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Lex
Morelos seemed reasonably content for a few months but that'll change now he realises the league's gone
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 4 minutes ago
If you don't offload Morelos on the back of his European exploits in particular you are mad.
I don't think he will sign another contract extension and if no buyer is found he will walk for free, get himself a nice signing on fee and won't be short of suitors if he costs nowt.
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Nonsense. He won't be able to walk anywhere by the times he has spent two months bloating on the beach.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 4 minutes ago
If you don't offload Morelos on the back of his European exploits in particular you are mad.
I don't think he will sign another contract extension and if no buyer is found he will walk for free, get himself a nice signing on fee and won't be short of suitors if he costs nowt.
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if he isnt wanting to sign a new contract then thats the obv outcome.
However, he has a fairly young baby, is settled in Glasgow just now and Rangers are very accommodating towards Alfie in regards to his charity which is one of the most important things to him.
If there are no deals out there that get his attention Id say there is a good chance he will renew
As to the OP, I said at the start of the season the mcgregor and David would have Scott Brown seasons. Both excellent players but finished as first picks at a big club. They should have been bumped them and can't be retained next year.
As for the rest, I still think Aribo might get some interest. There could be a championship or lower premium club interest in Kent.
Barisuc might get some interest if they send out old showreels.
I agree on Kamara....you will easily get 40x your money on him. maybe even 50x at a push.
Punt some of the dross if you can.
You need to buy a top goalie.
Celtic will likely to a Treble next year. Not sure there's much Rangers can do to stop it.
Leaving aside the obvious wums, anybody who's going into the last year of their contract and won't renew should be sold if there's a decent offer. Loan players will leave. Should be quite a few in total. Hopefully some money coming in to add to the squad but obviously recruitment will need to be good.
There will definitely be a clear out. Puts board in a difficult spot as they’ll need to sell to buy.
As much chance of CL football next season for us still as there was this season, but even then if we did carry on our European form that’d be too late for squad.
I’d loan out Wright, he’s got great attributes just incredibly frustrating. Think with a season of regular football he’d worth more to our squad or to sell.
You’ve also missed Arfield whose contract is expiring, good squad player to have but I wouldn’t be disappointed if he left, but with others leaving probably good to keep. Balogun’s contract is also expiring.
Helander also only had a year on his contract, so if he doesn’t extend will need to sell.
So even more leaving than you thought…
We’ll no doubt be shopping for players whose contracts have expired again. Souttar is a good signing, and Doekhi is only other one I’ve heard we’re interested in so far.
Magnum
I'm not 100% convinced about GvB as a manager but feel he should be given at least one big-spending window to bring in his own players. I hope we have the money available to back him, or can raise it through player sales. It's going to be expensive as we'll need a first pick keeper, another centre-back, couple of midfielders, striker, and poss. a genuine right-winger
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Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
If they haven't signed by now then they are definitely planning on leaving for free next year.
Morelos I guess is still annoyed rangers knocked back the Lille offer and might be thinking baws to you am off. Especially as rangers promised to accept any offer over 10m when he renewed his current contract.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 13 seconds ago
Rangers will be a very different looking team next season under GvB or not.
All teams have a shelf life and this is the end of this particular Rangers one.
Look at Celtic now and the players we look to, compared to when we had Gordon/Brown/Boyata/N'tcham/Eddy/Sinclair/Dembele etc.. making up a very successful side.
Only McGregor, Bitton and Forrest are still here from that squad.
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The difference being you had cash to burn and could afford for failures like Ajeti, Barkas, Bolingoli etc
If we feck up our recruitment will be a long few years
Renegade....realise I'd missed a few and my list is not exhaustive. Thought I'd better stop at the 15 I'd already named! Hastie, Katic, Middleton, Sands?? - I could go on but it's starting to get a bit depressing
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comment by Kyo-Joe Furusmashi (U15888)
posted 17 minutes ago
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
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Other clubs aren’t mugs either. They’ll see the perilous financial position rangers are in, potentially exacerbated by a lack of guaranteed CL football, and start proposing paltry amounts knowing it will become increasingly difficult for rangers to knock back cash offers for their players.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kyo-Joe Furusmashi (U15888)
posted 17 minutes ago
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
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Other clubs aren’t mugs either. They’ll see the perilous financial position rangers are in, potentially exacerbated by a lack of guaranteed CL football, and start proposing paltry amounts knowing it will become increasingly difficult for rangers to knock back cash offers for their players.
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Aye all that definitely makes sense….
Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player. And not like we’ve already knocked back similar low bids for likes of Barisic.
Good thing we can just give a few games to another academy player, get them into the Scotland squad then punt them for over 10m.
The prices you might get for any players leaving could be higher or lower than what is thought atm?
Depends on the other teams needs, finances and the player themselves if they want away, it’s a lottery to be fair and guessing is tough
‘ Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player.’
Not according to what I’ve read on here and elsewhere. Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Kamara were all valued higher-much higher.
And I still don’t believe you got or will get anywhere near the figures reported for Patterson.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kyo-Joe Furusmashi (U15888)
posted 17 minutes ago
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
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Other clubs aren’t mugs either. They’ll see the perilous financial position rangers are in, potentially exacerbated by a lack of guaranteed CL football, and start proposing paltry amounts knowing it will become increasingly difficult for rangers to knock back cash offers for their players.
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Aye all that definitely makes sense….
Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player. And not like we’ve already knocked back similar low bids for likes of Barisic.
Good thing we can just give a few games to another academy player, get them into the Scotland squad then punt them for over 10m.
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Well were you not top of the league and odds on to be getting into the champs league when Patterson was sold? Context matters. The outlook now compared to when you sold Patterson has changed.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 41 seconds ago
‘ Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player.’
Not according to what I’ve read on here and elsewhere. Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Kamara were all valued higher-much higher.
And I still don’t believe you got or will get anywhere near the figures reported for Patterson.
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I really dont see the problem in people believing we got around 10m for patterson.
Young player who had played very well in the league, in europe and for scotland.
10m aint unreasonable. I would imagine the add ons will not all be reached, prob a champions league add on in there, domestic cup add ons, international apearances, club appearances
Patterson was a young home grown international who looked like a player. However you will probably get £8m max for him
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
‘ Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player.’
Not according to what I’ve read on here and elsewhere. Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Kamara were all valued higher-much higher.
And I still don’t believe you got or will get anywhere near the figures reported for Patterson.
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Wasn’t being serious. Would expect Morelos and Kent to go for more or same as Patterson. Given their top form in Europe would be surprised if they didn’t leave in summer for exactly that.
Kamara and Aribo not so confident, but would be happy to keep if we can get them both in top form again.
Up to you whether you want to believe credible independent sources or not…
Also what duration of deal was Patterson on when he left? From what I can tell he was signed through to 2024:
https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/nathan-patterson-signs-contract-extension/7FVR870qlGYPMwVT7dX4lh
Different from the situation for many of your players, hence the likely lower fee compared to what you got for Patterson.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
Well were you not top of the league and odds on to be getting into the champs league when Patterson was sold? Context matters. The outlook now compared to when you sold Patterson has changed.
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Players are only worth as much as the buyer is willing to pay. If someone really wants someone what you’re saying isn’t going to impact what that buyer can afford.
In any case if we already got a few mil for Gerrard and 12 for Patterson that should hopefully cover this years losses. So hardly desperate to sell, our need to sell is driven by contracts expiring. Otherwise we’d probably only need to sell one of Morelos/Kent.
Plus Morelos and Kent both 5 years older than Patterson, and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively).
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posted on 6/4/22
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posted on 6/4/22
Lex
Morelos seemed reasonably content for a few months but that'll change now he realises the league's gone
posted on 6/4/22
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 4 minutes ago
If you don't offload Morelos on the back of his European exploits in particular you are mad.
I don't think he will sign another contract extension and if no buyer is found he will walk for free, get himself a nice signing on fee and won't be short of suitors if he costs nowt.
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Nonsense. He won't be able to walk anywhere by the times he has spent two months bloating on the beach.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 4 minutes ago
If you don't offload Morelos on the back of his European exploits in particular you are mad.
I don't think he will sign another contract extension and if no buyer is found he will walk for free, get himself a nice signing on fee and won't be short of suitors if he costs nowt.
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if he isnt wanting to sign a new contract then thats the obv outcome.
However, he has a fairly young baby, is settled in Glasgow just now and Rangers are very accommodating towards Alfie in regards to his charity which is one of the most important things to him.
If there are no deals out there that get his attention Id say there is a good chance he will renew
posted on 6/4/22
As to the OP, I said at the start of the season the mcgregor and David would have Scott Brown seasons. Both excellent players but finished as first picks at a big club. They should have been bumped them and can't be retained next year.
As for the rest, I still think Aribo might get some interest. There could be a championship or lower premium club interest in Kent.
Barisuc might get some interest if they send out old showreels.
I agree on Kamara....you will easily get 40x your money on him. maybe even 50x at a push.
Punt some of the dross if you can.
You need to buy a top goalie.
Celtic will likely to a Treble next year. Not sure there's much Rangers can do to stop it.
posted on 6/4/22
Leaving aside the obvious wums, anybody who's going into the last year of their contract and won't renew should be sold if there's a decent offer. Loan players will leave. Should be quite a few in total. Hopefully some money coming in to add to the squad but obviously recruitment will need to be good.
posted on 6/4/22
There will definitely be a clear out. Puts board in a difficult spot as they’ll need to sell to buy.
As much chance of CL football next season for us still as there was this season, but even then if we did carry on our European form that’d be too late for squad.
I’d loan out Wright, he’s got great attributes just incredibly frustrating. Think with a season of regular football he’d worth more to our squad or to sell.
You’ve also missed Arfield whose contract is expiring, good squad player to have but I wouldn’t be disappointed if he left, but with others leaving probably good to keep. Balogun’s contract is also expiring.
Helander also only had a year on his contract, so if he doesn’t extend will need to sell.
So even more leaving than you thought…
We’ll no doubt be shopping for players whose contracts have expired again. Souttar is a good signing, and Doekhi is only other one I’ve heard we’re interested in so far.
posted on 6/4/22
Magnum
I'm not 100% convinced about GvB as a manager but feel he should be given at least one big-spending window to bring in his own players. I hope we have the money available to back him, or can raise it through player sales. It's going to be expensive as we'll need a first pick keeper, another centre-back, couple of midfielders, striker, and poss. a genuine right-winger
posted on 6/4/22
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posted on 6/4/22
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
posted on 6/4/22
If they haven't signed by now then they are definitely planning on leaving for free next year.
Morelos I guess is still annoyed rangers knocked back the Lille offer and might be thinking baws to you am off. Especially as rangers promised to accept any offer over 10m when he renewed his current contract.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 13 seconds ago
Rangers will be a very different looking team next season under GvB or not.
All teams have a shelf life and this is the end of this particular Rangers one.
Look at Celtic now and the players we look to, compared to when we had Gordon/Brown/Boyata/N'tcham/Eddy/Sinclair/Dembele etc.. making up a very successful side.
Only McGregor, Bitton and Forrest are still here from that squad.
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The difference being you had cash to burn and could afford for failures like Ajeti, Barkas, Bolingoli etc
If we feck up our recruitment will be a long few years
posted on 6/4/22
Renegade....realise I'd missed a few and my list is not exhaustive. Thought I'd better stop at the 15 I'd already named! Hastie, Katic, Middleton, Sands?? - I could go on but it's starting to get a bit depressing
posted on 6/4/22
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posted on 6/4/22
comment by Kyo-Joe Furusmashi (U15888)
posted 17 minutes ago
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
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Other clubs aren’t mugs either. They’ll see the perilous financial position rangers are in, potentially exacerbated by a lack of guaranteed CL football, and start proposing paltry amounts knowing it will become increasingly difficult for rangers to knock back cash offers for their players.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kyo-Joe Furusmashi (U15888)
posted 17 minutes ago
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
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Other clubs aren’t mugs either. They’ll see the perilous financial position rangers are in, potentially exacerbated by a lack of guaranteed CL football, and start proposing paltry amounts knowing it will become increasingly difficult for rangers to knock back cash offers for their players.
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Aye all that definitely makes sense….
Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player. And not like we’ve already knocked back similar low bids for likes of Barisic.
Good thing we can just give a few games to another academy player, get them into the Scotland squad then punt them for over 10m.
posted on 6/4/22
The prices you might get for any players leaving could be higher or lower than what is thought atm?
Depends on the other teams needs, finances and the player themselves if they want away, it’s a lottery to be fair and guessing is tough
posted on 6/4/22
‘ Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player.’
Not according to what I’ve read on here and elsewhere. Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Kamara were all valued higher-much higher.
And I still don’t believe you got or will get anywhere near the figures reported for Patterson.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kyo-Joe Furusmashi (U15888)
posted 17 minutes ago
Realistically how much would a fire sale bring in
McGregor - £0
Tavernier - £4/5m
Bassey - £2/3m
Helander - £1/2m
Goldson - £0
Balogun - £0
Barisic - £2m
Hagi - £6m?
Jack - £1m
Davis - £0
Ramsay - £0
Aribo - £5/6m
Kamara - £2/3m
Wright - £500k
Arfield - £0
Diallo - £0
Itten - £500k?
Kent - £8m
Morelos - £12m
Roofe - £1m
Sakala - £1m
£46m for the whole squad..
Not great..
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Other clubs aren’t mugs either. They’ll see the perilous financial position rangers are in, potentially exacerbated by a lack of guaranteed CL football, and start proposing paltry amounts knowing it will become increasingly difficult for rangers to knock back cash offers for their players.
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Aye all that definitely makes sense….
Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player. And not like we’ve already knocked back similar low bids for likes of Barisic.
Good thing we can just give a few games to another academy player, get them into the Scotland squad then punt them for over 10m.
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Well were you not top of the league and odds on to be getting into the champs league when Patterson was sold? Context matters. The outlook now compared to when you sold Patterson has changed.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 41 seconds ago
‘ Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player.’
Not according to what I’ve read on here and elsewhere. Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Kamara were all valued higher-much higher.
And I still don’t believe you got or will get anywhere near the figures reported for Patterson.
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I really dont see the problem in people believing we got around 10m for patterson.
Young player who had played very well in the league, in europe and for scotland.
10m aint unreasonable. I would imagine the add ons will not all be reached, prob a champions league add on in there, domestic cup add ons, international apearances, club appearances
posted on 6/4/22
Patterson was a young home grown international who looked like a player. However you will probably get £8m max for him
posted on 6/4/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
‘ Our back up rb was easily our most valuable player.’
Not according to what I’ve read on here and elsewhere. Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Kamara were all valued higher-much higher.
And I still don’t believe you got or will get anywhere near the figures reported for Patterson.
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Wasn’t being serious. Would expect Morelos and Kent to go for more or same as Patterson. Given their top form in Europe would be surprised if they didn’t leave in summer for exactly that.
Kamara and Aribo not so confident, but would be happy to keep if we can get them both in top form again.
Up to you whether you want to believe credible independent sources or not…
posted on 6/4/22
Also what duration of deal was Patterson on when he left? From what I can tell he was signed through to 2024:
https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/nathan-patterson-signs-contract-extension/7FVR870qlGYPMwVT7dX4lh
Different from the situation for many of your players, hence the likely lower fee compared to what you got for Patterson.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
Well were you not top of the league and odds on to be getting into the champs league when Patterson was sold? Context matters. The outlook now compared to when you sold Patterson has changed.
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Players are only worth as much as the buyer is willing to pay. If someone really wants someone what you’re saying isn’t going to impact what that buyer can afford.
In any case if we already got a few mil for Gerrard and 12 for Patterson that should hopefully cover this years losses. So hardly desperate to sell, our need to sell is driven by contracts expiring. Otherwise we’d probably only need to sell one of Morelos/Kent.
posted on 6/4/22
Plus Morelos and Kent both 5 years older than Patterson, and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively).
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