comment by Say Salah Salah whatever will be (U22757)
posted less than a minute ago
Mercedes played it all correctly as per the rules
The rules were then bent in Maxs favour
They did nothing strategically wrong
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I totally disagree, as many other have.
Despite being on the medium tyres at the start of the race which could have lasted longer, Mercedes decided to match the tyre change that Verstappen did early on, as it meant both cars were on the same tyres, and the Mercedes was clearly faster.
It made perfect sense for Mercedes to continue doing this for the entirety of the race, and it certainly made sense to do it with 20 laps remaining.
It was them, and them alone, that chose to keep Hamilton out at that stage, giving Red Bull and advantage…and it was then a case of Mercedes hoping no late Safety Cars ruined the race for them…..and guess what happened
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Say Salah Salah whatever will be (U22757)
posted less than a minute ago
Mercedes played it all correctly as per the rules
The rules were then bent in Maxs favour
They did nothing strategically wrong
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I totally disagree, as many other have.
Despite being on the medium tyres at the start of the race which could have lasted longer, Mercedes decided to match the tyre change that Verstappen did early on, as it meant both cars were on the same tyres, and the Mercedes was clearly faster.
It made perfect sense for Mercedes to continue doing this for the entirety of the race, and it certainly made sense to do it with 20 laps remaining.
It was them, and them alone, that chose to keep Hamilton out at that stage, giving Red Bull and advantage…and it was then a case of Mercedes hoping no late Safety Cars ruined the race for them…..and guess what happened
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This is too much a high risk strategy. More chances of a collision or bringing Perez back into play. They made the right calls at the right time. You cant bank on a safety car with 5 laps to go
This high risk strategy of yours would only make sense if you know there will be a safety car which despite what some believe is not a common occurrence towards the end of a race
That’s utter tosh
If there was no late safety car, Hamilton would have won the race, but the gap between himself and Verstappen would have been much smaller than the 12s gap there was before the SC as Hamilton’s tyres were 40 laps old and Verstappens were only 20 so he was catching with every lap.
If Hamilton pitted under the VSC, he would have had the same age tyres as Verstappen, and he would have had 20 laps, in a faster car, to get past him again.
In my opinion….giving Red Bull a tyre advantage at the end of the race by keeping Hamilton out, twice, under two safety cars….was a far riskier strategy
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted less than a minute ago
That’s utter tosh
If there was no late safety car, Hamilton would have won the race, but the gap between himself and Verstappen would have been much smaller than the 12s gap there was before the SC as Hamilton’s tyres were 40 laps old and Verstappens were only 20 so he was catching with every lap.
If Hamilton pitted under the VSC, he would have had the same age tyres as Verstappen, and he would have had 20 laps, in a faster car, to get past him again.
In my opinion….giving Red Bull a tyre advantage at the end of the race by keeping Hamilton out, twice, under two safety cars….was a far riskier strategy
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You're assuming Verstappen would have pitted if Hamilton did, which is incorrect. They were always going to do the opposite.
And none of that matters, it's about whether the rules were correctly applied. (They weren't.)
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
That’s utter tosh
If there was no late safety car, Hamilton would have won the race, but the gap between himself and Verstappen would have been much smaller than the 12s gap there was before the SC as Hamilton’s tyres were 40 laps old and Verstappens were only 20 so he was catching with every lap.
If Hamilton pitted under the VSC, he would have had the same age tyres as Verstappen, and he would have had 20 laps, in a faster car, to get past him again.
In my opinion….giving Red Bull a tyre advantage at the end of the race by keeping Hamilton out, twice, under two safety cars….was a far riskier strategy
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We'll have to agree to disagree
Max potentially being overtaken and losing the wdc could easily have ended in a collision. Take turn one for example when he goes to fast into the corner on the inside and forces Lewis off who was on the outside
Far too risky to ask Lewis to try to overtake him again. Track position was key and i have no doubt if the teams were reversed then RB would have done what Mercedes did and vice versa.
No….I’m not assuming anything
In lap 37, under the VSC, Red Bull made the call to bring Verstappen in, which put him well behind Hamilton
Mercedes and Hamilton then had a choice to make…….do they follow suit or not
Bono was even on the radio asking Lewis which tyre he would prefer
They chose to stay out on the same tyres, opting for track position with 20 laps to go…it cost them dearly in the end
Masi played his part too yes, of course..,but Mercedes strategic decisions compounded things….massively
Two massive bits of luck decided the outcome of the race
The safety car
Masi bending the rules
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
Safety car, fair enough what can you do? but the bending of the rules so they "race" one lap was extraordinarily lucky for Verstappen especially given the tyre situation making it an unequal scrap
Masi was originally going to allow the 1 lap race with backmarkers in play to even it up but then Horner convinced him otherwise
All a bit too dodge for my liking
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
No….I’m not assuming anything
In lap 37, under the VSC, Red Bull made the call to bring Verstappen in, which put him well behind Hamilton
Mercedes and Hamilton then had a choice to make…….do they follow suit or not
Bono was even on the radio asking Lewis which tyre he would prefer
They chose to stay out on the same tyres, opting for track position with 20 laps to go…it cost them dearly in the end
Masi played his part too yes, of course..,but Mercedes strategic decisions compounded things….massively
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You watched the race and now you're making stuff up. The conversation about which tyres Hamilton would prefer didn't happen under a safety car.
I don’t disagree with you on that, Masi did make a controversial call, unheard of
But, my argument is simply this….Mercedes could have done things earlier in the race which would have went a long way to reduce Red Bull having such a massive tyre advantage in the latter stages
comment by Sol (U2745)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
No….I’m not assuming anything
In lap 37, under the VSC, Red Bull made the call to bring Verstappen in, which put him well behind Hamilton
Mercedes and Hamilton then had a choice to make…….do they follow suit or not
Bono was even on the radio asking Lewis which tyre he would prefer
They chose to stay out on the same tyres, opting for track position with 20 laps to go…it cost them dearly in the end
Masi played his part too yes, of course..,but Mercedes strategic decisions compounded things….massively
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You watched the race and now you're making stuff up. The conversation about which tyres Hamilton would prefer didn't happen under a safety car.
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I didn’t say it did…they discussed which tyres would be better if there was a safety car
In the end….they made no change at all
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted less than a minute ago
I don’t disagree with you on that, Masi did make a controversial call, unheard of
But, my argument is simply this….Mercedes could have done things earlier in the race which would have went a long way to reduce Red Bull having such a massive tyre advantage in the latter stages
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Fair and square Mercedes win the race, it's as simple as that.
I'll bow out now as I've no time for this bollox. Yer man lost if it was a fair race, take comfort in celebrating a win by design, not ability.
comment by Say Salah Salah whatever will be (U22757)
posted 37 minutes ago
Mercedes played it all correctly as per the rules
The rules were then bent in Maxs favour
They did nothing strategically wrong
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Mercedes played by the rules fack off. Last weekend, they held up Max under SC to give Ham more time for a pit, which is not allowed, then at the restart Ham slowed down again so Max tires would cool down. At todays race Ham took advantage by going off track and overtake Max. Then under VSC Toto was begging Massi not to deploy SC. Yep, very clean all of that.
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
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Mercedes feel aggrieved every race. They started moaning about wings back in Spain. They were moaning about Max' tire pressure in Baku. They've been bullying the fack out of Max all season. Silverstone moaning about 10 seconds when Ham put Max in hospital.
You dont talk half shiiit mate
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comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
---------------------------------
Mercedes feel aggrieved every race. They started moaning about wings back in Spain. They were moaning about Max' tire pressure in Baku. They've been bullying the fack out of Max all season. Silverstone moaning about 10 seconds when Ham put Max in hospital.
You dont talk half shiiit mate
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Both teams most. It has slesys been the way.
When Hamilton forced Verstappen wide in Bahrain, and Verstappen overtook him off the track. The FIA forced Verstappen to give the place back.
Yet today on the 1st lap, Verstappen forces Hamilton wide. Hamilton overtakes him off the track, and the FIA just allow it?
And then they lie to everyone by saying "Hamilton gave back the advantage he gained" when that blatantly wasn't true.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
---------------------------------
Mercedes feel aggrieved every race. They started moaning about wings back in Spain. They were moaning about Max' tire pressure in Baku. They've been bullying the fack out of Max all season. Silverstone moaning about 10 seconds when Ham put Max in hospital.
You dont talk half shiiit mate
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Both teams most. It has slesys been the way.
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Better start cleaning that wanck off your keyboard
comment by Sol (U2745)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted less than a minute ago
I don’t disagree with you on that, Masi did make a controversial call, unheard of
But, my argument is simply this….Mercedes could have done things earlier in the race which would have went a long way to reduce Red Bull having such a massive tyre advantage in the latter stages
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Fair and square Mercedes win the race, it's as simple as that.
I'll bow out now as I've no time for this bollox. Yer man lost if it was a fair race, take comfort in celebrating a win by design, not ability.
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Ability? Fair race...
This is F1 you're talking about, having the best car is the most important thing, not individual ability.
If you want fair competition and ability prevailing, f1 isn't the "sport" for you
since the modern cars came in, its been too easy for any team and driver to dominate for years.
we had it with Vettel originally then Mercedes pumped in the cash and their car was unstoppable. now RB seem to be back to some level of par.
in F1 saying anyone is the GOAT is pretty hard, these days its basically a different sport. Hamilton proved that in the last race, he started at the back and his car was so quick he just breezed all the way back to relevance.
it didn't require a superstar driver, anyone on that grid could easily have replicated what he did.
was it last year when Hamilton couldn't race bacuse of covid and his back up driver jumped in his car, his config and got 2nd in qualifying, and was challenging for the victory before he got the puncture.
essentially showed that Hamiltons car is a level above 99% of the field so Hamilton only needs to be an above average driver to bring it home first most weeks.
but anyway, funny to watch them cry and nice to see asterisk titles aren't just given out to football teams these days
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 25 minutes ago
since the modern cars came in, its been too easy for any team and driver to dominate for years.
we had it with Vettel originally then Mercedes pumped in the cash and their car was unstoppable. now RB seem to be back to some level of par.
in F1 saying anyone is the GOAT is pretty hard, these days its basically a different sport. Hamilton proved that in the last race, he started at the back and his car was so quick he just breezed all the way back to relevance.
it didn't require a superstar driver, anyone on that grid could easily have replicated what he did.
was it last year when Hamilton couldn't race bacuse of covid and his back up driver jumped in his car, his config and got 2nd in qualifying, and was challenging for the victory before he got the puncture.
essentially showed that Hamiltons car is a level above 99% of the field so Hamilton only needs to be an above average driver to bring it home first most weeks.
but anyway, funny to watch them cry and nice to see asterisk titles aren't just given out to football teams these days
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Well there is no doubt last season the Mercedes car was dominant, Russell would have had plenty practice in that car and a sample size of one is not significant.
To turn your argument a little, look at Bottas.
Robert had is one slightly lucky season, but other than that he was dominated by Hamilton.
The list iof teammates is s long Alonso, Button, Rosberg and Bottas. Three of them world champions and all of them for the most part outlived by Hamilton
bottas is a second driver tho, not really a fair comparison.
but its funny Hamilton feels screwed in Abu Dhabi. he lost all respect in 2016 when he went out of his way to potentially screw his team and teammate trying to back Rosberg up just for his own selfish glory.
karma, as they say.
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted less than a minute ago
bottas is a second driver tho, not really a fair comparison.
but its funny Hamilton feels screwed in Abu Dhabi. he lost all respect in 2016 when he went out of his way to potentially screw his team and teammate trying to back Rosberg up just for his own selfish glory.
karma, as they say.
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Team was not at risk. Constructors already done. H
World champion working within the rules to stay world champion
thats not how it works tho.
he races for mercedes. he is not an independent.
his actions could've caused Rosberg to try get out the choke hold and do something crazy which could've resulted in a huge accident between the pair of them, potentially severely hurting one or both of them, potentially jeopardizing their ability to race int he future, and causing millions of damage to their cars.
thats how Mercedes get screwed in that instance.
just like with footballers, youre not bigger than the club. the spoilt twerp however thinks he is. hence why he is roundly disliked aside from fan boys like yourself.
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posted on 13/12/21
comment by Say Salah Salah whatever will be (U22757)
posted less than a minute ago
Mercedes played it all correctly as per the rules
The rules were then bent in Maxs favour
They did nothing strategically wrong
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I totally disagree, as many other have.
Despite being on the medium tyres at the start of the race which could have lasted longer, Mercedes decided to match the tyre change that Verstappen did early on, as it meant both cars were on the same tyres, and the Mercedes was clearly faster.
It made perfect sense for Mercedes to continue doing this for the entirety of the race, and it certainly made sense to do it with 20 laps remaining.
It was them, and them alone, that chose to keep Hamilton out at that stage, giving Red Bull and advantage…and it was then a case of Mercedes hoping no late Safety Cars ruined the race for them…..and guess what happened
posted on 13/12/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Say Salah Salah whatever will be (U22757)
posted less than a minute ago
Mercedes played it all correctly as per the rules
The rules were then bent in Maxs favour
They did nothing strategically wrong
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I totally disagree, as many other have.
Despite being on the medium tyres at the start of the race which could have lasted longer, Mercedes decided to match the tyre change that Verstappen did early on, as it meant both cars were on the same tyres, and the Mercedes was clearly faster.
It made perfect sense for Mercedes to continue doing this for the entirety of the race, and it certainly made sense to do it with 20 laps remaining.
It was them, and them alone, that chose to keep Hamilton out at that stage, giving Red Bull and advantage…and it was then a case of Mercedes hoping no late Safety Cars ruined the race for them…..and guess what happened
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This is too much a high risk strategy. More chances of a collision or bringing Perez back into play. They made the right calls at the right time. You cant bank on a safety car with 5 laps to go
This high risk strategy of yours would only make sense if you know there will be a safety car which despite what some believe is not a common occurrence towards the end of a race
posted on 13/12/21
That’s utter tosh
If there was no late safety car, Hamilton would have won the race, but the gap between himself and Verstappen would have been much smaller than the 12s gap there was before the SC as Hamilton’s tyres were 40 laps old and Verstappens were only 20 so he was catching with every lap.
If Hamilton pitted under the VSC, he would have had the same age tyres as Verstappen, and he would have had 20 laps, in a faster car, to get past him again.
In my opinion….giving Red Bull a tyre advantage at the end of the race by keeping Hamilton out, twice, under two safety cars….was a far riskier strategy
posted on 13/12/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted less than a minute ago
That’s utter tosh
If there was no late safety car, Hamilton would have won the race, but the gap between himself and Verstappen would have been much smaller than the 12s gap there was before the SC as Hamilton’s tyres were 40 laps old and Verstappens were only 20 so he was catching with every lap.
If Hamilton pitted under the VSC, he would have had the same age tyres as Verstappen, and he would have had 20 laps, in a faster car, to get past him again.
In my opinion….giving Red Bull a tyre advantage at the end of the race by keeping Hamilton out, twice, under two safety cars….was a far riskier strategy
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You're assuming Verstappen would have pitted if Hamilton did, which is incorrect. They were always going to do the opposite.
And none of that matters, it's about whether the rules were correctly applied. (They weren't.)
posted on 13/12/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
That’s utter tosh
If there was no late safety car, Hamilton would have won the race, but the gap between himself and Verstappen would have been much smaller than the 12s gap there was before the SC as Hamilton’s tyres were 40 laps old and Verstappens were only 20 so he was catching with every lap.
If Hamilton pitted under the VSC, he would have had the same age tyres as Verstappen, and he would have had 20 laps, in a faster car, to get past him again.
In my opinion….giving Red Bull a tyre advantage at the end of the race by keeping Hamilton out, twice, under two safety cars….was a far riskier strategy
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We'll have to agree to disagree
Max potentially being overtaken and losing the wdc could easily have ended in a collision. Take turn one for example when he goes to fast into the corner on the inside and forces Lewis off who was on the outside
Far too risky to ask Lewis to try to overtake him again. Track position was key and i have no doubt if the teams were reversed then RB would have done what Mercedes did and vice versa.
posted on 13/12/21
No….I’m not assuming anything
In lap 37, under the VSC, Red Bull made the call to bring Verstappen in, which put him well behind Hamilton
Mercedes and Hamilton then had a choice to make…….do they follow suit or not
Bono was even on the radio asking Lewis which tyre he would prefer
They chose to stay out on the same tyres, opting for track position with 20 laps to go…it cost them dearly in the end
Masi played his part too yes, of course..,but Mercedes strategic decisions compounded things….massively
posted on 13/12/21
Two massive bits of luck decided the outcome of the race
The safety car
Masi bending the rules
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
Safety car, fair enough what can you do? but the bending of the rules so they "race" one lap was extraordinarily lucky for Verstappen especially given the tyre situation making it an unequal scrap
Masi was originally going to allow the 1 lap race with backmarkers in play to even it up but then Horner convinced him otherwise
All a bit too dodge for my liking
posted on 13/12/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
No….I’m not assuming anything
In lap 37, under the VSC, Red Bull made the call to bring Verstappen in, which put him well behind Hamilton
Mercedes and Hamilton then had a choice to make…….do they follow suit or not
Bono was even on the radio asking Lewis which tyre he would prefer
They chose to stay out on the same tyres, opting for track position with 20 laps to go…it cost them dearly in the end
Masi played his part too yes, of course..,but Mercedes strategic decisions compounded things….massively
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You watched the race and now you're making stuff up. The conversation about which tyres Hamilton would prefer didn't happen under a safety car.
posted on 13/12/21
I don’t disagree with you on that, Masi did make a controversial call, unheard of
But, my argument is simply this….Mercedes could have done things earlier in the race which would have went a long way to reduce Red Bull having such a massive tyre advantage in the latter stages
posted on 13/12/21
comment by Sol (U2745)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
No….I’m not assuming anything
In lap 37, under the VSC, Red Bull made the call to bring Verstappen in, which put him well behind Hamilton
Mercedes and Hamilton then had a choice to make…….do they follow suit or not
Bono was even on the radio asking Lewis which tyre he would prefer
They chose to stay out on the same tyres, opting for track position with 20 laps to go…it cost them dearly in the end
Masi played his part too yes, of course..,but Mercedes strategic decisions compounded things….massively
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You watched the race and now you're making stuff up. The conversation about which tyres Hamilton would prefer didn't happen under a safety car.
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I didn’t say it did…they discussed which tyres would be better if there was a safety car
In the end….they made no change at all
posted on 13/12/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted less than a minute ago
I don’t disagree with you on that, Masi did make a controversial call, unheard of
But, my argument is simply this….Mercedes could have done things earlier in the race which would have went a long way to reduce Red Bull having such a massive tyre advantage in the latter stages
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Fair and square Mercedes win the race, it's as simple as that.
I'll bow out now as I've no time for this bollox. Yer man lost if it was a fair race, take comfort in celebrating a win by design, not ability.
posted on 13/12/21
comment by Say Salah Salah whatever will be (U22757)
posted 37 minutes ago
Mercedes played it all correctly as per the rules
The rules were then bent in Maxs favour
They did nothing strategically wrong
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Mercedes played by the rules fack off. Last weekend, they held up Max under SC to give Ham more time for a pit, which is not allowed, then at the restart Ham slowed down again so Max tires would cool down. At todays race Ham took advantage by going off track and overtake Max. Then under VSC Toto was begging Massi not to deploy SC. Yep, very clean all of that.
posted on 13/12/21
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
---------------------------------
Mercedes feel aggrieved every race. They started moaning about wings back in Spain. They were moaning about Max' tire pressure in Baku. They've been bullying the fack out of Max all season. Silverstone moaning about 10 seconds when Ham put Max in hospital.
You dont talk half shiiit mate
posted on 13/12/21
MARTIN SAMUEL: Verstappen's triumph in Abu Dhabi was a STOLEN title https://mol.im/a/10302393 via https://dailym.ai/android
posted on 13/12/21
comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
---------------------------------
Mercedes feel aggrieved every race. They started moaning about wings back in Spain. They were moaning about Max' tire pressure in Baku. They've been bullying the fack out of Max all season. Silverstone moaning about 10 seconds when Ham put Max in hospital.
You dont talk half shiiit mate
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Both teams most. It has slesys been the way.
posted on 13/12/21
When Hamilton forced Verstappen wide in Bahrain, and Verstappen overtook him off the track. The FIA forced Verstappen to give the place back.
Yet today on the 1st lap, Verstappen forces Hamilton wide. Hamilton overtakes him off the track, and the FIA just allow it?
And then they lie to everyone by saying "Hamilton gave back the advantage he gained" when that blatantly wasn't true.
posted on 13/12/21
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mercedes don't feel aggrieved for nothing
---------------------------------
Mercedes feel aggrieved every race. They started moaning about wings back in Spain. They were moaning about Max' tire pressure in Baku. They've been bullying the fack out of Max all season. Silverstone moaning about 10 seconds when Ham put Max in hospital.
You dont talk half shiiit mate
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Both teams most. It has slesys been the way.
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Better start cleaning that wanck off your keyboard
posted on 13/12/21
comment by Sol (U2745)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted less than a minute ago
I don’t disagree with you on that, Masi did make a controversial call, unheard of
But, my argument is simply this….Mercedes could have done things earlier in the race which would have went a long way to reduce Red Bull having such a massive tyre advantage in the latter stages
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Fair and square Mercedes win the race, it's as simple as that.
I'll bow out now as I've no time for this bollox. Yer man lost if it was a fair race, take comfort in celebrating a win by design, not ability.
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Ability? Fair race...
This is F1 you're talking about, having the best car is the most important thing, not individual ability.
If you want fair competition and ability prevailing, f1 isn't the "sport" for you
posted on 13/12/21
since the modern cars came in, its been too easy for any team and driver to dominate for years.
we had it with Vettel originally then Mercedes pumped in the cash and their car was unstoppable. now RB seem to be back to some level of par.
in F1 saying anyone is the GOAT is pretty hard, these days its basically a different sport. Hamilton proved that in the last race, he started at the back and his car was so quick he just breezed all the way back to relevance.
it didn't require a superstar driver, anyone on that grid could easily have replicated what he did.
was it last year when Hamilton couldn't race bacuse of covid and his back up driver jumped in his car, his config and got 2nd in qualifying, and was challenging for the victory before he got the puncture.
essentially showed that Hamiltons car is a level above 99% of the field so Hamilton only needs to be an above average driver to bring it home first most weeks.
but anyway, funny to watch them cry and nice to see asterisk titles aren't just given out to football teams these days
posted on 13/12/21
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 25 minutes ago
since the modern cars came in, its been too easy for any team and driver to dominate for years.
we had it with Vettel originally then Mercedes pumped in the cash and their car was unstoppable. now RB seem to be back to some level of par.
in F1 saying anyone is the GOAT is pretty hard, these days its basically a different sport. Hamilton proved that in the last race, he started at the back and his car was so quick he just breezed all the way back to relevance.
it didn't require a superstar driver, anyone on that grid could easily have replicated what he did.
was it last year when Hamilton couldn't race bacuse of covid and his back up driver jumped in his car, his config and got 2nd in qualifying, and was challenging for the victory before he got the puncture.
essentially showed that Hamiltons car is a level above 99% of the field so Hamilton only needs to be an above average driver to bring it home first most weeks.
but anyway, funny to watch them cry and nice to see asterisk titles aren't just given out to football teams these days
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Well there is no doubt last season the Mercedes car was dominant, Russell would have had plenty practice in that car and a sample size of one is not significant.
To turn your argument a little, look at Bottas.
posted on 13/12/21
Robert had is one slightly lucky season, but other than that he was dominated by Hamilton.
The list iof teammates is s long Alonso, Button, Rosberg and Bottas. Three of them world champions and all of them for the most part outlived by Hamilton
posted on 13/12/21
bottas is a second driver tho, not really a fair comparison.
but its funny Hamilton feels screwed in Abu Dhabi. he lost all respect in 2016 when he went out of his way to potentially screw his team and teammate trying to back Rosberg up just for his own selfish glory.
karma, as they say.
posted on 13/12/21
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted less than a minute ago
bottas is a second driver tho, not really a fair comparison.
but its funny Hamilton feels screwed in Abu Dhabi. he lost all respect in 2016 when he went out of his way to potentially screw his team and teammate trying to back Rosberg up just for his own selfish glory.
karma, as they say.
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Team was not at risk. Constructors already done. H
World champion working within the rules to stay world champion
posted on 13/12/21
thats not how it works tho.
he races for mercedes. he is not an independent.
his actions could've caused Rosberg to try get out the choke hold and do something crazy which could've resulted in a huge accident between the pair of them, potentially severely hurting one or both of them, potentially jeopardizing their ability to race int he future, and causing millions of damage to their cars.
thats how Mercedes get screwed in that instance.
just like with footballers, youre not bigger than the club. the spoilt twerp however thinks he is. hence why he is roundly disliked aside from fan boys like yourself.
posted on 13/12/21
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