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posted on 20/8/21

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've had an awful window so far. The only first X1 player, Romero, by all accounts had a mare today. He'll take time to get up to speed, whilst we sold our best CB for peanuts, so get used to Dier/Sanchez for the foreseeable.

Nuno will get us organised and fighting, which should get us more competitive like v City. However, over a long season we are in desperate need of reinforcements.
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Romero was poor, but cannot really judge him with some of the clowns he had around him. I am sure if he partners Sanchez and has PEH in front of him, he will be fine.
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The same Sanchez that has given away numerous penalties and own goals in the last 18 months, made lots of individual errors and turned himself into a meme by face planting the floor? Yeah, he’s just the rock that Romero needs to help settle him in.
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Agreed Ace. I’m sorry Sandy, but I’m not putting Sanchez on a pedestal like you because he had 1 bloody good game mate. The fact we go into this Wolves game hoping to recall Dier and Sanchez as our centre backs is all I need too know. Truly atrocious planning and window so far. The defence should of been strengthened throughout and sorted for the new season. Instead whilst Romero is settling, we have the 2 donkeys as our 1st choice partnership. I’m telling everyone now, they are both not good enough and will get found out. A great performance v City, but even Moussa Sissoko has had the odd corker of a game. How have we got too this stage where Sanchez and Dier are our preferred partnership ?
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The two donkeys you were cheering on Sunday Don, give it a rest. You don't know Romero is going to be better at all. Going from last night, he isn't. But it is early days, so he needs to settle in, then we will judge him.

I think we can both agree though that Winks is a pub player, as are Davies and Doherty.
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Yes agree with your last statement, but I will reiterate, Sanchez and Dier are not good enough. Sissoko has had the odd corker of a game, so if we base that on this, is he a starter ? I’m sorry but whilst Sanchez and Dier were very good, I have no trust In them. Having these as our 1st choice pairing and we are eventually asking for trouble. Buy a new centre back and hopefully settle Romero. Sanchez and Dier are bench players for me, nothing more

posted on 20/8/21

I wonder if Covid had an impact on team selection. In a low priority game for us we didn't wang to risk 1st team players flying as highish risk activity. We will have a stronger squad for home length I think.

COYS!

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 20/8/21

It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 47 minutes ago
All the comments above about squad depth are correct.
The squad we have ATM is a total joke.
Here are the guys you may be able to depend upon:
Lloris , Gollini
Tanganga, Rodon, Davies?, Dier?, Reguilon, Aurier? Sanchez?, Doherty?
Lo Celso, Moura, Hojbjerg, Sissoko? Alli
Son, Bergwijn, Kane

New and untested: Romero, Gil, Scarlett, Parrot,
Any name with a "?" means that player is either not dependable or should have been traded, or both.

I count exactly 12 names without "?".

6 names with "?"
And 4 new or untested guys.
That is a total of 22 players 10 of which are questionable.
And I have included Kane.

Can we even put out an unquestionable first eleven?
And what happens with a couple of injuries?
This squad is way too thin to enter a new season in the Premiere League.
Unless there is some last minute great trading, I expect this season to be a disaster for the club.

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It did clarify one thing for Nuno. He really has a small squad of dependables. So he should use them wisely

comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 20/8/21

comment by MK (U9129)
posted 5 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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To successfully swim in silver wear its best to avoid nude beaches....

posted on 20/8/21

comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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Blame fans also
..we constantly mock other leagues arrogantly, call players farmers and postmen because we think prem football is the best. Sadly thus filters down to players also.

Lack of respect all round. Nuno must learn that rotation doesn't mean you rotate backline. We need stability moving forward.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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100 per cent correct mate. If Spurs dont win this trophy it will be embarrassing. At the moment though not even sure of getting through to the group stages.

I am not against playing squad players, but not all in the same team. You need a mixture of 1st XI and squad players, which should still be possible, without burning them out.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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100 per cent correct mate. If Spurs dont win this trophy it will be embarrassing. At the moment though not even sure of getting through to the group stages.

I am not against playing squad players, but not all in the same team. You need a mixture of 1st XI and squad players, which should still be possible, without burning them out.
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When last did Spurs win a 3rd tier European trophy?

posted on 20/8/21

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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100 per cent correct mate. If Spurs dont win this trophy it will be embarrassing. At the moment though not even sure of getting through to the group stages.

I am not against playing squad players, but not all in the same team. You need a mixture of 1st XI and squad players, which should still be possible, without burning them out.
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We would forever be laughed at if we don’t win this. Imagine not even being able to win the Europa Conference 3rd rate competition

posted on 20/8/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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100 per cent correct mate. If Spurs dont win this trophy it will be embarrassing. At the moment though not even sure of getting through to the group stages.

I am not against playing squad players, but not all in the same team. You need a mixture of 1st XI and squad players, which should still be possible, without burning them out.
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When last did Spurs win a 3rd tier European trophy?
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UEFA Cup 1972 probably, the cup winners cup at the time was considered bigger, as was the European Cup.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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100 per cent correct mate. If Spurs dont win this trophy it will be embarrassing. At the moment though not even sure of getting through to the group stages.

I am not against playing squad players, but not all in the same team. You need a mixture of 1st XI and squad players, which should still be possible, without burning them out.
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We would forever be laughed at if we don’t win this. Imagine not even being able to win the Europa Conference 3rd rate competition
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Imagine losing in your first ever game.

posted on 20/8/21

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posted on 20/8/21

I think the thing is, we could win this trophy if we put all of our eggs into it.

But there's a reason why we wouldn't do that, clearly. The same reason why we don't say, forget trying to get into Europe through the league and sack off the FA Cup this season, let's save all of our efforts purely for the League Cup and make sure we win that.

It would be silly, wouldn't it?

Does anyone think a League Cup win (and thus the end of our 13 year trophy drought) would turn the heads of players who currently aren't interested in us, or make the likes of Kane want to stay?

Well I'm afraid that's the same for this ridiculous competition. We're on a hiding to nowhere with it. We've got fans on here saying not winning it would be a disaster, but a Manager and senior players who couldn't care less whether they win it or not (understandably, IMO, because I couldn't either).

I'm 100% behind Nuno's attitude towards it if last night is an indication of how he is approaching it. Let the same 11 from last night try and get us out of the mess they put us in in the 2nd leg. If they do, great, another 6 games at least to play against weak opposition for squad players to keep their fitness, young players like Scarlett and Devine to get some good game time etc. If not, then we'll have the same advantage in the league that everyone is saying Arsenal should have in having no European footy to distract us. Don't forget, Chelsea finished 10th in 15/16, then won the league in 16/17.

I don't want to see the likes of Kane, Son, Lucas etc anywhere near the squad in the group stages, should we get there.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 5 minutes ago
I think the thing is, we could win this trophy if we put all of our eggs into it.

But there's a reason why we wouldn't do that, clearly. The same reason why we don't say, forget trying to get into Europe through the league and sack off the FA Cup this season, let's save all of our efforts purely for the League Cup and make sure we win that.

It would be silly, wouldn't it?

Does anyone think a League Cup win (and thus the end of our 13 year trophy drought) would turn the heads of players who currently aren't interested in us, or make the likes of Kane want to stay?

Well I'm afraid that's the same for this ridiculous competition. We're on a hiding to nowhere with it. We've got fans on here saying not winning it would be a disaster, but a Manager and senior players who couldn't care less whether they win it or not (understandably, IMO, because I couldn't either).

I'm 100% behind Nuno's attitude towards it if last night is an indication of how he is approaching it. Let the same 11 from last night try and get us out of the mess they put us in in the 2nd leg. If they do, great, another 6 games at least to play against weak opposition for squad players to keep their fitness, young players like Scarlett and Devine to get some good game time etc. If not, then we'll have the same advantage in the league that everyone is saying Arsenal should have in having no European footy to distract us. Don't forget, Chelsea finished 10th in 15/16, then won the league in 16/17.

I don't want to see the likes of Kane, Son, Lucas etc anywhere near the squad in the group stages, should we get there.
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Believe me Spurs won't reach the group stages if they play the same team as last night.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by MK (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is embarrassing as a team even second string should be enough to beat them and I think we’ll do them easily at home to get through.

It’s a tournament that anything but lifting the trophy would be a disaster IMO. A club like our should be aiming to win every trophy especially as we aren’t exactly swimming in silverware.
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100 per cent correct mate. If Spurs dont win this trophy it will be embarrassing. At the moment though not even sure of getting through to the group stages.

I am not against playing squad players, but not all in the same team. You need a mixture of 1st XI and squad players, which should still be possible, without burning them out.
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We would forever be laughed at if we don’t win this. Imagine not even being able to win the Europa Conference 3rd rate competition
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I think if we went all out to win i and lost then yes. If we just put out teams like last nights and it’s obvious we’ve thrown the comp in favour of focusing on the league and domestic cups then no.
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Come on Ace, you know for a fact regardless of what team we put out, if we end up potless again this season and can’t even win the 3rd rate European trophy, we will memed and laughed at everywhere. Banter club.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 5 minutes ago
I think the thing is, we could win this trophy if we put all of our eggs into it.

But there's a reason why we wouldn't do that, clearly. The same reason why we don't say, forget trying to get into Europe through the league and sack off the FA Cup this season, let's save all of our efforts purely for the League Cup and make sure we win that.

It would be silly, wouldn't it?

Does anyone think a League Cup win (and thus the end of our 13 year trophy drought) would turn the heads of players who currently aren't interested in us, or make the likes of Kane want to stay?

Well I'm afraid that's the same for this ridiculous competition. We're on a hiding to nowhere with it. We've got fans on here saying not winning it would be a disaster, but a Manager and senior players who couldn't care less whether they win it or not (understandably, IMO, because I couldn't either).

I'm 100% behind Nuno's attitude towards it if last night is an indication of how he is approaching it. Let the same 11 from last night try and get us out of the mess they put us in in the 2nd leg. If they do, great, another 6 games at least to play against weak opposition for squad players to keep their fitness, young players like Scarlett and Devine to get some good game time etc. If not, then we'll have the same advantage in the league that everyone is saying Arsenal should have in having no European footy to distract us. Don't forget, Chelsea finished 10th in 15/16, then won the league in 16/17.

I don't want to see the likes of Kane, Son, Lucas etc anywhere near the squad in the group stages, should we get there.
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Believe me Spurs won't reach the group stages if they play the same team as last night.
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I think we would, and will do exactly that. The lesser European teams for some reason are often like rabbits in headlights away from home to an English team, and will probably play into our hands by trying to defend their lead.

I've just realised, I was a little bummed that we didn't get an away goal, but if I'm correct, they don't count anyway now?

posted on 20/8/21

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posted on 20/8/21

I’d say your best just throwing it. Nobody cares about the Europa conference. It would just be a hindrance on your season.

posted on 20/8/21

Assuming we get to at least the group stages, it's literally like having a banana skin first round league cup tie to navigate every other Thursday. We should beat Pacos, we should win all 6 group games if we do get there, we should win the whole thing. But every team who we play will be desperate to beat us because, probably along with Roma, we're the biggest team in the thing. So it's literally a no-win situation. Won't get any credit for winning any game because we 'should', if we get knocked out at any point we'll get mocked, hell, even if we win it I think we'll get mocked!

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 20/8/21

Don’t really care about this comp. if we win it people want give us any credit as really, if we go for it, we should win it. Kind of like Man City. So much richer than everyone else that our players should win every game.

However if we get knocked out then we can focus on bigger things without giving the players the ‘Thursday night tiredness’ excuse.

I’m with nuno. Play the squad players. And Kane.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don’t really care about this comp. if we win it people want give us any credit as really, if we go for it, we should win it. Kind of like Man City. So much richer than everyone else that our players should win every game.

However if we get knocked out then we can focus on bigger things without giving the players the ‘Thursday night tiredness’ excuse.

I’m with nuno. Play the squad players. And Kane.
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Spot on.

This seems unfair somewhat, but a place in the CL rather than the Europa for the winners would make it much more of an incentive to be in, and to try to win.

posted on 20/8/21

comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 9 minutes ago
Don’t really care about this comp. if we win it people want give us any credit as really, if we go for it, we should win it. Kind of like Man City. So much richer than everyone else that our players should win every game.

However if we get knocked out then we can focus on bigger things without giving the players the ‘Thursday night tiredness’ excuse.

I’m with nuno. Play the squad players. And Kane.
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Agreed. It’s a bit of joke competition if I’m going to be honest. Yes I am desperate for trophies, but I don’t want to be laughed at by winning one. It’s not much different winning the Aldi cup. People will laugh at us even if we win it because an awful 3rd rate European farmer cup competition. We lose it, we get taken the p*** out of even more. It’s literally a no win scenario in this cup, rather just bin it off. Totally pointless.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 20/8/21

The really disappointing thing is it’s taken the shine off sundays result a bit. I just hope the players can regain their momentum

posted on 20/8/21

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
All the comments above about squad depth are correct.
The squad we have ATM is a total joke.
Here are the guys you may be able to depend upon:
Lloris , Gollini
Tanganga, Rodon, Davies?, Dier?, Reguilon, Aurier? Sanchez?, Doherty?
Lo Celso, Moura, Hojbjerg, Sissoko? Alli
Son, Bergwijn, Kane

New and untested: Romero, Gil, Scarlett, Parrot,
Any name with a "?" means that player is either not dependable or should have been traded, or both.

I count exactly 12 names without "?".

6 names with "?"
And 4 new or untested guys.
That is a total of 22 players 10 of which are questionable.
And I have included Kane.

Can we even put out an unquestionable first eleven?
And what happens with a couple of injuries?
This squad is way too thin to enter a new season in the Premiere League.
Unless there is some last minute great trading, I expect this season to be a disaster for the club.

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LOL it didn't take Ted long, to say the whole season would be a disaster.

No it won't Ted, not if the manager mixes and matches. Spurs can navigate the cup competitions if they mix and match a bit. They don't have to go completely reserve like last night. They can at least have two or three of the better players available for the cup games. No excuse why any of them cannot play twice a week.


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You are not looking at the squad.
You're just splattering your head off.
with a lot of if's and ...
"They can at least have two or three of the better players available for the cup games." !!!
There are 11 players in a team. We had "two or three better players" and got beat by a nonentity.

Where do you get your drivel, Sandy?

posted on 20/8/21

Sorry, stopped reading after "What is the point of Spurs"

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