I've said it before. No confidence in Raya. Poor keeper. I don't think he will ever pull off a match winning save like Ramsdale did 100s of times. Not a stopper and I dread it every time soneonecshoorsczt him directly. Poor positioning. Will lose us games, titles and cups. Get rid!

comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
posted about a minute ago
comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 minute ago
We've played so negatively for the entire 90 and Raya in the last 10 minutes has been releasing the ball quickly it's just so confusing either play with some tempo or realise that we've shut up shop and play for the whistle.
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You mean the same tactic that helped us beat Liverpool? Porto offered nothing in final third so why would Raya be worried about starting counters when they push forward?
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This 1-0 win means that they can sit back and counter. And believe me they will be dangerous. Can we break this tight defense? Watching this game tonight I have my doubts.

comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 3 minutes ago
Shows how important Jesus is especially in Europe. Our attack was toothless.
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Its easy to say Jesus would have been better but I honestly think Porto was just much better out of possession than we expected, better than Arteta expected perhaps.

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posted 30 seconds ago
comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 minute ago
We've played so negatively for the entire 90 and Raya in the last 10 minutes has been releasing the ball quickly it's just so confusing either play with some tempo or realise that we've shut up shop and play for the whistle.
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You mean the same tactic that helped us beat Liverpool? Porto offered nothing in final third so why would Raya be worried about starting counters when they push forward?
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You've got to take into account how we were playing against Liverpool we played well with tempo. Players should be able to think on their feet and realise the game situation, we're not playing well so do what is required to keep the team intact and level for the second leg.

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comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
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comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 minute ago
We've played so negatively for the entire 90 and Raya in the last 10 minutes has been releasing the ball quickly it's just so confusing either play with some tempo or realise that we've shut up shop and play for the whistle.
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You mean the same tactic that helped us beat Liverpool? Porto offered nothing in final third so why would Raya be worried about starting counters when they push forward?
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This 1-0 win means that they can sit back and counter. And believe me they will be dangerous. Can we break this tight defense? Watching this game tonight I have my doubts.
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They will be dangerous yes but they will not be able to dive and use dark arts as much. The ref helped them a bit today

Logic you’re very optimistic. This is an old story repeating itself.
Just doesn’t make sense why Raya or Martinelli played quickly in the closing stages. Where was this urgency in the first half or even up till 75thmin?

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 3 minutes ago
Won't be surprised if jesus is undergoing another surgery
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Could well be. We may have to consider moving him on sooner than later. His injury record is becoming a silly joke.

comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
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comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 minute ago
We've played so negatively for the entire 90 and Raya in the last 10 minutes has been releasing the ball quickly it's just so confusing either play with some tempo or realise that we've shut up shop and play for the whistle.
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You mean the same tactic that helped us beat Liverpool? Porto offered nothing in final third so why would Raya be worried about starting counters when they push forward?
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This 1-0 win means that they can sit back and counter. And believe me they will be dangerous. Can we break this tight defense? Watching this game tonight I have my doubts.
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They will be dangerous yes but they will not be able to dive and use dark arts as much. The ref helped them a bit today
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Why not? Of course the will play the same way. The question is will we have an answer to their antics.

Frist of all we need to be braver and play with a higher pace. They are much better and clever to play the game with that tempo.

Not sure why Jorginho didn’t start? We at least played some forward passes with him. Trossard was so bad.

But that goal is on Martinelli

comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And it changes everything, Raya was crap
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Was he? Not sure he did much wrong in the game and not sure he could have done much about the goal... it was a perfect shot.
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Too far out of goal. The ball went in a downward trajectory. Horrible positioning.
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Possibly but you can't deny the shot was pretty good... had good power and bend on it... not many keepers would save that
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Positioning and time of dive was cr Ap. Basic error tbh, not expected.
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Have you ever been a keeper before? Unless you have not sure you can talk about timing of the dive... Raya has faced 100s of shots I'm sure he knows when to dive. Just accept the shot was a very good and accurate one... if it wasn't he saves it easily

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 minutes ago
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comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 minute ago
We've played so negatively for the entire 90 and Raya in the last 10 minutes has been releasing the ball quickly it's just so confusing either play with some tempo or realise that we've shut up shop and play for the whistle.
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You mean the same tactic that helped us beat Liverpool? Porto offered nothing in final third so why would Raya be worried about starting counters when they push forward?
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This 1-0 win means that they can sit back and counter. And believe me they will be dangerous. Can we break this tight defense? Watching this game tonight I have my doubts.
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They will be dangerous yes but they will not be able to dive and use dark arts as much. The ref helped them a bit today
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Why not? Of course the will play the same way. The question is will we have an answer to their antics.

Frist of all we need to be braver and play with a higher pace. They are much better and clever to play the game with that tempo.
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Because we'll be at home and hopefully a ref with more sense. If that happens their dark arts and diving will have less of an effect therefore making it harder for them to defend against us.

Bit more height and Raya saves that. Shame that's something he will never have.

Said it on day 1 and I'll say it again, he's not a world class shot stopper and never will be, simply doesn't have the reach.

Shot was good but not as brilliant as everyone is making out, there wasn't that much pace on it.

comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
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comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
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comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
And it changes everything, Raya was crap
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Was he? Not sure he did much wrong in the game and not sure he could have done much about the goal... it was a perfect shot.
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Too far out of goal. The ball went in a downward trajectory. Horrible positioning.
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Possibly but you can't deny the shot was pretty good... had good power and bend on it... not many keepers would save that
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Positioning and time of dive was cr Ap. Basic error tbh, not expected.
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Have you ever been a keeper before? Unless you have not sure you can talk about timing of the dive... Raya has faced 100s of shots I'm sure he knows when to dive. Just accept the shot was a very good and accurate one... if it wasn't he saves it easily
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It was a good hit. Cannot blame Raya. Martinelli is the culprit here.

Got to ask why there was no pressure on the ball as well, with any time and space most professionals will at the very least hit the target and in this case find the corner.

City would have put four past that lot.

comment by 50 No longer trusting the process (U1147)
posted 7 minutes ago
Logic you’re very optimistic. This is an old story repeating itself.
Just doesn’t make sense why Raya or Martinelli played quickly in the closing stages. Where was this urgency in the first half or even up till 75thmin?
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Benefit of hindsight here. If we snatched a late win from playing urgently everyone would be praising them now.

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comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 minutes ago
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comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
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comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 minute ago
We've played so negatively for the entire 90 and Raya in the last 10 minutes has been releasing the ball quickly it's just so confusing either play with some tempo or realise that we've shut up shop and play for the whistle.
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You mean the same tactic that helped us beat Liverpool? Porto offered nothing in final third so why would Raya be worried about starting counters when they push forward?
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This 1-0 win means that they can sit back and counter. And believe me they will be dangerous. Can we break this tight defense? Watching this game tonight I have my doubts.
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They will be dangerous yes but they will not be able to dive and use dark arts as much. The ref helped them a bit today
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Why not? Of course the will play the same way. The question is will we have an answer to their antics.

Frist of all we need to be braver and play with a higher pace. They are much better and clever to play the game with that tempo.
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Because we'll be at home and hopefully a ref with more sense. If that happens their dark arts and diving will have less of an effect therefore making it harder for them to defend against us.
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Ref with more sense? Really dont want rely on that.

If we dont manage to get a goal early nerves will kick in.

comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by GunnerGuy (U9900)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by The Logical One™ - destroying the souls of trolls 😏 (U20872)
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comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
And it changes everything, Raya was crap
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Was he? Not sure he did much wrong in the game and not sure he could have done much about the goal... it was a perfect shot.
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Too far out of goal. The ball went in a downward trajectory. Horrible positioning.
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Possibly but you can't deny the shot was pretty good... had good power and bend on it... not many keepers would save that
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Positioning and time of dive was cr Ap. Basic error tbh, not expected.
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Have you ever been a keeper before? Unless you have not sure you can talk about timing of the dive... Raya has faced 100s of shots I'm sure he knows when to dive. Just accept the shot was a very good and accurate one... if it wasn't he saves it easily
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It was a good hit. Cannot blame Raya. Martinelli is the culprit here.
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Agreed

Our corner routine was also pathetic today. No variation whatsoever!

How many fouls did the ref blow for?

Never seen anything like it

comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 33 seconds ago
Our corner routine was also pathetic today. No variation whatsoever!
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No chance our corner routines would have worked with this ref. Even if we scored, the ref would have chalked it of

comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 4 minutes ago
City would have put four past that lot.
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Yet they only put 3 past a far inferior Copenhagen 🤨

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 4 minutes ago
City would have put four past that lot.
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Yet they only put 3 past a far inferior Copenhagen 🤨
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And how do you reckon Copenhagen are inferior?

comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 4 minutes ago
City would have put four past that lot.
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Yet they only put 3 past a far inferior Copenhagen 🤨
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And how do you reckon Copenhagen are inferior?
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Defence attack midfield. How do you think they are superior?

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 4 minutes ago
City would have put four past that lot.
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Yet they only put 3 past a far inferior Copenhagen 🤨
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And how do you reckon Copenhagen are inferior?
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Defence attack midfield. How do you think they are superior?
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Copenhagen offered more in attack against City as compared to Porto today.
They are not a good side; Arteta was timid and over cautious in his tactics and paid for it.
We should still go through.