comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yup my sympathies are with your everyday fan, your TESCO workers and plumbers, taxi drivers etc.. who probably invest a lot in their club and look forward to games to break up their week and enjoy their football filled weekends.
Football for the elite and rich, sad stuff.
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But it's not!
As been discussed lots of clubs very happy to plod along like club golfers overjoyed at winning £30 in the 2's club every now and again and really having next to no ambition other than survival.
I believe Celtic are capable of joining that elite and fans watching the best players in the world week in, week out. Rangers too. I want that. If the excuse is 'we won't win lots of diddy stuff any more' then we are just a bigger Brora.
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Supposedly Bayern, RB Leipzig (🤣🤣🤣), and Porto.
I've got debt older than Leipzig and they're now being labelled as one of the top teams in Europe according to this nonsense
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yup my sympathies are with your everyday fan, your TESCO workers and plumbers, taxi drivers etc.. who probably invest a lot in their club and look forward to games to break up their week and enjoy their football filled weekends.
Football for the elite and rich, sad stuff.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it's not!
As been discussed lots of clubs very happy to plod along like club golfers overjoyed at winning £30 in the 2's club every now and again and really having next to no ambition other than survival.
I believe Celtic are capable of joining that elite and fans watching the best players in the world week in, week out. Rangers too. I want that. If the excuse is 'we won't win lots of diddy stuff any more' then we are just a bigger Brora.
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The argument is that it'll be the final nail in the victim of Scottish football.
No more money for grassroots football.
No more national side.. the lines of Andy Robertson would never happen again as the smaller Scottish sides will all have folded.
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 23 seconds ago
Supposedly Bayern, RB Leipzig (🤣🤣🤣), and Porto.
I've got debt older than Leipzig and they're now being labelled as one of the top teams in Europe according to this nonsense
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They are.
2nd in Bundesliga - that's pretty decent, no?
Totally admire what RB have done in football. Vision and execution in so many aspects.
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yup my sympathies are with your everyday fan, your TESCO workers and plumbers, taxi drivers etc.. who probably invest a lot in their club and look forward to games to break up their week and enjoy their football filled weekends.
Football for the elite and rich, sad stuff.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it's not!
As been discussed lots of clubs very happy to plod along like club golfers overjoyed at winning £30 in the 2's club every now and again and really having next to no ambition other than survival.
I believe Celtic are capable of joining that elite and fans watching the best players in the world week in, week out. Rangers too. I want that. If the excuse is 'we won't win lots of diddy stuff any more' then we are just a bigger Brora.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument is that it'll be the final nail in the victim of Scottish football.
No more money for grassroots football.
No more national side.. the lines of Andy Robertson would never happen again as the smaller Scottish sides will all have folded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, we've discussed this many times. You could argue the same for our own club being nowhere without Arsenal paying £25m for KT etc.
It is the failings of not commercialising enough that is the threat to existence.
Or alternatively over commercialisation which has led to 12pm kickoffs, massive gaps in equality, under investment in grassroots football as wages eat up 90% of income etc etc.
Proof that greed is rarely good.
Trickle down economics hasn't worked for 40 years and these clubs are busy kidding on that it'll be different this time
We're living in a second gilded age which monopolies across our economy.. unaccountable monopolies who have no interest in competition and wish to manipulate markets to suit themselves.. at the expense of everyone else.
Entire industries need more regulation...it's about time international governments grew a set and started tackling this issue head on.
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 56 seconds ago
Or alternatively over commercialisation which has led to 12pm kickoffs, massive gaps in equality, under investment in grassroots football as wages eat up 90% of income etc etc.
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You'll be raging at Austin then - only played one MLS game and have a 15,000 waitlist for season tickets already!
College soccer over there has VAR when there's maybe only a few hundred watching in the ground and a few thousand online. How in fck? That's grassroots, right?
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
Proof that greed is rarely good.
Trickle down economics hasn't worked for 40 years and these clubs are busy kidding on that it'll be different this time
We're living in a second gilded age which monopolies across our economy.. unaccountable monopolies who have no interest in competition and wish to manipulate markets to suit themselves.. at the expense of everyone else.
Entire industries need more regulation...it's about time international governments grew a set and started tackling this issue head on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, you did say you were going to vote communist, er, I mean green
did bayern not rule themselves out?
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 17 seconds ago
did bayern not rule themselves out?
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I think Bayern have been bitten before and are playing a foot in both camps? They see the other member owned clubs teetering on the brink of insolvency but are smart enough to be cautious?
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I'm all for Capitalism but it has to be regulated.
This "free markets" nonsense is just that. You absolutely need balances and checks otherwise you end up with 40 years of pure greed, the widest ever wealth gap, poverty on the rise, rampant global warming etc.
Our Governments are spineless and often times complicit.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 17 seconds ago
did bayern not rule themselves out?
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I think Bayern have been bitten before and are playing a foot in both camps? They see the other member owned clubs teetering on the brink of insolvency but are smart enough to be cautious?
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Aye I feel they're on the fence. Probably waiting to see the reaction knowing how football is perceived in Germany with the fan owned structure, and it still being more of a working class sport there than any other big nation in Europe.
I suspect they knew this news would go down like a lead balloon and will use it for negotiating leverage against either the Super League or UEFA when both come calling. With the SL they could demand a higher cut, and with UEFA the same and more as one of the few mega clubs still participating in their competitions.
Bayern is more complicated because they need fan agreement.
United are leading this, they have just stepped down from the ECA and UEFA. It's happening, so i hope UEFA and FIFA ban them and their players from competitions.
If we let sporting merit die, it's over.
Apparently Florez is a main driver of this with Levy his lapdog.
The Juve Chief Exec too well just stood down as exec of the ECA.
And of course Joel Glazer.
These 12 clubs have effectively chosen to go to war with the rest of European football.
seedings are just as sickening to me tbh.
fourth place teams get a free pass to the champions league while champions need to jump through hoops.
i'd be more interested if it was everyone at the start line and see you at the finish.
The only seeds should be 1-8, based on th previous year's performances.
Everything else should be a free-for-all, include NV teams from the same country playing each other.
Anything else is just a fix that has led us to this predicament.
How many times have we played Barca, Benfica etc due to the fact that by the time we get drawn out of the bowl, we've only got the option of a couple of groups to go in to.. Due to the ridiculous rules/stipulations that are in place.
UEFA humoured these clubs for too long to the detriment of the game and every other team/league. They are now reading what they've sown so I have little to no sympathy for them.
It’s just another form of bigger clubs ensuring there are no potential upsets.
Chelsea v Arsenal 4 times a year will have the same affect on their fans as us playing in Scotland. The novelty wears off.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 minutes ago
It’s just another form of bigger clubs ensuring there are no potential upsets.
Chelsea v Arsenal 4 times a year will have the same affect on their fans as us playing in Scotland. The novelty wears off.
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How many City fans will be travelling to Milan to play AC on a mild Wednesday night?
Atmosphere will be schite.
Saw this on Twitter..
AC Milan:
No league title since 2011.
Inter:
No league title since 2010.
Juventus:
4th in Serie A.
Atletico:
No league title since 2014.
Arsenal:
No league title since 2004.
Chelsea:
5th in the PL.
Man Utd:
No league title since 2013.
Spurs:
😂
Super League? Embarrassing.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 39 minutes ago
Mourinho gone
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Wonder how long before Rodgers goes there then
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posted on 19/4/21
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yup my sympathies are with your everyday fan, your TESCO workers and plumbers, taxi drivers etc.. who probably invest a lot in their club and look forward to games to break up their week and enjoy their football filled weekends.
Football for the elite and rich, sad stuff.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it's not!
As been discussed lots of clubs very happy to plod along like club golfers overjoyed at winning £30 in the 2's club every now and again and really having next to no ambition other than survival.
I believe Celtic are capable of joining that elite and fans watching the best players in the world week in, week out. Rangers too. I want that. If the excuse is 'we won't win lots of diddy stuff any more' then we are just a bigger Brora.
posted on 19/4/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 19/4/21
Supposedly Bayern, RB Leipzig (🤣🤣🤣), and Porto.
I've got debt older than Leipzig and they're now being labelled as one of the top teams in Europe according to this nonsense
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yup my sympathies are with your everyday fan, your TESCO workers and plumbers, taxi drivers etc.. who probably invest a lot in their club and look forward to games to break up their week and enjoy their football filled weekends.
Football for the elite and rich, sad stuff.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it's not!
As been discussed lots of clubs very happy to plod along like club golfers overjoyed at winning £30 in the 2's club every now and again and really having next to no ambition other than survival.
I believe Celtic are capable of joining that elite and fans watching the best players in the world week in, week out. Rangers too. I want that. If the excuse is 'we won't win lots of diddy stuff any more' then we are just a bigger Brora.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument is that it'll be the final nail in the victim of Scottish football.
No more money for grassroots football.
No more national side.. the lines of Andy Robertson would never happen again as the smaller Scottish sides will all have folded.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 23 seconds ago
Supposedly Bayern, RB Leipzig (🤣🤣🤣), and Porto.
I've got debt older than Leipzig and they're now being labelled as one of the top teams in Europe according to this nonsense
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are.
2nd in Bundesliga - that's pretty decent, no?
Totally admire what RB have done in football. Vision and execution in so many aspects.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yup my sympathies are with your everyday fan, your TESCO workers and plumbers, taxi drivers etc.. who probably invest a lot in their club and look forward to games to break up their week and enjoy their football filled weekends.
Football for the elite and rich, sad stuff.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it's not!
As been discussed lots of clubs very happy to plod along like club golfers overjoyed at winning £30 in the 2's club every now and again and really having next to no ambition other than survival.
I believe Celtic are capable of joining that elite and fans watching the best players in the world week in, week out. Rangers too. I want that. If the excuse is 'we won't win lots of diddy stuff any more' then we are just a bigger Brora.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument is that it'll be the final nail in the victim of Scottish football.
No more money for grassroots football.
No more national side.. the lines of Andy Robertson would never happen again as the smaller Scottish sides will all have folded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, we've discussed this many times. You could argue the same for our own club being nowhere without Arsenal paying £25m for KT etc.
It is the failings of not commercialising enough that is the threat to existence.
posted on 19/4/21
Or alternatively over commercialisation which has led to 12pm kickoffs, massive gaps in equality, under investment in grassroots football as wages eat up 90% of income etc etc.
posted on 19/4/21
Proof that greed is rarely good.
Trickle down economics hasn't worked for 40 years and these clubs are busy kidding on that it'll be different this time
We're living in a second gilded age which monopolies across our economy.. unaccountable monopolies who have no interest in competition and wish to manipulate markets to suit themselves.. at the expense of everyone else.
Entire industries need more regulation...it's about time international governments grew a set and started tackling this issue head on.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 56 seconds ago
Or alternatively over commercialisation which has led to 12pm kickoffs, massive gaps in equality, under investment in grassroots football as wages eat up 90% of income etc etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You'll be raging at Austin then - only played one MLS game and have a 15,000 waitlist for season tickets already!
College soccer over there has VAR when there's maybe only a few hundred watching in the ground and a few thousand online. How in fck? That's grassroots, right?
posted on 19/4/21
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
Proof that greed is rarely good.
Trickle down economics hasn't worked for 40 years and these clubs are busy kidding on that it'll be different this time
We're living in a second gilded age which monopolies across our economy.. unaccountable monopolies who have no interest in competition and wish to manipulate markets to suit themselves.. at the expense of everyone else.
Entire industries need more regulation...it's about time international governments grew a set and started tackling this issue head on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, you did say you were going to vote communist, er, I mean green
posted on 19/4/21
did bayern not rule themselves out?
posted on 19/4/21
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 17 seconds ago
did bayern not rule themselves out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Bayern have been bitten before and are playing a foot in both camps? They see the other member owned clubs teetering on the brink of insolvency but are smart enough to be cautious?
posted on 19/4/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 19/4/21
I'm all for Capitalism but it has to be regulated.
This "free markets" nonsense is just that. You absolutely need balances and checks otherwise you end up with 40 years of pure greed, the widest ever wealth gap, poverty on the rise, rampant global warming etc.
Our Governments are spineless and often times complicit.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 17 seconds ago
did bayern not rule themselves out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Bayern have been bitten before and are playing a foot in both camps? They see the other member owned clubs teetering on the brink of insolvency but are smart enough to be cautious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aye I feel they're on the fence. Probably waiting to see the reaction knowing how football is perceived in Germany with the fan owned structure, and it still being more of a working class sport there than any other big nation in Europe.
I suspect they knew this news would go down like a lead balloon and will use it for negotiating leverage against either the Super League or UEFA when both come calling. With the SL they could demand a higher cut, and with UEFA the same and more as one of the few mega clubs still participating in their competitions.
posted on 19/4/21
Bayern is more complicated because they need fan agreement.
United are leading this, they have just stepped down from the ECA and UEFA. It's happening, so i hope UEFA and FIFA ban them and their players from competitions.
If we let sporting merit die, it's over.
posted on 19/4/21
Apparently Florez is a main driver of this with Levy his lapdog.
The Juve Chief Exec too well just stood down as exec of the ECA.
And of course Joel Glazer.
These 12 clubs have effectively chosen to go to war with the rest of European football.
posted on 19/4/21
seedings are just as sickening to me tbh.
fourth place teams get a free pass to the champions league while champions need to jump through hoops.
i'd be more interested if it was everyone at the start line and see you at the finish.
posted on 19/4/21
The only seeds should be 1-8, based on th previous year's performances.
Everything else should be a free-for-all, include NV teams from the same country playing each other.
Anything else is just a fix that has led us to this predicament.
How many times have we played Barca, Benfica etc due to the fact that by the time we get drawn out of the bowl, we've only got the option of a couple of groups to go in to.. Due to the ridiculous rules/stipulations that are in place.
UEFA humoured these clubs for too long to the detriment of the game and every other team/league. They are now reading what they've sown so I have little to no sympathy for them.
posted on 19/4/21
It’s just another form of bigger clubs ensuring there are no potential upsets.
Chelsea v Arsenal 4 times a year will have the same affect on their fans as us playing in Scotland. The novelty wears off.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 minutes ago
It’s just another form of bigger clubs ensuring there are no potential upsets.
Chelsea v Arsenal 4 times a year will have the same affect on their fans as us playing in Scotland. The novelty wears off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many City fans will be travelling to Milan to play AC on a mild Wednesday night?
Atmosphere will be schite.
posted on 19/4/21
Mourinho gone
posted on 19/4/21
Saw this on Twitter..
AC Milan:
No league title since 2011.
Inter:
No league title since 2010.
Juventus:
4th in Serie A.
Atletico:
No league title since 2014.
Arsenal:
No league title since 2004.
Chelsea:
5th in the PL.
Man Utd:
No league title since 2013.
Spurs:
😂
Super League? Embarrassing.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 39 minutes ago
Mourinho gone
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Wonder how long before Rodgers goes there then
posted on 19/4/21
Mourinho to Celtic?
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