comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Question, do you wrap the Union flag around your cooock?
Next hosepipe ban we can pay off our debt by sending water down south.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 52 minutes ago
Independent advisor if Sturgeon broke the code. In cahoots with the wee Jimmy Krankie woman if she did not break the code. I have never heard of James Hamilton QC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know all of the others personally?
You must have some great stories.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok you’re talking utter piish now and changing your goalposts.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why are folk like our gooner friend so terrified of Scotland being independent?
If we are such a drain on England why fook moan about us leaving.
Fookwits...honestly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Scottish living in London but I'm also British. and don't wan to see the UK broken up for no good reason other than an idealised Scotland.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why are folk like our gooner friend so terrified of Scotland being independent?
If we are such a drain on England why fook moan about us leaving.
Fookwits...honestly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Scottish living in London but I'm also British. and don't wan to see the UK broken up for no good reason other than an idealised Scotland.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn’t a country getting to an ideal situation not a good reason?
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it didn’t mate.
It was a wish list of how they wanted it to be. Unfortunately unless the other party to the transaction simply agrees then it’s not addressed at all.
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t pitch the business and financial gurus in the Scottish government up against those in Westminster and expect them to come remotely close to break even.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
I’m all for an independent Scotland but not under this shower. And no I’m not buying into them being means to an end. Once there they will seize more and more power.
I want someone, fwck it; anyone to answer the very serious questions that still remain with some semblance of a plan and a model based on sensible assumptions instead of the porridge oats hammer thrower.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm afraid we don't like that kind of debate on the Scottish boards. We are famously accurate when it comes to numbers,
Of pounds, anyway, perhaps not titles.
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Question, do you wrap the Union flag around your cooock?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I have it tattooed above my heart.
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm afraid we don't like that kind of debate on the Scottish boards. We are famously accurate when it comes to numbers,
Of pounds, anyway, perhaps not titles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There you go again.
Having bash at the bears because of their weight issues.
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
---
Not the Brexit I voted for.
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
---
Not the Brexit I voted for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I walked into that
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it didn’t mate.
It was a wish list of how they wanted it to be. Unfortunately unless the other party to the transaction simply agrees then it’s not addressed at all.
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t pitch the business and financial gurus in the Scottish government up against those in Westminster and expect them to come remotely close to break even.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean of course they didn’t get to the point it was fully addressed and I agree they set out their position. What more would you have expected them to do at that time? Particularly when the “other party” were completely unwilling to enter into negotiation before the result of the referendum?
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it didn’t mate.
It was a wish list of how they wanted it to be. Unfortunately unless the other party to the transaction simply agrees then it’s not addressed at all.
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t pitch the business and financial gurus in the Scottish government up against those in Westminster and expect them to come remotely close to break even.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean of course they didn’t get to the point it was fully addressed and I agree they set out their position. What more would you have expected them to do at that time? Particularly when the “other party” were completely unwilling to enter into negotiation before the result of the referendum?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s more the fact they ignored many questions and left them unanswered as well as fudge many they tried to in a “it’ll be all right on the night” attitude.
Hence why what was the greatest opportunity for independence being so quickly and easily derailed by a simple fear driven agenda by opposition. It didn’t take much after all.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
---
Not the Brexit I voted for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I walked into that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Murder when that happens 🤣
So I've heard.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
I like when people say that "you need to take your share of the debt".
For some reason they always seem to forget that we'd therefore be entitled to our share of the assets too.
I'm going to Vote No in indyref 2 because we need to leech off England for our own survival. I will also Vote No because Nicola forgot a meeting she had with Salmond.
And the problem with the Barnett formula is that people always seem to forget that a significant amount of money is taken from the pot before it's applied. People seem to think it's split evenly from the get-go, and it really isn't.
And it's always interesting to look at where that money goes (clue - it very rarely goes to projects in the devolved nations).
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 7 minutes ago
I like when people say that "you need to take your share of the debt".
For some reason they always seem to forget that we'd therefore be entitled to our share of the assets too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quite. As said before.
8% of the Falklands, oilfields & fisheries
8% of Gibraltar - eugh
8% of the gold reserves
8% of the antiques in the French embassy
8% of GCHQ
8% of the armed forces resources, land, overseas bases
8% of the crown estates
etc.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why are folk like our gooner friend so terrified of Scotland being independent?
If we are such a drain on England why fook moan about us leaving.
Fookwits...honestly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Scottish living in London but I'm also British. and don't wan to see the UK broken up for no good reason other than an idealised Scotland.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
See tbh I don't think the majority of Scots want to see the UK broken up either? Geographically, culturally, economically it absolutely makes sense to be 'together'.
However, what has turned me is successive governments in WM doing hee-haw of any material significance to address the economic imbalance in the whole of the UK that is the black hole of London and the SE.
Just this week another 500 civil service jobs proposed to relocate from London. We keep getting accused of reliance on public sector jobs! The answer is not to send more - that is just an easy pre-election stunt. Investment in the WHOLE of the UK in infrastructure, company, jobs and skills attraction to stimulate self-sustainable growth.
As London and the SE get even more densely populated each such project costs more and more to fulfil there. Forget it! Fast rail and road from tip to tip of every corner of the land. Rent free private industry. Housing, schools etc. pre-built. Speculate to accumulate. Lots of people want to live here but need to have a sustainable need to do so.
Sign in if you want to comment
The Tories' Premature Ejaculation
Page 9 of 11
7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11
posted on 23/3/21
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Question, do you wrap the Union flag around your cooock?
posted on 23/3/21
Next hosepipe ban we can pay off our debt by sending water down south.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 52 minutes ago
Independent advisor if Sturgeon broke the code. In cahoots with the wee Jimmy Krankie woman if she did not break the code. I have never heard of James Hamilton QC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know all of the others personally?
You must have some great stories.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok you’re talking utter piish now and changing your goalposts.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why are folk like our gooner friend so terrified of Scotland being independent?
If we are such a drain on England why fook moan about us leaving.
Fookwits...honestly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Scottish living in London but I'm also British. and don't wan to see the UK broken up for no good reason other than an idealised Scotland.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why are folk like our gooner friend so terrified of Scotland being independent?
If we are such a drain on England why fook moan about us leaving.
Fookwits...honestly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Scottish living in London but I'm also British. and don't wan to see the UK broken up for no good reason other than an idealised Scotland.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn’t a country getting to an ideal situation not a good reason?
posted on 23/3/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it didn’t mate.
It was a wish list of how they wanted it to be. Unfortunately unless the other party to the transaction simply agrees then it’s not addressed at all.
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t pitch the business and financial gurus in the Scottish government up against those in Westminster and expect them to come remotely close to break even.
posted on 23/3/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/3/21
I’m all for an independent Scotland but not under this shower. And no I’m not buying into them being means to an end. Once there they will seize more and more power.
I want someone, fwck it; anyone to answer the very serious questions that still remain with some semblance of a plan and a model based on sensible assumptions instead of the porridge oats hammer thrower.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm afraid we don't like that kind of debate on the Scottish boards. We are famously accurate when it comes to numbers,
Of pounds, anyway, perhaps not titles.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Question, do you wrap the Union flag around your cooock?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I have it tattooed above my heart.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Horse sheite
Even I’ll call that out as absolute nonsense.
You’ll have the numbers I suppose?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it nonsense. I beg to differ. How else will they pay without raising tax. Plus all the extra things they will have to cove that are currently paid for by the UK as a whole.
It really is an economic pipe dream, the only thing going for them is their Whiskey.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm afraid we don't like that kind of debate on the Scottish boards. We are famously accurate when it comes to numbers,
Of pounds, anyway, perhaps not titles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There you go again.
Having bash at the bears because of their weight issues.
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
posted on 23/3/21
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
---
Not the Brexit I voted for.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
---
Not the Brexit I voted for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I walked into that
posted on 23/3/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it didn’t mate.
It was a wish list of how they wanted it to be. Unfortunately unless the other party to the transaction simply agrees then it’s not addressed at all.
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t pitch the business and financial gurus in the Scottish government up against those in Westminster and expect them to come remotely close to break even.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean of course they didn’t get to the point it was fully addressed and I agree they set out their position. What more would you have expected them to do at that time? Particularly when the “other party” were completely unwilling to enter into negotiation before the result of the referendum?
posted on 23/3/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone pays tax clownshoe not just folk in London.
What a plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are the plank Scotland gets twice the amount of money spent in the rest of the UK.
You can expect rocketing taxes if you are independent just to pay for your poorly performing services, not to mention your share of the National debt. The cost of indie has never been addressed by the SNP, they are a one policy party with no real answers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would gently recommend that you engage in some research on the topics you mention as “never been addressed” isn’t an entirely fair statement to make.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well they haven’t have they?
There is no financial plan, no idea of how to spout up assets and pay off debts built over centuries, no nothing really.
It’s just a desire to be free of Westminster. Nothing wrong with that but let’s not kid on it’s a well tho8ght out strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the SNP white paper back before the last referendum did address the point re share of debt. Without agreement on when the next referendum would be it is understandably difficult to come up with concrete proposals as the situation could be different depending on when such a referendum took place.
To be clear the assertion I was objecting to was that the cost of indie had “never” been addressed. You could quite reasonably say that it hasn’t been addressed to your own personal level of satisfaction, or that it hasn’t been fully addressed, but to suggest it has “never” been addressed is plain wrong, which is why I suggested the poster look into it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it didn’t mate.
It was a wish list of how they wanted it to be. Unfortunately unless the other party to the transaction simply agrees then it’s not addressed at all.
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t pitch the business and financial gurus in the Scottish government up against those in Westminster and expect them to come remotely close to break even.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean of course they didn’t get to the point it was fully addressed and I agree they set out their position. What more would you have expected them to do at that time? Particularly when the “other party” were completely unwilling to enter into negotiation before the result of the referendum?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s more the fact they ignored many questions and left them unanswered as well as fudge many they tried to in a “it’ll be all right on the night” attitude.
Hence why what was the greatest opportunity for independence being so quickly and easily derailed by a simple fear driven agenda by opposition. It didn’t take much after all.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
And it’s kilograms these days; not pounds
---
Not the Brexit I voted for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I walked into that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Murder when that happens 🤣
So I've heard.
posted on 23/3/21
posted on 23/3/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/3/21
I like when people say that "you need to take your share of the debt".
For some reason they always seem to forget that we'd therefore be entitled to our share of the assets too.
posted on 23/3/21
I'm going to Vote No in indyref 2 because we need to leech off England for our own survival. I will also Vote No because Nicola forgot a meeting she had with Salmond.
posted on 23/3/21
And the problem with the Barnett formula is that people always seem to forget that a significant amount of money is taken from the pot before it's applied. People seem to think it's split evenly from the get-go, and it really isn't.
And it's always interesting to look at where that money goes (clue - it very rarely goes to projects in the devolved nations).
posted on 23/3/21
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 7 minutes ago
I like when people say that "you need to take your share of the debt".
For some reason they always seem to forget that we'd therefore be entitled to our share of the assets too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quite. As said before.
8% of the Falklands, oilfields & fisheries
8% of Gibraltar - eugh
8% of the gold reserves
8% of the antiques in the French embassy
8% of GCHQ
8% of the armed forces resources, land, overseas bases
8% of the crown estates
etc.
posted on 23/3/21
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why are folk like our gooner friend so terrified of Scotland being independent?
If we are such a drain on England why fook moan about us leaving.
Fookwits...honestly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Scottish living in London but I'm also British. and don't wan to see the UK broken up for no good reason other than an idealised Scotland.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
See tbh I don't think the majority of Scots want to see the UK broken up either? Geographically, culturally, economically it absolutely makes sense to be 'together'.
However, what has turned me is successive governments in WM doing hee-haw of any material significance to address the economic imbalance in the whole of the UK that is the black hole of London and the SE.
Just this week another 500 civil service jobs proposed to relocate from London. We keep getting accused of reliance on public sector jobs! The answer is not to send more - that is just an easy pre-election stunt. Investment in the WHOLE of the UK in infrastructure, company, jobs and skills attraction to stimulate self-sustainable growth.
As London and the SE get even more densely populated each such project costs more and more to fulfil there. Forget it! Fast rail and road from tip to tip of every corner of the land. Rent free private industry. Housing, schools etc. pre-built. Speculate to accumulate. Lots of people want to live here but need to have a sustainable need to do so.
Page 9 of 11
7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11