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comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 7 seconds ago
Yep that's how I see it Ginger. And the other one below me who is 93 and still with us has been living like this a year now. She knows she doesn't have long left, as she says to me she goes to bed each night not knowing if she will wake up and gets up each day not knowing if she will see the day out by this stage.

She's one of the biggest anti lockdown voices I've heard and it's nothing to do with conspiracies or social media. She just wants to spend her last days without living like a prisoner in her flat.
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Absolute disgrace. I hope one day these freaks of lockdown maniacs masquerading as care home managers are brought to task for the manner in which they have “interpreted” the guidelines.

They would have been better placed on a machine gun tower in Stalag Luft 13.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 39 seconds ago
i don't agree with future lockdowns based on whats happening now smid.

I agreed with the initial lockdowns and i hate the opinion that "well it's only old people"

it's an absolute b@wbag of an opinion which lacks compassion, it's a chat i'm tired of having on here tbh because it's a difficult opinion to change.

end the lockdowns, let the world start of move on now, but be more proactive in keeping what they consider to be dangerous strains out.
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I get you mate and not suggesting older people are less important.

However, I'll raise you this one. My 2 downstairs neighbours are in their 90s. One of them passed away last year, non COVID related.

I spoke to her daughter not long after and she was devastated that her Mum's last 6 months in the World were spent in isolation in her flat, unable to see anyone. They had planned a holiday in the summer for her, her daughter and granddaughter which was obviously cancelled - they never ended up getting it.

As her daughter told me her Mum had survived a war, raised kids, survived cancer and got over being widowed. She had lived through rations, poverty and all that 90 years in the World gives you. Only to spend her last 6 months locked in a flat on her own waiting the time out, unable to see anyone before she left the World.

It's the same for those in care homes. Is this really a level of protection anyone would want?
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They were never asked. They were instructed and then legally enforced into it.

Absolute and utter disgrace. Inhumane
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I'll take exception on the care home tbh

My uncle lived on his own in sheltered housing. In a wheelchair (MS as he is only early 60's) and his life was dictated by when home care could get to him in the morning to get him out of bed and then whenever they turned up at night he went to bed. Life in a chair on his own.

He took a bad turn health wise a few years back which led to him moving into a care home. This was the best thing for him. Yes he has not seen family much during lockdown but has been surrounded by friends in the care home, looked after by staff etc and they have manged to sort some form of visiting.

Being in a care home was by far and away the best thing for him during lockdown

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Hope for the fatty bears yet.

Call Sign great, and pleased to see things have worked out for you.

However there are a number of people who see it differently which was the reason for the legal challenge to the Health Secretary last year by families of those in care homes. For your uncle and others who have been kept going that's brilliant, but there will be families who never got to see family members again who won't get that back.

comment by Call Sign: #55 Predictor Titles (U3627)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 39 seconds ago
i don't agree with future lockdowns based on whats happening now smid.

I agreed with the initial lockdowns and i hate the opinion that "well it's only old people"

it's an absolute b@wbag of an opinion which lacks compassion, it's a chat i'm tired of having on here tbh because it's a difficult opinion to change.

end the lockdowns, let the world start of move on now, but be more proactive in keeping what they consider to be dangerous strains out.
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I get you mate and not suggesting older people are less important.

However, I'll raise you this one. My 2 downstairs neighbours are in their 90s. One of them passed away last year, non COVID related.

I spoke to her daughter not long after and she was devastated that her Mum's last 6 months in the World were spent in isolation in her flat, unable to see anyone. They had planned a holiday in the summer for her, her daughter and granddaughter which was obviously cancelled - they never ended up getting it.

As her daughter told me her Mum had survived a war, raised kids, survived cancer and got over being widowed. She had lived through rations, poverty and all that 90 years in the World gives you. Only to spend her last 6 months locked in a flat on her own waiting the time out, unable to see anyone before she left the World.

It's the same for those in care homes. Is this really a level of protection anyone would want?
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They were never asked. They were instructed and then legally enforced into it.

Absolute and utter disgrace. Inhumane
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I'll take exception on the care home tbh

My uncle lived on his own in sheltered housing. In a wheelchair (MS as he is only early 60's) and his life was dictated by when home care could get to him in the morning to get him out of bed and then whenever they turned up at night he went to bed. Life in a chair on his own.

He took a bad turn health wise a few years back which led to him moving into a care home. This was the best thing for him. Yes he has not seen family much during lockdown but has been surrounded by friends in the care home, looked after by staff etc and they have manged to sort some form of visiting.

Being in a care home was by far and away the best thing for him during lockdown
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Hmmm. You’re confusing my views on how they have behaved as an industry during lockdown with the experience and benefits they are paid to provide.

What your uncle experienced as a benefit was a basic right. And one that was paid for. As for “not seeing family much” I’ll hazard a guess you mean he didn’t really see any family at all.

those are the stories i hate smid not being able to see family, you see it all the time on social media, people visiting their gran at a care home from the window outside just to say hi.

i hate the idea of anyone having to suffer that alone, i saw something on tv a while back and it was an old guy in hospital with covid saying he just wanted to see his wife as her missed her, then they go on to tell you he died a few days later without seeing her again. Just heart wrenching stuff.

it was bad with lockdowns and i dread to think how bad it would have got without them. That said, they are vaccinated now and imo have done their bit for long enough, people need to be able to visit. People need people again.

Isolation is terrible for mental health, the knock on effect for kids i'm hoping won't be too bad but it's a well known precursor for depression, self harm and suicidal ideation later in life.

I've mentioned it on here plenty, gran who lives up north not seeing any family, had cancer (lump removed in the last few weeks), mum who is 60 and working in a care home while younger ones phoned in sick at the start due to fear of the virus, a daughter with bronchiolitis who coughs non stop and needs 2 inhalers.

i was fine with protecting them, and anyone else who needed it. i've always been fine about it and even if i didn't have those things to worry about i would still have been fine with it.

The goalposts have moved now as call sign says, the momentum has swung the other way, its time to move on.

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 3 seconds ago
those are the stories i hate smidnot being able to see family, you see it all the time on social media, people visiting their gran at a care home from the window outside just to say hi.

i hate the idea of anyone having to suffer that alone, i saw something on tv a while back and it was an old guy in hospital with covid saying he just wanted to see his wife as her missed her, then they go on to tell you he died a few days later without seeing her again. Just heart wrenching stuff.

it was bad with lockdowns and i dread to think how bad it would have got without them. That said, they are vaccinated now and imo have done their bit for long enough, people need to be able to visit. People need people again.

Isolation is terrible for mental health, the knock on effect for kids i'm hoping won't be too bad but it's a well known precursor for depression, self harm and suicidal ideation later in life.

I've mentioned it on here plenty, gran who lives up north not seeing any family, had cancer (lump removed in the last few weeks), mum who is 60 and working in a care home while younger ones phoned in sick at the start due to fear of the virus, a daughter with bronchiolitis who coughs non stop and needs 2 inhalers.

i was fine with protecting them, and anyone else who needed it. i've always been fine about it and even if i didn't have those things to worry about i would still have been fine with it.

The goalposts have moved now as call sign says, the momentum has swung the other way, its time to move on.


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We have an accord

i tell you what, praise be to technology.

imagine this happened in the 90's, couldn't work from home, video call, kids couldn't play with their friends online, couldn't order anything online and have it to your door the next day.

Apps and social media got us through this btw

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These long long articles really do grow arms and legs.

I think it’s important to summarize what’s been established already, for the causal reader:

The bears are all bigots and thugs and couldn’t handle their drink celebrating their phony “55”.

Ginger wants to see the elderly out of the picture, and the young in workhouses/cleaning chimneys.

Russel Brand is a total cvnt.

Jimi Hendrix is over-rated.

There.

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 41 seconds ago
i tell you what, praise be to technology.

imagine this happened in the 90's, couldn't work from home, video call, kids couldn't play with their friends online, couldn't order anything online and have it to your door the next day.

Apps and social media got us through this btw
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In the 90’s mate we’d have just likely worked through it and let it run its course.

No option really 30 years ago.

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comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 38 seconds ago
These long long articles really do grow arms and legs.

I think it’s important to summarize what’s been established already, for the causal reader:

The bears are all bigots and thugs and couldn’t handle their drink celebrating their phony “55”.

Ginger wants to see the elderly out of the picture, and the young in workhouses/cleaning chimneys.

Russel Brand is a total cvnt.

Jimi Hendrix is over-rated.

There.
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I’d be content with teachers doing a days graft to be honest.

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 38 seconds ago
These long long articles really do grow arms and legs.

I think it’s important to summarize what’s been established already, for the causal reader:

The bears are all bigots and thugs and couldn’t handle their drink celebrating their phony “55”.

Ginger wants to see the elderly out of the picture, and the young in workhouses/cleaning chimneys.

Russel Brand is a total cvnt.

Jimi Hendrix is over-rated.

There.
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I’d be content with teachers doing a days graft to be honest.


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Starting any minute now actually.

Probably.

Here you go. Put some of your profiteering gains to good use an throw Gary a couple of quid.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/get-gary-back-up-the-ladders?

utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 41 seconds ago
i tell you what, praise be to technology.

imagine this happened in the 90's, couldn't work from home, video call, kids couldn't play with their friends online, couldn't order anything online and have it to your door the next day.

Apps and social media got us through this btw
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In the 90’s mate we’d have just likely worked through it and let it run its course.

No option really 30 years ago.
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i think we would have had to.

BT would have been loving it btw, phone bills through the roof

We’re now supposed to close off a country the minute we hear of a new variant?

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Vietnam closed their country off the minute they heard of the first variant 'cos they got severely affected by SARS before.

Yoda voice:

'learned a lesson they did'

i've been staying at my parents the last few weeks and my dad says i have the cooshty number for a job.

i work hard dammit.

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comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 38 seconds ago
These long long articles really do grow arms and legs.

I think it’s important to summarize what’s been established already, for the causal reader:

The bears are all bigots and thugs and couldn’t handle their drink celebrating their phony “55”.

Ginger wants to see the elderly out of the picture, and the young in workhouses/cleaning chimneys.

Russel Brand is a total cvnt.

Jimi Hendrix is over-rated.

There.
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I’d be content with teachers doing a days graft to be honest.


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Starting any minute now actually.

Probably.

Here you go. Put some of your profiteering gains to good use an throw Gary a couple of quid.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/get-gary-back-up-the-ladders?

utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet
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Can we put snakes half way up and just before he gets to the top?

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 4 seconds ago
i've been staying at my parents the last few weeks and my dad says i have the cooshty number for a job.

i work hard dammit.
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Tell him you get paid for what you know and not what you do.

Good enough to qualify for the Algarve

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re now supposed to close off a country the minute we hear of a new variant?

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Vietnam closed their country off the minute they heard of the first variant 'cos they got severely affected by SARS before.

Yoda voice:

'learned a lesson they did'
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Did they?

Everyone should have followed Vietnam