Another barnstorming thread from 52!
Wars are usually about land or resources aren't they really. Maybe the sides are separated by religion but the argument is more than that.
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Another barnstorming thread from 52!
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Rumours are he took Methuselah for his first pint.
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There are more Christians on the planet than any other religion. And the post-Christian Western nations are still fundamentally Christian even if faith doesn’t underpin the society anymore. The idea Christianity is no longer relevant is completely wrong.
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I would love to see church attendance numbers
Christians by name maybe but very little by practice, it's growing in irrelevance with each passing day
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They’ll be in their billions, and even more will identify as Christian even if not as committed and attending church.
Britain’s religious practices are not reflective of the world. But even so, it’s cultural, moral and legal fabric are Christian. The idea it is an irrelevance in the world is just completely wrong.
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Wars are usually about land or resources aren't they really. Maybe the sides are separated by religion but the argument is more than that.
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Religion is/was a resource
As part of pillage/rape there was mass conversion. Construction of place of worship, societal change as a result.
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comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
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There are more Christians on the planet than any other religion. And the post-Christian Western nations are still fundamentally Christian even if faith doesn’t underpin the society anymore. The idea Christianity is no longer relevant is completely wrong.
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I would love to see church attendance numbers
Christians by name maybe but very little by practice, it's growing in irrelevance with each passing day
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’ll be in their billions, and even more will identify as Christian even if not as committed and attending church.
Britain’s religious practices are not reflective of the world. But even so, it’s cultural, moral and legal fabric are Christian. The idea it is an irrelevance in the world is just completely wrong.
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Does lack of commitment to a faith still qualify you as a Christian?
Being born into a faith without commitment to it does not make you a follower of that faith imho, be it any of the Abrahamic religions
Church attendances are dwindling, in fact churches are being readily bought up by other faith groups and converted as their place of worship.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/20/less-that-half-of-britons-expected-to-tick-christian-in-uk-census
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Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.
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I'm not sure that is true, at all.
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I'm afraid it is.
Many things that end in an -ism is a form of religion.
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Nah, it's not, mainly because religion involves an all power omnipotent being and my values do not do they.
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Buddhism doesn't have this, yet still a religion.
You like many, have a narrow definition of religion.
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Oh and I don't buy into religion creates wars etc.
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Yeah, right
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If the wars weren’t dressed up as religious wars then there’d be another reason.
It’s always been the same and probably (perversely) why humankind has become the dominant and most “intelligent” life form on the planet.
We are destined to fail because we cannot live together and draining the planet of its resources.
A form of AI will take over as the lead “species” and will depart this planet and start elsewhere
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posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Plump up the jam (U22314)
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Another barnstorming thread from 52!
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Rumours are he took Methuselah for his first pint.
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52 is vintage but not that old DC!
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Yes, because there’s always been different levels of commitment towards faith and religion. You’ve just got a narrow view of it. And the stats about church attendances in Britain do nothing to contradict my point about Christianity globally, or even domestically, particularly because even in the absence of God these secular nations are still fundamentally Christian - people either just don’t know it or refuse to accept it.
Haven't read the comments, although I will, good article though.
One thing I will say is, it's only the clergy who don't get locked up for hearing voices.
Personally I think religion is a cop out and offers many an excuse for everything.
"There are no atheists on a sinking ship." Where did you get that? That does not ring true.
It seems religion has always been a part of humanity. Humans need something larger than life itself to believe in. It gives many a meaning and purpose.
I don't see any evidence of any god(s), but can't be certain. If one should exist, then I hope it's not the god depicted in the Bible.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
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Personally I think religion is a cop out and offers many an excuse for everything.
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Yep
It offers very vague solutions to everything. It's never wrong, ask any follower of faith!
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in fact churches are being readily bought up by other faith groups and converted as their place of worship.
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The Spoonies
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Yes, because there’s always been different levels of commitment towards faith and religion. You’ve just got a narrow view of it. And the stats about church attendances in Britain do nothing to contradict my point about Christianity globally, or even domestically, particularly because even in the absence of God these secular nations are still fundamentally Christian - people either just don’t know it or refuse to accept it.
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I get your point
What is fundamentally Christian about 21st Century multi cultural, multi faith, sexually diverse England for example?
What are these ideals you speak of?
The problem atheists have is in a couple of months they'll be celebrating Christmas. When asked why, they will say it brings families together. Yes, religion brings families together, and what does Atheism do that is as meaningful?
The only two sovereign states in the world to award clerics of the established religion votes in their legislatures are the UK and the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Think about that.
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Christmas soon.
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Hail capitalism
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Christmas soon.
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Even then it's based on a celebration of the winter solstice by Pagans which over the ages was subsumed into Chistandom as a key ideal, as a celebration of the birth of Jesus!
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The problem atheists have is in a couple of months they'll be celebrating Christmas. When asked why, they will say it brings families together. Yes, religion brings families together, and what does Atheism do that is as meaningful?
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Christmas is less about Christianity and more about secular winter holiday.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Christmas soon.
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Hail capitalism
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Happy Holidays!
Look at how Christianity is wrecking America, evangelicals have so much wealth and power and they adamantly believe in the specifics of the Bible. They pit the put the bible on a par with the constitution that ironically never once mentions Bible or God.
They use the bible as a shield to abhorrent behaviour, literally no difference between them and ISIS when it comes to using religion as a weapon.
Look up Pastor Gregg Locke, he's the reason I can't stand organised religion.
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posted on 26/10/21
Another barnstorming thread from 52!
posted on 26/10/21
Wars are usually about land or resources aren't they really. Maybe the sides are separated by religion but the argument is more than that.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Plump up the jam (U22314)
posted 6 seconds ago
Another barnstorming thread from 52!
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Rumours are he took Methuselah for his first pint.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Plump up the jam (U22314)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 36 minutes ago
There are more Christians on the planet than any other religion. And the post-Christian Western nations are still fundamentally Christian even if faith doesn’t underpin the society anymore. The idea Christianity is no longer relevant is completely wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would love to see church attendance numbers
Christians by name maybe but very little by practice, it's growing in irrelevance with each passing day
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’ll be in their billions, and even more will identify as Christian even if not as committed and attending church.
Britain’s religious practices are not reflective of the world. But even so, it’s cultural, moral and legal fabric are Christian. The idea it is an irrelevance in the world is just completely wrong.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 30 seconds ago
Wars are usually about land or resources aren't they really. Maybe the sides are separated by religion but the argument is more than that.
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Religion is/was a resource
As part of pillage/rape there was mass conversion. Construction of place of worship, societal change as a result.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump up the jam (U22314)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 36 minutes ago
There are more Christians on the planet than any other religion. And the post-Christian Western nations are still fundamentally Christian even if faith doesn’t underpin the society anymore. The idea Christianity is no longer relevant is completely wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would love to see church attendance numbers
Christians by name maybe but very little by practice, it's growing in irrelevance with each passing day
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’ll be in their billions, and even more will identify as Christian even if not as committed and attending church.
Britain’s religious practices are not reflective of the world. But even so, it’s cultural, moral and legal fabric are Christian. The idea it is an irrelevance in the world is just completely wrong.
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Does lack of commitment to a faith still qualify you as a Christian?
Being born into a faith without commitment to it does not make you a follower of that faith imho, be it any of the Abrahamic religions
Church attendances are dwindling, in fact churches are being readily bought up by other faith groups and converted as their place of worship.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/20/less-that-half-of-britons-expected-to-tick-christian-in-uk-census
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.
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I'm not sure that is true, at all.
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I'm afraid it is.
Many things that end in an -ism is a form of religion.
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Nah, it's not, mainly because religion involves an all power omnipotent being and my values do not do they.
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Buddhism doesn't have this, yet still a religion.
You like many, have a narrow definition of religion.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Plump up the jam (U22314)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 14 minutes ago
Oh and I don't buy into religion creates wars etc.
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Yeah, right
đđ
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If the wars weren’t dressed up as religious wars then there’d be another reason.
It’s always been the same and probably (perversely) why humankind has become the dominant and most “intelligent” life form on the planet.
We are destined to fail because we cannot live together and draining the planet of its resources.
A form of AI will take over as the lead “species” and will depart this planet and start elsewhere
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Plump up the jam (U22314)
posted 6 seconds ago
Another barnstorming thread from 52!
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Rumours are he took Methuselah for his first pint.
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52 is vintage but not that old DC!
đ
posted on 26/10/21
Yes, because there’s always been different levels of commitment towards faith and religion. You’ve just got a narrow view of it. And the stats about church attendances in Britain do nothing to contradict my point about Christianity globally, or even domestically, particularly because even in the absence of God these secular nations are still fundamentally Christian - people either just don’t know it or refuse to accept it.
posted on 26/10/21
Haven't read the comments, although I will, good article though.
One thing I will say is, it's only the clergy who don't get locked up for hearing voices.
posted on 26/10/21
Personally I think religion is a cop out and offers many an excuse for everything.
posted on 26/10/21
"There are no atheists on a sinking ship." Where did you get that? That does not ring true.
It seems religion has always been a part of humanity. Humans need something larger than life itself to believe in. It gives many a meaning and purpose.
I don't see any evidence of any god(s), but can't be certain. If one should exist, then I hope it's not the god depicted in the Bible.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 41 seconds ago
Personally I think religion is a cop out and offers many an excuse for everything.
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Yep
It offers very vague solutions to everything. It's never wrong, ask any follower of faith!
posted on 26/10/21
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posted on 26/10/21
in fact churches are being readily bought up by other faith groups and converted as their place of worship.
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The Spoonies
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Yes, because there’s always been different levels of commitment towards faith and religion. You’ve just got a narrow view of it. And the stats about church attendances in Britain do nothing to contradict my point about Christianity globally, or even domestically, particularly because even in the absence of God these secular nations are still fundamentally Christian - people either just don’t know it or refuse to accept it.
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I get your point
What is fundamentally Christian about 21st Century multi cultural, multi faith, sexually diverse England for example?
What are these ideals you speak of?
posted on 26/10/21
Christmas soon.
posted on 26/10/21
The problem atheists have is in a couple of months they'll be celebrating Christmas. When asked why, they will say it brings families together. Yes, religion brings families together, and what does Atheism do that is as meaningful?
posted on 26/10/21
The only two sovereign states in the world to award clerics of the established religion votes in their legislatures are the UK and the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Think about that.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Christmas soon.
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Hail capitalism
posted on 26/10/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Christmas soon.
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Even then it's based on a celebration of the winter solstice by Pagans which over the ages was subsumed into Chistandom as a key ideal, as a celebration of the birth of Jesus!
posted on 26/10/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The problem atheists have is in a couple of months they'll be celebrating Christmas. When asked why, they will say it brings families together. Yes, religion brings families together, and what does Atheism do that is as meaningful?
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Christmas is less about Christianity and more about secular winter holiday.
posted on 26/10/21
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Christmas soon.
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Hail capitalism
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Happy Holidays!
posted on 26/10/21
Look at how Christianity is wrecking America, evangelicals have so much wealth and power and they adamantly believe in the specifics of the Bible. They pit the put the bible on a par with the constitution that ironically never once mentions Bible or God.
They use the bible as a shield to abhorrent behaviour, literally no difference between them and ISIS when it comes to using religion as a weapon.
Look up Pastor Gregg Locke, he's the reason I can't stand organised religion.
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