comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
Absolute facking ballocks.
England win the shootout and people would rightly be talking about him tactically more than matching up against a superior Italy side.
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Well, if they were, that would be generous. I’m not criticising Southgate but I say he got it wrong tonight. With the starting XI, in the second half and in the second half of extra time. But he’s been brilliant overall and no real complaints from me.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolute facking ballocks.
England win the shootout and people would rightly be talking about him tactically more than matching up against a superior Italy side.
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this is social media 10 mins after england get beat. What do you expect to read.
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolute facking ballocks.
England win the shootout and people would rightly be talking about him tactically more than matching up against a superior Italy side.
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this is social media 10 mins after england get beat. What do you expect to read.
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If you look back far enough, it's not the first time these accusations have been levied against him...
Southgate didn't lose because he didn't play Grealish or Sancho or whichever player is flavour of the month.
Set up was fine and caused Italy problems and got a goal up. Issue was the second half- whether that was mentality or his orders is another question.
Southgate had a mare on the penalties. I don't care if you're the best pen taker in the world, if you've barely kicked a ball all tournament you're gonna struggle with the pressure. And then to get a 19yr old to take the 5th one
Southgate is praised by lots of pundits on the Beeb, not much criticism on the subs and letting Saka take the 5th.
Media already talking about the world cup
He's really reluctant to take off Sterling and Mount, and so doesn't bring on those game changing players—until too late.
The main issue tonight was Southgate's failure to change things when the tide was clearly in Italy's favour. 10 minutes into the second half, Italy were getting the ball into their midfield much easier and getting players on the ball between the lines. They were starting to turn the screw.
We needed to change the shape there and then but he decided to stick and they then went on to equalise. Once we switched formation we evened the game back up again, but a more proactive approach might have prevented their goal.
The other issue is that England's biggest strength is the depth and quality of the attacking options on the bench. Lots of game-changers who were introduced too late to make any real impact.
Mount wasn't at the races (again), Sterling not at his best tonight and although I like Saka, I think his performances have been overstated. Sancho had a better game against Ukraine than Saka had against anyone else and Grealish has looked very lively despite largely playing cameo roles in harder moments of the games.
Southgate has nevertheless done a brilliant job and got most of the big calls spot on. Hopefully we see him be a bit more proactive with his substitutions given the quality we have on the bench.
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
The main issue tonight was Southgate's failure to change things when the tide was clearly in Italy's favour. 10 minutes into the second half, Italy were getting the ball into their midfield much easier and getting players on the ball between the lines. They were starting to turn the screw.
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Exactly this. Momentum was key tonight and it was clear Italy were getting it. The formation we started with didn’t really give us the chance to get it back - we were the better side first half but we effectively started at 1-0 which makes a massive difference.
All that aside though, we got to penalties and bottled it. Your opponent misses twice, you win. Simple.
Imagine having two attacking talents in your squad and choosing to bring them on only for penalties, rather than to actually attack.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
We were facking shiet from the 10th minute onwards.
What game were people watching?
We defended from around the 10th minute to the 105th minute.
We only ventured into italys box from the 105-115th minute before being penned back again.
Tonight's loss is on southgate for making us play so fecking negative.
Their cbs combined age is like 80, they pushed high up the pitch, we have the quickest players on the pitch and we played no balls in behind?
About 10 times when maguire had the ball he was looking around for movement and there was NOTHING.
Maguire, what a player this tournament, an absolute rock.
I've slated him to no end for united but for England hes been brilliant.
He's confidence on the pitch topped off by a fantastic penalty.
Back to southgate.
Why did mount play for so long again? Useless against Denmark and useless tonight.
Why the fking fk bring rash and Sancho on in the last seconds of the game to try and save your negative facking ass?
Honestly expecting a couple of kids who hadn't even warmed up properly and played a total of 10 minutes in this tournament was utter fecking ret4rded. Jesus wept.
Putting all that pressure on lads who are not match fit was ridiculous.
Sancho and rash played about 20 minutes between them since club football ended.
Anyway. Feck off southgate. Negative, useless tripe tactics played tonight.
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 8 minutes ago
We were facking shiet from the 10th minute onwards.
What game were people watching?
We defended from around the 10th minute to the 105th minute.
We only ventured into italys box from the 105-115th minute before being penned back again.
Tonight's loss is on southgate for making us play so fecking negative.
Their cbs combined age is like 80, they pushed high up the pitch, we have the quickest players on the pitch and we played no balls in behind?
About 10 times when maguire had the ball he was looking around for movement and there was NOTHING.
Maguire, what a player this tournament, an absolute rock.
I've slated him to no end for united but for England hes been brilliant.
He's confidence on the pitch topped off by a fantastic penalty.
Back to southgate.
Why did mount play for so long again? Useless against Denmark and useless tonight.
Why the fking fk bring rash and Sancho on in the last seconds of the game to try and save your negative facking ass?
Honestly expecting a couple of kids who hadn't even warmed up properly and played a total of 10 minutes in this tournament was utter fecking ret4rded. Jesus wept.
Putting all that pressure on lads who are not match fit was ridiculous.
Sancho and rash played about 20 minutes between them since club football ended.
Anyway. Feck off southgate. Negative, useless tripe tactics played tonight.
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You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
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Come on, hardly tripe. The guys made a lot of mistakes in his united career.
Hopefully he can carry on his England form because if he does we'll have some defender in the team.
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
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Come on, hardly tripe. The guys made a lot of mistakes in his united career.
Hopefully he can carry on his England form because if he does we'll have some defender in the team.
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You said you’d played with better guys in Sunday league.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
It helps Maguire that the England team are set up better defensively than Utd.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
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Done better than getting to the final and losing on penalties with the third or fourth best squad in the competition?
Would France, Germany or even Spain have done better if they’d been more defensive?
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
It helps Maguire that the England team are set up better defensively than Utd.
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Nah Maguire is still not much more than just a good CB who will eventually get exposed due to his lack of pace and mobility.
He's hardly faced any great attacking teams this tournament. Italy literally only had Chiesa who was any good.
We'll see the usual Maguire back in the prem next season.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
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Germany aren't the same force they used to be and we were playing at home. I think we could have still beaten them with another selection and formation. The other sides were all beatable. Italy were by far the toughest side we faced but we started so well and had momentum in the first half. That really adds to the feeling of it being a wasted opportunity to finally win something.
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
It helps Maguire that the England team are set up better defensively than Utd.
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Nah Maguire is still not much more than just a good CB who will eventually get exposed due to his lack of pace and mobility.
He's hardly faced any great attacking teams this tournament. Italy literally only had Chiesa who was any good.
We'll see the usual Maguire back in the prem next season.
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He had Walker covering for pace. We need to get a quick defender next to him.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
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Come on, hardly tripe. The guys made a lot of mistakes in his united career.
Hopefully he can carry on his England form because if he does we'll have some defender in the team.
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You said you’d played with better guys in Sunday league.
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I don't want to turn this into a Maguire bashing article because he deserves praise for his Euros performances.
To say he's been great for united though.... You'd have to be a bit of a spanner to believe that.
Average at best. (For united)
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
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Done better than getting to the final and losing on penalties with the third or fourth best squad in the competition?
Would France, Germany or even Spain have done better if they’d been more defensive?
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Fine margins, but we were 0-0 with Germany at 75 minutes and little between the teams. With one more attack-minded player on the pitch, we might have got the ascendancy earlier. And tonight - even if we hadn’t scored in two minutes, a side with two fast players in the front three might have caused them more problems than we did overall.
I like Southgate and think he’s obviously done really well, but for me the selections were an issue tonight and probably were against Germany too, even if we got through that. I’m not trying to have a go at him for nothing. He’s got us in a great place for the next competition.
As for those other teams, I’m sure that in France in particular they are lambasting Deschamps.
The hype over Southgates tactics and how good this side is/were is just that, hype.
When you actually look at each game England played they only had more shots in a game twice, against Ukraine and then Denmark, one of those games wasn't even at home meaning that in five of the six games you couldn't even outshoot the opposition whilst being the huge home favourite.
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posted on 11/7/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
Absolute facking ballocks.
England win the shootout and people would rightly be talking about him tactically more than matching up against a superior Italy side.
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Well, if they were, that would be generous. I’m not criticising Southgate but I say he got it wrong tonight. With the starting XI, in the second half and in the second half of extra time. But he’s been brilliant overall and no real complaints from me.
posted on 11/7/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolute facking ballocks.
England win the shootout and people would rightly be talking about him tactically more than matching up against a superior Italy side.
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this is social media 10 mins after england get beat. What do you expect to read.
posted on 11/7/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolute facking ballocks.
England win the shootout and people would rightly be talking about him tactically more than matching up against a superior Italy side.
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this is social media 10 mins after england get beat. What do you expect to read.
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If you look back far enough, it's not the first time these accusations have been levied against him...
posted on 11/7/21
Southgate didn't lose because he didn't play Grealish or Sancho or whichever player is flavour of the month.
Set up was fine and caused Italy problems and got a goal up. Issue was the second half- whether that was mentality or his orders is another question.
Southgate had a mare on the penalties. I don't care if you're the best pen taker in the world, if you've barely kicked a ball all tournament you're gonna struggle with the pressure. And then to get a 19yr old to take the 5th one
posted on 11/7/21
Southgate is praised by lots of pundits on the Beeb, not much criticism on the subs and letting Saka take the 5th.
Media already talking about the world cup
posted on 11/7/21
He's really reluctant to take off Sterling and Mount, and so doesn't bring on those game changing players—until too late.
posted on 12/7/21
The main issue tonight was Southgate's failure to change things when the tide was clearly in Italy's favour. 10 minutes into the second half, Italy were getting the ball into their midfield much easier and getting players on the ball between the lines. They were starting to turn the screw.
We needed to change the shape there and then but he decided to stick and they then went on to equalise. Once we switched formation we evened the game back up again, but a more proactive approach might have prevented their goal.
The other issue is that England's biggest strength is the depth and quality of the attacking options on the bench. Lots of game-changers who were introduced too late to make any real impact.
Mount wasn't at the races (again), Sterling not at his best tonight and although I like Saka, I think his performances have been overstated. Sancho had a better game against Ukraine than Saka had against anyone else and Grealish has looked very lively despite largely playing cameo roles in harder moments of the games.
Southgate has nevertheless done a brilliant job and got most of the big calls spot on. Hopefully we see him be a bit more proactive with his substitutions given the quality we have on the bench.
posted on 12/7/21
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
posted on 12/7/21
The main issue tonight was Southgate's failure to change things when the tide was clearly in Italy's favour. 10 minutes into the second half, Italy were getting the ball into their midfield much easier and getting players on the ball between the lines. They were starting to turn the screw.
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Exactly this. Momentum was key tonight and it was clear Italy were getting it. The formation we started with didn’t really give us the chance to get it back - we were the better side first half but we effectively started at 1-0 which makes a massive difference.
All that aside though, we got to penalties and bottled it. Your opponent misses twice, you win. Simple.
posted on 12/7/21
Imagine having two attacking talents in your squad and choosing to bring them on only for penalties, rather than to actually attack.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
posted on 12/7/21
We were facking shiet from the 10th minute onwards.
What game were people watching?
We defended from around the 10th minute to the 105th minute.
We only ventured into italys box from the 105-115th minute before being penned back again.
Tonight's loss is on southgate for making us play so fecking negative.
Their cbs combined age is like 80, they pushed high up the pitch, we have the quickest players on the pitch and we played no balls in behind?
About 10 times when maguire had the ball he was looking around for movement and there was NOTHING.
Maguire, what a player this tournament, an absolute rock.
I've slated him to no end for united but for England hes been brilliant.
He's confidence on the pitch topped off by a fantastic penalty.
Back to southgate.
Why did mount play for so long again? Useless against Denmark and useless tonight.
Why the fking fk bring rash and Sancho on in the last seconds of the game to try and save your negative facking ass?
Honestly expecting a couple of kids who hadn't even warmed up properly and played a total of 10 minutes in this tournament was utter fecking ret4rded. Jesus wept.
Putting all that pressure on lads who are not match fit was ridiculous.
Sancho and rash played about 20 minutes between them since club football ended.
Anyway. Feck off southgate. Negative, useless tripe tactics played tonight.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 8 minutes ago
We were facking shiet from the 10th minute onwards.
What game were people watching?
We defended from around the 10th minute to the 105th minute.
We only ventured into italys box from the 105-115th minute before being penned back again.
Tonight's loss is on southgate for making us play so fecking negative.
Their cbs combined age is like 80, they pushed high up the pitch, we have the quickest players on the pitch and we played no balls in behind?
About 10 times when maguire had the ball he was looking around for movement and there was NOTHING.
Maguire, what a player this tournament, an absolute rock.
I've slated him to no end for united but for England hes been brilliant.
He's confidence on the pitch topped off by a fantastic penalty.
Back to southgate.
Why did mount play for so long again? Useless against Denmark and useless tonight.
Why the fking fk bring rash and Sancho on in the last seconds of the game to try and save your negative facking ass?
Honestly expecting a couple of kids who hadn't even warmed up properly and played a total of 10 minutes in this tournament was utter fecking ret4rded. Jesus wept.
Putting all that pressure on lads who are not match fit was ridiculous.
Sancho and rash played about 20 minutes between them since club football ended.
Anyway. Feck off southgate. Negative, useless tripe tactics played tonight.
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You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
posted on 12/7/21
You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
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Come on, hardly tripe. The guys made a lot of mistakes in his united career.
Hopefully he can carry on his England form because if he does we'll have some defender in the team.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
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Come on, hardly tripe. The guys made a lot of mistakes in his united career.
Hopefully he can carry on his England form because if he does we'll have some defender in the team.
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You said you’d played with better guys in Sunday league.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
posted on 12/7/21
It helps Maguire that the England team are set up better defensively than Utd.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
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Done better than getting to the final and losing on penalties with the third or fourth best squad in the competition?
Would France, Germany or even Spain have done better if they’d been more defensive?
posted on 12/7/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
It helps Maguire that the England team are set up better defensively than Utd.
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Nah Maguire is still not much more than just a good CB who will eventually get exposed due to his lack of pace and mobility.
He's hardly faced any great attacking teams this tournament. Italy literally only had Chiesa who was any good.
We'll see the usual Maguire back in the prem next season.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
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Germany aren't the same force they used to be and we were playing at home. I think we could have still beaten them with another selection and formation. The other sides were all beatable. Italy were by far the toughest side we faced but we started so well and had momentum in the first half. That really adds to the feeling of it being a wasted opportunity to finally win something.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by Lurker - "We did it on derby day" (U21432)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
It helps Maguire that the England team are set up better defensively than Utd.
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Nah Maguire is still not much more than just a good CB who will eventually get exposed due to his lack of pace and mobility.
He's hardly faced any great attacking teams this tournament. Italy literally only had Chiesa who was any good.
We'll see the usual Maguire back in the prem next season.
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He had Walker covering for pace. We need to get a quick defender next to him.
posted on 12/7/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
You don’t have any right to ever speak about Maguire ever again the absolute tripe you’ve talked about him all season.
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Come on, hardly tripe. The guys made a lot of mistakes in his united career.
Hopefully he can carry on his England form because if he does we'll have some defender in the team.
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You said you’d played with better guys in Sunday league.
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I don't want to turn this into a Maguire bashing article because he deserves praise for his Euros performances.
To say he's been great for united though.... You'd have to be a bit of a spanner to believe that.
Average at best. (For united)
posted on 12/7/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
It wasn’t a great Italian team. It’s a shame we end up thinking we didn’t really go for it, but that’s the style that got us to the final, and then to penalties.
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I don't like this idea that it's the style that got us here. We have talented players in this squad. I'm sure we could have reached a final with another more attacking style.
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It’s the great unanswered question of these Euros: would we have done better with less caution? I said we were too negative against Germany but we won. I definitely think we were too negative tonight. Having pace up front was our best chance and we sacrificed a fast player. Plus, that was a 1-0 formation and I feel we scored too early really. They were always going to have an extended spell of pressure at 1-0 and of course they made it count.
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Done better than getting to the final and losing on penalties with the third or fourth best squad in the competition?
Would France, Germany or even Spain have done better if they’d been more defensive?
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Fine margins, but we were 0-0 with Germany at 75 minutes and little between the teams. With one more attack-minded player on the pitch, we might have got the ascendancy earlier. And tonight - even if we hadn’t scored in two minutes, a side with two fast players in the front three might have caused them more problems than we did overall.
I like Southgate and think he’s obviously done really well, but for me the selections were an issue tonight and probably were against Germany too, even if we got through that. I’m not trying to have a go at him for nothing. He’s got us in a great place for the next competition.
As for those other teams, I’m sure that in France in particular they are lambasting Deschamps.
posted on 12/7/21
The hype over Southgates tactics and how good this side is/were is just that, hype.
When you actually look at each game England played they only had more shots in a game twice, against Ukraine and then Denmark, one of those games wasn't even at home meaning that in five of the six games you couldn't even outshoot the opposition whilst being the huge home favourite.
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