I don’t think he played for penalties but I said at the start that the formation was too negative. Great in the first half but as soon as Italy got momentum it was going to be hard to come back. Needed a positive change much earlier. Even Sancho and Rashford - one should have come on ten minutes earlier, not just for penalties.
Gareth Southgate...
More like Gareth Outgate.
Why would you play for penalties when you are 1 up?
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 0 seconds ago
Why would you play for penalties when you are 1 up?
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I know right đš
Sat back as soon as we scored. Awful tactics from a mediocre manager.
Far too negative.
The second half was made for Grealish. Break the play up and stop Italy from gaining any flow or momentum.
Like with Denmark he would wait and see what happens instead of being bold and forcing the issue
He's an idiot. Cost you the tournament.
Who do you get though...assuming he's English.
Brendan Rodgers for me...that would be good
Complete bottler
Scored after 2 mins, Italy were there for the taking
So he decides to sit back and invite them on to score
Absolute shambles of tactics
GET RID OF THE CLOWN
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 seconds ago
Sat back as soon as we scored. Awful tactics from a mediocre manager.
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We were “sitting back” with the formation/starting XI. That was the problem. We were good enough in the first half to grab a second.
Rashford, kid has had a pants end to the season and now this as well. I think he’ll get over it though hopefully
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
Awful manager.
Needs to go, but for some reason is heralded as a hero.
Yep
Thought he could hold off Italy for 88 mins. What a fool.
But fair play getting to the final was an achievement for England. I predicted we wouldnt get out of the group.
Unfair of Rash and Sancho to be expected to come on and win the cup for England in the shootout without getting much game time. Other regulars should have stepped up.
Anyway. Euros done. Back to club football.
I hate that the default when playing against any half way decent team isn't, right, we have 7 or 8 of the best attackers in world football, lets get at them.
It's how do I get as much defence on the pitch as physically possible. Such a negative manager throwing away the talent that we have.
It was obvious from the first minute of the second half it wasn't working, and it took until they scored to change anything.
i didn't watch the match but southgate bottled it England loses again
Southgate is still the best Engliah manager since Sir alf.
He could still win the WC next year, too.
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
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Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
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Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
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Give up football mate if you think them two were good. It was mens Vs boys in midfield.
Jesus Christ what on earth did you watch? đ
Bores the @rse Off me just looking at him.
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 10 seconds ago
Southgate is still the best Engliah manager since Sir alf.
He could still win the WC next year, too.
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Doubtful. England had every advantage and still didn’t win a home tournament. Unless Southgate starts to trust his attacking players then when the real pressure is on his side will just rinse repeat like today.
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 3 seconds ago
Southgate is still the best Engliah manager since Sir alf.
He could still win the WC next year, too.
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He needs to change formation and find a quality midfield player first.
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comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
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Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
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Give up football mate if you think them two were good. It was mens Vs boys in midfield.
Jesus Christ what on earth did you watch? đ
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First half they were good, lots of space because Shaw & Trippier were able to get forward a lot. Second half, almost none existent because we were penned back & had the FBs playing flat with the CBs.
Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
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oh man, Grealish not starting ahead of Mount, just don't understand Southgate
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posted on 11/7/21
I don’t think he played for penalties but I said at the start that the formation was too negative. Great in the first half but as soon as Italy got momentum it was going to be hard to come back. Needed a positive change much earlier. Even Sancho and Rashford - one should have come on ten minutes earlier, not just for penalties.
posted on 11/7/21
Gareth Southgate...
More like Gareth Outgate.
posted on 11/7/21
Why would you play for penalties when you are 1 up?
posted on 11/7/21
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 0 seconds ago
Why would you play for penalties when you are 1 up?
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I know right đš
posted on 11/7/21
Sat back as soon as we scored. Awful tactics from a mediocre manager.
posted on 11/7/21
Far too negative.
The second half was made for Grealish. Break the play up and stop Italy from gaining any flow or momentum.
Like with Denmark he would wait and see what happens instead of being bold and forcing the issue
posted on 11/7/21
He's an idiot. Cost you the tournament.
Who do you get though...assuming he's English.
Brendan Rodgers for me...that would be good
posted on 11/7/21
Complete bottler
Scored after 2 mins, Italy were there for the taking
So he decides to sit back and invite them on to score
Absolute shambles of tactics
GET RID OF THE CLOWN
posted on 11/7/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 49 seconds ago
Sat back as soon as we scored. Awful tactics from a mediocre manager.
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We were “sitting back” with the formation/starting XI. That was the problem. We were good enough in the first half to grab a second.
posted on 11/7/21
Rashford, kid has had a pants end to the season and now this as well. I think he’ll get over it though hopefully
posted on 11/7/21
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
posted on 11/7/21
Awful manager.
Needs to go, but for some reason is heralded as a hero.
posted on 11/7/21
Yep
Thought he could hold off Italy for 88 mins. What a fool.
But fair play getting to the final was an achievement for England. I predicted we wouldnt get out of the group.
Unfair of Rash and Sancho to be expected to come on and win the cup for England in the shootout without getting much game time. Other regulars should have stepped up.
Anyway. Euros done. Back to club football.
posted on 11/7/21
I hate that the default when playing against any half way decent team isn't, right, we have 7 or 8 of the best attackers in world football, lets get at them.
It's how do I get as much defence on the pitch as physically possible. Such a negative manager throwing away the talent that we have.
It was obvious from the first minute of the second half it wasn't working, and it took until they scored to change anything.
posted on 11/7/21
i didn't watch the match but southgate bottled it England loses again
posted on 11/7/21
Southgate is still the best Engliah manager since Sir alf.
He could still win the WC next year, too.
posted on 11/7/21
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
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Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
posted on 11/7/21
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
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Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
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Give up football mate if you think them two were good. It was mens Vs boys in midfield.
Jesus Christ what on earth did you watch? đ
posted on 11/7/21
Bores the @rse Off me just looking at him.
posted on 11/7/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 10 seconds ago
Southgate is still the best Engliah manager since Sir alf.
He could still win the WC next year, too.
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Doubtful. England had every advantage and still didn’t win a home tournament. Unless Southgate starts to trust his attacking players then when the real pressure is on his side will just rinse repeat like today.
posted on 11/7/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 3 seconds ago
Southgate is still the best Engliah manager since Sir alf.
He could still win the WC next year, too.
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He needs to change formation and find a quality midfield player first.
posted on 11/7/21
Rice was excellent.
posted on 11/7/21
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posted on 11/7/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's had two of the easiest runs to the final in the world cup and now in the euro's, the latter of which he had a huge home advantage with very little travel.
The only tricky game was against Germany but they are crap these days.
In the pressure matches against good teams he doesn't have the tactical edge.
Beating the likes of Panama, Ukraine and Denmark aren't good enough. Need to win the big games.
Don't get me wrong, he deserves praise but we always fall short for a reason. We were parking the bus for most of the game and still have cloggers like Rice and Phillips in midfield.
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Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
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Give up football mate if you think them two were good. It was mens Vs boys in midfield.
Jesus Christ what on earth did you watch? đ
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First half they were good, lots of space because Shaw & Trippier were able to get forward a lot. Second half, almost none existent because we were penned back & had the FBs playing flat with the CBs.
posted on 11/7/21
Harsh on Rice and Phillips, as both were very good tonight and not the problem at all. We needed to bring on another attacker for Mount much earlier than we did. And we needed not to bottle penalties again. That’s all.
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oh man, Grealish not starting ahead of Mount, just don't understand Southgate
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