comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
You got lucky with a few last minute winners, then your form started aligning with performances imo.
Conte struggles against these teams as you don't really have the midfielders to take control of games.
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The games we ‘got lucky’ in, we should have been out of sight before that, Watford and Leicester in particular.
Even City away, we should never have got to the stage where we needed Kane’s late goal to win.
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 16 minutes ago
To be honest , Arsenal really can't lose. If they beat lower and / or average teams, usually at home, they are lauded by all and sundry.
If they lose to a half decent team, which they invariably do, they are excused as "still developing"
Must be nice to have that constant free ticket to be allowed to "develop" for, what is it now, about 5 or 6 years.
Oh and just so somebody makes the point ( media sure won't ) they are the only one of the so called "chancing pack" that has not had European footie distractions this season. Yeah, just to set the records straight, whilst Spurs were constantly imploding in the media, Arsenal weren't even good enough to actually qualify for the European slots last season.
Still.....they ARE still developing, right ?
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Yeah we are. We had a lot of overpaid, crap players that took a couple of years to shift. In that time we've freed up a lot of squad spaces and wages, promoted well through the academy, and made some very shrewd signings last summer.
You should probably stop focusing on arsenal so much and worry about how your club is run innit.
Asssenal the gift that keeps on giving
These same vocal Assssenal fans are just making a cameo appearance. Watch them disappear under ground, once Spurs catch up with them and they start to slide down the table quickly!
Asssenal fans are enjoying seasonal adjustment appearance!
Appear in March, and disappear in end of April.
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
You got lucky with a few last minute winners, then your form started aligning with performances imo.
Conte struggles against these teams as you don't really have the midfielders to take control of games.
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The games we ‘got lucky’ in, we should have been out of sight before that, Watford and Leicester in particular.
Even City away, we should never have got to the stage where we needed Kane’s late goal to win.
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And Southampton away, 4 goals disallowed in that game, 1 of which was contentious, and 1 was just an incorrect decision full stop. They have had about 10 years worth of luck against us in the 2 games this season.
We’re well overdue pasting Brighton at their gaff as well
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 16 minutes ago
Asssenal fans are enjoying seasonal adjustment appearance!
Appear in March, and disappear in end of April.
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I thought that usually happens in Jan/Feb, changing the goal post again are we?
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 47 minutes ago
To be honest , Arsenal really can't lose. If they beat lower and / or average teams, usually at home, they are lauded by all and sundry.
If they lose to a half decent team, which they invariably do, they are excused as "still developing"
Must be nice to have that constant free ticket to be allowed to "develop" for, what is it now, about 5 or 6 years.
Oh and just so somebody makes the point ( media sure won't ) they are the only one of the so called "chancing pack" that has not had European footie distractions this season. Yeah, just to set the records straight, whilst Spurs were constantly imploding in the media, Arsenal weren't even good enough to actually qualify for the European slots last season.
Still.....they ARE still developing, right ?
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Not really, it's just not the end of the world if we lose...unlike other supporters. we clearly are still developing though, like Man U, Spurs, West H are too, that is a fact, whether you see it as an excuse, that is on you.
I said a while back that you should really take a look at the goal differences for a good barometer for where teams end up finishing and it's gradually going that way. Arsenal have a far superior GD to us having played the same amount of games. That's a better sign of how well a team are playing than focusing entirely on points. Arsenal are streets ahead of us and they're getting better too. It feels to me like they're at the same stage we were in early 2015. Things are starting to click for them. I'll be amazed if they don't get top four now.
They have the points in the bag which, as we've found out in recent weeks, is a lot better than games in hand.
I think their run in is actually no worse than ours. We have a few nasty ones ourselves, not least this weekend. Aside from the 1-6, when did we ever really get much at Old Trafford? We're losing to bottom table fodder so we've not got a chance if you ask me.
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a while back that you should really take a look at the goal differences for a good barometer for where teams end up finishing and it's gradually going that way. Arsenal have a far superior GD to us having played the same amount of games. That's a better sign of how well a team are playing than focusing entirely on points. Arsenal are streets ahead of us and they're getting better too. It feels to me like they're at the same stage we were in early 2015. Things are starting to click for them. I'll be amazed if they don't get top four now.
They have the points in the bag which, as we've found out in recent weeks, is a lot better than games in hand.
I think their run in is actually no worse than ours. We have a few nasty ones ourselves, not least this weekend. Aside from the 1-6, when did we ever really get much at Old Trafford? We're losing to bottom table fodder so we've not got a chance if you ask me.
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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For the NLD, I'd actually encourage arsenal to give spurs the ball as much as reasonably possible. Sure you might score the odd wondergoal, but as a team I don't think your midfielders will be good enough to supply kane and son as much as they need.
It's your counter attacks that I fear, and Conte is shameless enough to set up that way in your biggest game at home.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a while back that you should really take a look at the goal differences for a good barometer for where teams end up finishing and it's gradually going that way. Arsenal have a far superior GD to us having played the same amount of games. That's a better sign of how well a team are playing than focusing entirely on points. Arsenal are streets ahead of us and they're getting better too. It feels to me like they're at the same stage we were in early 2015. Things are starting to click for them. I'll be amazed if they don't get top four now.
They have the points in the bag which, as we've found out in recent weeks, is a lot better than games in hand.
I think their run in is actually no worse than ours. We have a few nasty ones ourselves, not least this weekend. Aside from the 1-6, when did we ever really get much at Old Trafford? We're losing to bottom table fodder so we've not got a chance if you ask me.
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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what was the possession when we beat them 2-0 last season with those Kane and Son counter goals? I reckon it wasnt far off 70 - 30.
Happy to have a repeat of that tbh. results are all that matters in a NLD
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 23 minutes ago
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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In the big games it's the results that matter.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 second ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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I wouldn't say Arteta has had plenty of time, he's had about 3 transfer windows I think, and it was more about getting rid of deadwood for that time. This is his 1st job, so we kinda have to give him time but Spurs have gone for the top tier managers because they want instant-ish results. And the your chairman has spent a bit of money too in the same time that Arteta has been at Arsenal.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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Conte has only been in charge for around 4 months if that!
When he inherited the side from Nuno, that side that lost to Arsenal, the players were bottom of the league in every stat going. Since Conte took over, the players are some of the most distanced covered players!
That's the diff!
comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 53 minutes ago
For the NLD, I'd actually encourage arsenal to give spurs the ball as much as reasonably possible. Sure you might score the odd wondergoal, but as a team I don't think your midfielders will be good enough to supply kane and son as much as they need.
It's your counter attacks that I fear, and Conte is shameless enough to set up that way in your biggest game at home.
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That’s very noble of you to give us the ball. Problem is we’ll just give it straight back to you
We`ve got no chance of top 4, I can see us struggling to win any of our next 4 games for a start
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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Conte has only been in charge for around 4 months if that!
When he inherited the side from Nuno, that side that lost to Arsenal, the players were bottom of the league in every stat going. Since Conte took over, the players are some of the most distanced covered players!
That's the diff!
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Not according to Steve:
"comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 19 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 10 minutes ago
Leeds are the hardest working team in the league.
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And Spurs are the least hard working team in the league. So, no your league position does not relate to how hard you work one little jot.
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Steve is the most intelligent posters on this site, so I'm happy to trust his opinion over anyone elses.
Give this a rest mate. It’s pretty sad
People keep talking about this one game a week stuff benefiting Arsenal hugely. Regardless of whether that's true or not, no-one, including Arsenal fans, would have had us 4th with 3 games in hand in March at the start of the season. If anyone had suggested this, they'd have been publicly ridiculed.
I know it must burn some of you to give us our flowers, but we do actually have some decent players you know. That's why we're currently in the position we're in.
Saying we're there because we only play 1 game a week is lazy analysis. Otherwise why don't loads of other teams who play 1 game a week compete for 4th?
And no, this does not mean we will get 4th. I've said several times I'm sceptical of our chances. But if we can't be taken seriously as a legitimate top-4 contender now, then we never will.
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 27 minutes ago
People keep talking about this one game a week stuff benefiting Arsenal hugely. Regardless of whether that's true or not, no-one, including Arsenal fans, would have had us 4th with 3 games in hand in March at the start of the season. If anyone had suggested this, they'd have been publicly ridiculed.
I know it must burn some of you to give us our flowers, but we do actually have some decent players you know. That's why we're currently in the position we're in.
Saying we're there because we only play 1 game a week is lazy analysis. Otherwise why don't loads of other teams who play 1 game a week compete for 4th?
And no, this does not mean we will get 4th. I've said several times I'm sceptical of our chances. But if we can't be taken seriously as a legitimate top-4 contender now, then we never will.
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Not everyone is saying that to be fair. Personally I've been saying that Arsenal are a lot better than us Spurs fans and the likes of Gary Neville and Roy Keane are giving them credit for. Your defence is beginning to click, you now have a top class keeper and you've also got a number of bright young talents emerging like Saka, Smith Rowe and Martinelli. Then there's the shrewd signings like Odergaard and another youngster whose name escapes me who's supposed to be huge (think he played in the Forest game).
For me it's about trajectory. You're heading upwards and we're going the other way. Maybe it comes from my desire to see football played the right way where your plan is to win by playing football not waiting for the opposition to make a mistake before pouncing. I hate the counter attacking style we've become accustomed to. Poch had us playing a way that never changed whoever we played. It was about controlling the game. Arteta is doing the same thing. That's how you truly build.
Arsenal are far better than us. Even when we beat you, there's the knowledge that you might have had more possession and more shots on goal. I'm not happy with just the result. I want to see the progress on the pitch, not on the table.
comment by SimonB (U22811)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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Conte has only been in charge for around 4 months if that!
When he inherited the side from Nuno, that side that lost to Arsenal, the players were bottom of the league in every stat going. Since Conte took over, the players are some of the most distanced covered players!
That's the diff!
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Not according to Steve:
"comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 19 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 10 minutes ago
Leeds are the hardest working team in the league.
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And Spurs are the least hard working team in the league. So, no your league position does not relate to how hard you work one little jot.
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Steve is the most intelligent posters on this site, so I'm happy to trust his opinion over anyone elses.
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Why thank you !!
Arsenal are not far better than us, what nonesense.
They're a bit better right now and in reasonable form.
We've stuttered and need to get going again
Sign in if you want to comment
I did have Arsenal down as nailed
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comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
You got lucky with a few last minute winners, then your form started aligning with performances imo.
Conte struggles against these teams as you don't really have the midfielders to take control of games.
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The games we ‘got lucky’ in, we should have been out of sight before that, Watford and Leicester in particular.
Even City away, we should never have got to the stage where we needed Kane’s late goal to win.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 16 minutes ago
To be honest , Arsenal really can't lose. If they beat lower and / or average teams, usually at home, they are lauded by all and sundry.
If they lose to a half decent team, which they invariably do, they are excused as "still developing"
Must be nice to have that constant free ticket to be allowed to "develop" for, what is it now, about 5 or 6 years.
Oh and just so somebody makes the point ( media sure won't ) they are the only one of the so called "chancing pack" that has not had European footie distractions this season. Yeah, just to set the records straight, whilst Spurs were constantly imploding in the media, Arsenal weren't even good enough to actually qualify for the European slots last season.
Still.....they ARE still developing, right ?
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Yeah we are. We had a lot of overpaid, crap players that took a couple of years to shift. In that time we've freed up a lot of squad spaces and wages, promoted well through the academy, and made some very shrewd signings last summer.
You should probably stop focusing on arsenal so much and worry about how your club is run innit.
posted on 7/3/22
Asssenal the gift that keeps on giving
These same vocal Assssenal fans are just making a cameo appearance. Watch them disappear under ground, once Spurs catch up with them and they start to slide down the table quickly!
posted on 7/3/22
Asssenal fans are enjoying seasonal adjustment appearance!
Appear in March, and disappear in end of April.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
You got lucky with a few last minute winners, then your form started aligning with performances imo.
Conte struggles against these teams as you don't really have the midfielders to take control of games.
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The games we ‘got lucky’ in, we should have been out of sight before that, Watford and Leicester in particular.
Even City away, we should never have got to the stage where we needed Kane’s late goal to win.
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And Southampton away, 4 goals disallowed in that game, 1 of which was contentious, and 1 was just an incorrect decision full stop. They have had about 10 years worth of luck against us in the 2 games this season.
We’re well overdue pasting Brighton at their gaff as well
posted on 7/3/22
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 16 minutes ago
Asssenal fans are enjoying seasonal adjustment appearance!
Appear in March, and disappear in end of April.
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I thought that usually happens in Jan/Feb, changing the goal post again are we?
posted on 7/3/22
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 47 minutes ago
To be honest , Arsenal really can't lose. If they beat lower and / or average teams, usually at home, they are lauded by all and sundry.
If they lose to a half decent team, which they invariably do, they are excused as "still developing"
Must be nice to have that constant free ticket to be allowed to "develop" for, what is it now, about 5 or 6 years.
Oh and just so somebody makes the point ( media sure won't ) they are the only one of the so called "chancing pack" that has not had European footie distractions this season. Yeah, just to set the records straight, whilst Spurs were constantly imploding in the media, Arsenal weren't even good enough to actually qualify for the European slots last season.
Still.....they ARE still developing, right ?
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Not really, it's just not the end of the world if we lose...unlike other supporters. we clearly are still developing though, like Man U, Spurs, West H are too, that is a fact, whether you see it as an excuse, that is on you.
posted on 7/3/22
I said a while back that you should really take a look at the goal differences for a good barometer for where teams end up finishing and it's gradually going that way. Arsenal have a far superior GD to us having played the same amount of games. That's a better sign of how well a team are playing than focusing entirely on points. Arsenal are streets ahead of us and they're getting better too. It feels to me like they're at the same stage we were in early 2015. Things are starting to click for them. I'll be amazed if they don't get top four now.
They have the points in the bag which, as we've found out in recent weeks, is a lot better than games in hand.
I think their run in is actually no worse than ours. We have a few nasty ones ourselves, not least this weekend. Aside from the 1-6, when did we ever really get much at Old Trafford? We're losing to bottom table fodder so we've not got a chance if you ask me.
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a while back that you should really take a look at the goal differences for a good barometer for where teams end up finishing and it's gradually going that way. Arsenal have a far superior GD to us having played the same amount of games. That's a better sign of how well a team are playing than focusing entirely on points. Arsenal are streets ahead of us and they're getting better too. It feels to me like they're at the same stage we were in early 2015. Things are starting to click for them. I'll be amazed if they don't get top four now.
They have the points in the bag which, as we've found out in recent weeks, is a lot better than games in hand.
I think their run in is actually no worse than ours. We have a few nasty ones ourselves, not least this weekend. Aside from the 1-6, when did we ever really get much at Old Trafford? We're losing to bottom table fodder so we've not got a chance if you ask me.
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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posted on 7/3/22
For the NLD, I'd actually encourage arsenal to give spurs the ball as much as reasonably possible. Sure you might score the odd wondergoal, but as a team I don't think your midfielders will be good enough to supply kane and son as much as they need.
It's your counter attacks that I fear, and Conte is shameless enough to set up that way in your biggest game at home.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a while back that you should really take a look at the goal differences for a good barometer for where teams end up finishing and it's gradually going that way. Arsenal have a far superior GD to us having played the same amount of games. That's a better sign of how well a team are playing than focusing entirely on points. Arsenal are streets ahead of us and they're getting better too. It feels to me like they're at the same stage we were in early 2015. Things are starting to click for them. I'll be amazed if they don't get top four now.
They have the points in the bag which, as we've found out in recent weeks, is a lot better than games in hand.
I think their run in is actually no worse than ours. We have a few nasty ones ourselves, not least this weekend. Aside from the 1-6, when did we ever really get much at Old Trafford? We're losing to bottom table fodder so we've not got a chance if you ask me.
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
posted on 7/3/22
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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what was the possession when we beat them 2-0 last season with those Kane and Son counter goals? I reckon it wasnt far off 70 - 30.
Happy to have a repeat of that tbh. results are all that matters in a NLD
posted on 7/3/22
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 23 minutes ago
You watch. I reckon the derby game against Arsenal will be sobering for us. We'll realise how far we've regressed when we end up with 30% possession at home against our biggest rivals.
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In the big games it's the results that matter.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 second ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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I wouldn't say Arteta has had plenty of time, he's had about 3 transfer windows I think, and it was more about getting rid of deadwood for that time. This is his 1st job, so we kinda have to give him time but Spurs have gone for the top tier managers because they want instant-ish results. And the your chairman has spent a bit of money too in the same time that Arteta has been at Arsenal.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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Conte has only been in charge for around 4 months if that!
When he inherited the side from Nuno, that side that lost to Arsenal, the players were bottom of the league in every stat going. Since Conte took over, the players are some of the most distanced covered players!
That's the diff!
posted on 7/3/22
comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 53 minutes ago
For the NLD, I'd actually encourage arsenal to give spurs the ball as much as reasonably possible. Sure you might score the odd wondergoal, but as a team I don't think your midfielders will be good enough to supply kane and son as much as they need.
It's your counter attacks that I fear, and Conte is shameless enough to set up that way in your biggest game at home.
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That’s very noble of you to give us the ball. Problem is we’ll just give it straight back to you
posted on 7/3/22
We`ve got no chance of top 4, I can see us struggling to win any of our next 4 games for a start
posted on 7/3/22
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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Conte has only been in charge for around 4 months if that!
When he inherited the side from Nuno, that side that lost to Arsenal, the players were bottom of the league in every stat going. Since Conte took over, the players are some of the most distanced covered players!
That's the diff!
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Not according to Steve:
"comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 19 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 10 minutes ago
Leeds are the hardest working team in the league.
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And Spurs are the least hard working team in the league. So, no your league position does not relate to how hard you work one little jot.
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Steve is the most intelligent posters on this site, so I'm happy to trust his opinion over anyone elses.
posted on 7/3/22
Give this a rest mate. It’s pretty sad
posted on 7/3/22
People keep talking about this one game a week stuff benefiting Arsenal hugely. Regardless of whether that's true or not, no-one, including Arsenal fans, would have had us 4th with 3 games in hand in March at the start of the season. If anyone had suggested this, they'd have been publicly ridiculed.
I know it must burn some of you to give us our flowers, but we do actually have some decent players you know. That's why we're currently in the position we're in.
Saying we're there because we only play 1 game a week is lazy analysis. Otherwise why don't loads of other teams who play 1 game a week compete for 4th?
And no, this does not mean we will get 4th. I've said several times I'm sceptical of our chances. But if we can't be taken seriously as a legitimate top-4 contender now, then we never will.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 27 minutes ago
People keep talking about this one game a week stuff benefiting Arsenal hugely. Regardless of whether that's true or not, no-one, including Arsenal fans, would have had us 4th with 3 games in hand in March at the start of the season. If anyone had suggested this, they'd have been publicly ridiculed.
I know it must burn some of you to give us our flowers, but we do actually have some decent players you know. That's why we're currently in the position we're in.
Saying we're there because we only play 1 game a week is lazy analysis. Otherwise why don't loads of other teams who play 1 game a week compete for 4th?
And no, this does not mean we will get 4th. I've said several times I'm sceptical of our chances. But if we can't be taken seriously as a legitimate top-4 contender now, then we never will.
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Not everyone is saying that to be fair. Personally I've been saying that Arsenal are a lot better than us Spurs fans and the likes of Gary Neville and Roy Keane are giving them credit for. Your defence is beginning to click, you now have a top class keeper and you've also got a number of bright young talents emerging like Saka, Smith Rowe and Martinelli. Then there's the shrewd signings like Odergaard and another youngster whose name escapes me who's supposed to be huge (think he played in the Forest game).
For me it's about trajectory. You're heading upwards and we're going the other way. Maybe it comes from my desire to see football played the right way where your plan is to win by playing football not waiting for the opposition to make a mistake before pouncing. I hate the counter attacking style we've become accustomed to. Poch had us playing a way that never changed whoever we played. It was about controlling the game. Arteta is doing the same thing. That's how you truly build.
Arsenal are far better than us. Even when we beat you, there's the knowledge that you might have had more possession and more shots on goal. I'm not happy with just the result. I want to see the progress on the pitch, not on the table.
posted on 7/3/22
comment by SimonB (U22811)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Slightly misleading in our case as when Conte took over our GD was -7 . Since then Spurs have scored 26 goals and Arsenal 28, and both conceded 16.
Both very evenly matched teams
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If anything Spurs have the 'better" team, they have a WC striker, we have one that is good but doesn't score, WC manager, ours is a newbie, more 'experienced' team than ours, and the same type of money to spend.
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You're just a bit ahead of us on the curve. Conte needs a bit more time and at least one summer window, Arteta has had plenty of time to get his process working and has spent quite a bit too.
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Conte has only been in charge for around 4 months if that!
When he inherited the side from Nuno, that side that lost to Arsenal, the players were bottom of the league in every stat going. Since Conte took over, the players are some of the most distanced covered players!
That's the diff!
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Not according to Steve:
"comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 19 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 10 minutes ago
Leeds are the hardest working team in the league.
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And Spurs are the least hard working team in the league. So, no your league position does not relate to how hard you work one little jot.
"
Steve is the most intelligent posters on this site, so I'm happy to trust his opinion over anyone elses.
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Why thank you !!
posted on 7/3/22
Arsenal are not far better than us, what nonesense.
They're a bit better right now and in reasonable form.
We've stuttered and need to get going again
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