacrificial lamb.

Other managers manage to challenge players without these episodes. Its not the traditional way you expect a a manager to motivate his players. Its a bit diabolic, if you will.

Furthermore, this challenging of players alienates players and causes division and as Jose walks away in slow motion the club he just left always seems to be bursting into flames.

This whole 'despicable Jose' narrative is good fun, granted, but more often than not he's right. He was right about Pogba and Ndombele. He was right about Luke Shaw and Aurier.
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So what if he was right about Shaw etc? That doesn't make it ok to make it public. Other managers manage to win and handle players without this embarrassing public stuff. Him being right or not is not the point. The issue is how he chooses to adress the issue.


We're not accustomed to managers calling out players because they're so pampered and pandered to these days it seems outrageous. But, in my opinion at least, he's got a point here. And it's the same point us fans have been making for years.
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Even the manager at burger king doesn't handle issues in public like this.

Its not about being pampered or pandered to. Its just a minimum standard of a civilised way to handle affairs.

Other managers don't publicise this stuff so we can't make a list of all the times they were right about a particular player, because they handle that in private and we hardly, if ever really know about it.

Never have I disliked a Spurs manager as I do Jose Mourinho.

Does critising your players in public ever end well?
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When has it ever ended well for Jose?

His modus operandi is not sustainable over a long period. His career is proof of that.

comment by Troy's Tanguy Tanganga of Tottenham (U6468)
posted 4 minutes ago
Never have I disliked a Spurs manager as I do Jose Mourinho.
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Harsh!












But fair.

https://twitter.com/ComradeYouSpurs/status/1341881835442352128?s=19

Lucas giving the ball away all the time ever been mentioned by jose?

Jose is a narcissist, Its always everybody elses fault but his own.
It must be horrendous when nothings ever good enough. One error and your on joses hitlist. Players make mistakes. you shouldnt be emotionally bullied for it.

comment by Liverpoolwontberemoved (U22523)
posted 8 seconds ago
Jose is a narcissist, Its always everybody elses fault but his own.
It must be horrendous when nothings ever good enough. One error and your on joses hitlist. Players make mistakes. you shouldnt be emotionally bullied for it.
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 14 minutes ago
Does critising your players in public ever end well?
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When has it ever ended well for Jose?

His modus operandi is not sustainable over a long period. His career is proof of that.
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With all due respect, his career is up there as one of the best in the world ever.

Whatever he does, it works most of the time. If that means short term success then that's what he offers.

I don't think there are too many on here who can even think about knocking his career.

I genuinely don't get it. If you want him to not do the tricks etc just coach it out of him and sit him down to talk it through and encourage him. Why does their always need to be a guy to blame publicly?

Lucas and Lamela when playing give the ball away in similar positions to that Dele does yet neither have been outed.

I dont think Jose is a bad guy, he is just a weirdo and over does the mind games and overthinks the game in the current state. Concentrate on the football and managing the squad and actually football match properly. Stop with the constant digs at players, opposition coaches and talking nonsense just to provoke a media reaction.