comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 48 seconds ago
A penalty isn't a reward for the attacking team, they don't have to earn anything. it's a punishment for the defensive team.
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That's just the thing though, I'm finding penalties are becoming more like rewards for the attacking team. The awarding of the pen is often outweighing the punishment for the opponent.
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If we're having a larger conversation about how the rules should be than I'm personally starting to question if penalties should even exist
Just feel like giving the opposition basically the best goal scoring chance we have In football is often too harsh a punishment - you could be on the edge of a crowded penalty area with nowhere to go but if you're tripped up you get the closest thing to a guaranteed goal there is in the sport. Maybe I'm being extreme but I feel like there is a conversation to have there
It was a foul in the box though and under the current rules that means it's a penalty
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Yes exactly. Play that is heading away from goal, or shots that look like going out for throw ins can become penalties due to fouls, which seems unfair.
Then again, if you were to imagine only awarding pens for opportunities on goal being denied, then it's going to be difficult to determine what would be classed as an opportunity on goal or not. VAR would be all over the place with that.
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a problem per se, I just think that when you step back and actually think about penalties they don't really make much sense
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It's a penalty area. I mean I've never known any different but it certainly adds to the game for me.
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Right but if we say that the penalty area was introduced because rule makers felt that fouls that close to goal were denying a goal scoring opportunity and therefore the attacking team should be rewarded with a goal scoring opportunity - I feel like that doesn't actually apply most of the time.
I guess the argument is that the line has to be drawn somewhere and the last thing we need is to add even more subjectivity to the rules, probably best to leave the can of worms alone
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a problem per se, I just think that when you step back and actually think about penalties they don't really make much sense
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It's a penalty area. I mean I've never known any different but it certainly adds to the game for me.
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Right but if we say that the penalty area was introduced because rule makers felt that fouls that close to goal were denying a goal scoring opportunity and therefore the attacking team should be rewarded with a goal scoring opportunity - I feel like that doesn't actually apply most of the time.
I guess the argument is that the line has to be drawn somewhere and the last thing we need is to add even more subjectivity to the rules, probably best to leave the can of worms alone
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It's just a different area if the pitch where you cannot commit a foul, I dont think it goes any deeper than that.
I did use to enjoy those 25 yard one on ones that the MLS had but that is mainly because they were so bad at them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRITqS6WEn0
Yeah facking CL facking facking c*nt of a final ruined that for me. About 3 seconds into the biggest game of our history and Mane goes ‘oh look I literally have nothing on, let me delicately chip it into Sissoko’s armpit’ and the ref goes.
“Ahhh yes that scenario is definitely worth the equivalent of a 75% likely chance of a goal to ruin the spectacle”.
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a problem per se, I just think that when you step back and actually think about penalties they don't really make much sense
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It's a penalty area. I mean I've never known any different but it certainly adds to the game for me.
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Right but if we say that the penalty area was introduced because rule makers felt that fouls that close to goal were denying a goal scoring opportunity and therefore the attacking team should be rewarded with a goal scoring opportunity - I feel like that doesn't actually apply most of the time.
I guess the argument is that the line has to be drawn somewhere and the last thing we need is to add even more subjectivity to the rules, probably best to leave the can of worms alone
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The Lacazette opportunity yesterday being a good example of something that isn't denying a goalscoring opportunity, since Laca facked up his shot already.
Or if Sissoko is through on goal and gets fouled.
Love the dribbling penalties
The fact most pundits say it wasn't pen just highlights their agenda. Most fans know it was a pen. The disconnect is shocking
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
comment by The One (U22189)
posted 1 minute ago
The fact most pundits say it wasn't pen just highlights their agenda. Most fans know it was a pen. The disconnect is shocking
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comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
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No idea actually. Perhaps it has changed.
Is handballing a shot on goal a straight red?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
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No idea actually. Perhaps it has changed.
Is handballing a shot on goal a straight red?
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Not for Liverpool we've won trophies on the back of it.
But yes for everyone else.
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 51 minutes ago
Penalty imo because he kicked Lacazette in the penalty area.
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this is the most painful area to be kicked in I hear
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
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No idea actually. Perhaps it has changed.
Is handballing a shot on goal a straight red?
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Not for Liverpoolwe've won trophies on the back of it.
But yes for everyone else.
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To think how much history could have been rewritten with VAR.
Fergie got out at the right time.
If we'd always had VAR he'd just be called Mr Alex Ferguson.
Yeah it's a pen. I kind of hoped VAR might overturn it seeing as he's kicked the ball away, but you can't complain really
At the time I felt like it was harsh purely because I thought Lacazette's air shot took him into Sanchez's challenge but I see why it's given obviously.
I felt a bit sorry for Sanchez as he had a good game and it'll go down as another mistake. More worrying is that we've given away a number of these kinds of 'lazy' pens recently
I'm not even mad at Sanchez. At least it was a proper attempt at a last minute tackle not just a brainless shove or whatever. If Lacazette hadn't have shanked it he might've blocked the shot
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sorry, but as soon as Sanchez goes off his feet (out of control; reckless) and wipes someone out, he's taking that risk. I understand what he was trying to do in blocking a shot, but that possibility is always there. If Lacazette had simply shielded the ball and turned his back only to be clattered in the same way, nobody even debates it. The fact that Lacazette reaches that position through a skewed mishit is neither here nor there.
I thought Jenas's analysis of that and the Lamela red card were awful last night. Excusing recklessness and a blatant loss of temper when it would actually be better for Spurs in the long run if they were called out.
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If Lacazette controlled it and shielded it and Sanchez went through him, then fair enough. Stonewall. That isnt what happened.
In fact Lacazette had an embarrassing airshot at it and if you look at the bottom link in the OP it is his foot that makes contact with Sanchez's calf which is the first point of contact in the coming together. So while Sanchez is trying to block it and fails, Lacazette is trying to kick it and fails.
To me its just a coming together
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We've seen similar incidents where penalties were also given, Jose Willian kicking Luiz and getting a pen, TAA being on the floor and DCL running into him and getting a pen.
I thought it was a pretty clear pen tbh, I've tried to come at it with my Arsenal hat off because the pundits made such a big deal about it that I thought maybe I was wrong? But the ball was still in play after the shot (lucky) and Sanchez cleared him out with a desperate tackle.
Most Spurs fans have been good about it but the pundits have been surprising in their opinions, I thought the pen was pretty cut and dry and Lamela could have had a few yellows before he even got his first.
Jenas seemed adamant it wasn't a pen, making the point that because he mis-kicked it, it moved his body into Sanchez.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 41 seconds ago
Jenas seemed adamant it wasn't a pen, making the point that because he mis-kicked it, it moved his body into Sanchez.
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Jenas seemed very bitter about it, if you're gonna be biased just come out and own it
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jenas seemed adamant it wasn't a pen, making the point that because he mis-kicked it, it moved his body into Sanchez.
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Yeah it's one of those that's ridiculous and unfortunate but if it's on your player you want a penalty
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Penalty imo because he kicked Lacazette in the penalty area.
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Well technically and factually, Lacazette kicked him first.
If the pathetic rule is 'any contact equals a foul' then they should be checking who made contact first.
Personally, not what i want to see, but also do not want to see the micro-analysis by VAR of incidents, but sadly we do see this every week and are not always convinced with the decision.
I could live with that penalty being given much more easily if it we just the ref making that call on the pitch. But as we now have a VAR supported culture of "any contact = foul" really they should be reviewing it to see who made contact first!
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posted on 15/3/21
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 48 seconds ago
A penalty isn't a reward for the attacking team, they don't have to earn anything. it's a punishment for the defensive team.
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That's just the thing though, I'm finding penalties are becoming more like rewards for the attacking team. The awarding of the pen is often outweighing the punishment for the opponent.
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If we're having a larger conversation about how the rules should be than I'm personally starting to question if penalties should even exist
Just feel like giving the opposition basically the best goal scoring chance we have In football is often too harsh a punishment - you could be on the edge of a crowded penalty area with nowhere to go but if you're tripped up you get the closest thing to a guaranteed goal there is in the sport. Maybe I'm being extreme but I feel like there is a conversation to have there
It was a foul in the box though and under the current rules that means it's a penalty
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Yes exactly. Play that is heading away from goal, or shots that look like going out for throw ins can become penalties due to fouls, which seems unfair.
Then again, if you were to imagine only awarding pens for opportunities on goal being denied, then it's going to be difficult to determine what would be classed as an opportunity on goal or not. VAR would be all over the place with that.
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a problem per se, I just think that when you step back and actually think about penalties they don't really make much sense
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It's a penalty area. I mean I've never known any different but it certainly adds to the game for me.
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Right but if we say that the penalty area was introduced because rule makers felt that fouls that close to goal were denying a goal scoring opportunity and therefore the attacking team should be rewarded with a goal scoring opportunity - I feel like that doesn't actually apply most of the time.
I guess the argument is that the line has to be drawn somewhere and the last thing we need is to add even more subjectivity to the rules, probably best to leave the can of worms alone
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a problem per se, I just think that when you step back and actually think about penalties they don't really make much sense
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It's a penalty area. I mean I've never known any different but it certainly adds to the game for me.
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Right but if we say that the penalty area was introduced because rule makers felt that fouls that close to goal were denying a goal scoring opportunity and therefore the attacking team should be rewarded with a goal scoring opportunity - I feel like that doesn't actually apply most of the time.
I guess the argument is that the line has to be drawn somewhere and the last thing we need is to add even more subjectivity to the rules, probably best to leave the can of worms alone
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It's just a different area if the pitch where you cannot commit a foul, I dont think it goes any deeper than that.
I did use to enjoy those 25 yard one on ones that the MLS had but that is mainly because they were so bad at them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRITqS6WEn0
posted on 15/3/21
Yeah facking CL facking facking c*nt of a final ruined that for me. About 3 seconds into the biggest game of our history and Mane goes ‘oh look I literally have nothing on, let me delicately chip it into Sissoko’s armpit’ and the ref goes.
“Ahhh yes that scenario is definitely worth the equivalent of a 75% likely chance of a goal to ruin the spectacle”.
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a problem per se, I just think that when you step back and actually think about penalties they don't really make much sense
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It's a penalty area. I mean I've never known any different but it certainly adds to the game for me.
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Right but if we say that the penalty area was introduced because rule makers felt that fouls that close to goal were denying a goal scoring opportunity and therefore the attacking team should be rewarded with a goal scoring opportunity - I feel like that doesn't actually apply most of the time.
I guess the argument is that the line has to be drawn somewhere and the last thing we need is to add even more subjectivity to the rules, probably best to leave the can of worms alone
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The Lacazette opportunity yesterday being a good example of something that isn't denying a goalscoring opportunity, since Laca facked up his shot already.
Or if Sissoko is through on goal and gets fouled.
posted on 15/3/21
Love the dribbling penalties
posted on 15/3/21
The fact most pundits say it wasn't pen just highlights their agenda. Most fans know it was a pen. The disconnect is shocking
posted on 15/3/21
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
posted on 15/3/21
comment by The One (U22189)
posted 1 minute ago
The fact most pundits say it wasn't pen just highlights their agenda. Most fans know it was a pen. The disconnect is shocking
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posted on 15/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
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No idea actually. Perhaps it has changed.
Is handballing a shot on goal a straight red?
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
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No idea actually. Perhaps it has changed.
Is handballing a shot on goal a straight red?
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Not for Liverpool we've won trophies on the back of it.
But yes for everyone else.
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 51 minutes ago
Penalty imo because he kicked Lacazette in the penalty area.
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this is the most painful area to be kicked in I hear
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 15 seconds ago
There's a different rule for denying a goal scoring chance by fouling and that's a red card.
As said, to me, it's just an area of the pitch where the defending team absolutely cannot commit a foul but they do get to have a guy who can use his hands as well as his feet.
It doesnt go any deeper than that for me.
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That's the other inconsistent one as far as punishment goes. The red card and the penalty together. Denying a clear chance on goal results in 2 punishments.
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Not any more does it? Thought they had changed that to a yellow or is that just the keeper?
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No idea actually. Perhaps it has changed.
Is handballing a shot on goal a straight red?
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Not for Liverpoolwe've won trophies on the back of it.
But yes for everyone else.
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To think how much history could have been rewritten with VAR.
Fergie got out at the right time.
posted on 15/3/21
If we'd always had VAR he'd just be called Mr Alex Ferguson.
posted on 15/3/21
It was a pen imo
posted on 15/3/21
Yeah it's a pen. I kind of hoped VAR might overturn it seeing as he's kicked the ball away, but you can't complain really
posted on 15/3/21
At the time I felt like it was harsh purely because I thought Lacazette's air shot took him into Sanchez's challenge but I see why it's given obviously.
I felt a bit sorry for Sanchez as he had a good game and it'll go down as another mistake. More worrying is that we've given away a number of these kinds of 'lazy' pens recently
posted on 15/3/21
I'm not even mad at Sanchez. At least it was a proper attempt at a last minute tackle not just a brainless shove or whatever. If Lacazette hadn't have shanked it he might've blocked the shot
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sorry, but as soon as Sanchez goes off his feet (out of control; reckless) and wipes someone out, he's taking that risk. I understand what he was trying to do in blocking a shot, but that possibility is always there. If Lacazette had simply shielded the ball and turned his back only to be clattered in the same way, nobody even debates it. The fact that Lacazette reaches that position through a skewed mishit is neither here nor there.
I thought Jenas's analysis of that and the Lamela red card were awful last night. Excusing recklessness and a blatant loss of temper when it would actually be better for Spurs in the long run if they were called out.
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If Lacazette controlled it and shielded it and Sanchez went through him, then fair enough. Stonewall. That isnt what happened.
In fact Lacazette had an embarrassing airshot at it and if you look at the bottom link in the OP it is his foot that makes contact with Sanchez's calf which is the first point of contact in the coming together. So while Sanchez is trying to block it and fails, Lacazette is trying to kick it and fails.
To me its just a coming together
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We've seen similar incidents where penalties were also given, Jose Willian kicking Luiz and getting a pen, TAA being on the floor and DCL running into him and getting a pen.
I thought it was a pretty clear pen tbh, I've tried to come at it with my Arsenal hat off because the pundits made such a big deal about it that I thought maybe I was wrong? But the ball was still in play after the shot (lucky) and Sanchez cleared him out with a desperate tackle.
Most Spurs fans have been good about it but the pundits have been surprising in their opinions, I thought the pen was pretty cut and dry and Lamela could have had a few yellows before he even got his first.
posted on 15/3/21
Jenas seemed adamant it wasn't a pen, making the point that because he mis-kicked it, it moved his body into Sanchez.
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 41 seconds ago
Jenas seemed adamant it wasn't a pen, making the point that because he mis-kicked it, it moved his body into Sanchez.
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Jenas seemed very bitter about it, if you're gonna be biased just come out and own it
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jenas seemed adamant it wasn't a pen, making the point that because he mis-kicked it, it moved his body into Sanchez.
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Yeah it's one of those that's ridiculous and unfortunate but if it's on your player you want a penalty
posted on 15/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Penalty imo because he kicked Lacazette in the penalty area.
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Well technically and factually, Lacazette kicked him first.
If the pathetic rule is 'any contact equals a foul' then they should be checking who made contact first.
Personally, not what i want to see, but also do not want to see the micro-analysis by VAR of incidents, but sadly we do see this every week and are not always convinced with the decision.
I could live with that penalty being given much more easily if it we just the ref making that call on the pitch. But as we now have a VAR supported culture of "any contact = foul" really they should be reviewing it to see who made contact first!
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